Do we owe former Prussians reparations?

[Nova Cyberia]

Gotta say, I never expected this thread to be resurrected in mid-July.

[-Astoria]

Gotta say, I never expected this thread to be resurrected in mid-July.

suddenthreadpopularity.exe is running.

[North German Realm]

Gotta say, I never expected this thread to be resurrected in mid-July.

Me neither. I won't be surprised if we all get mod'd when they finally get around to it.

[Nova Cyberia]

Gotta say, I never expected this thread to be resurrected in mid-July.

Me neither. I won't be surprised if we all get mod'd when they finally get around to it.

It is yet more proof that the glory of Preußen will never die.

[North German Realm]

Me neither. I won't be surprised if we all get mod'd when they finally get around to it.

It is yet more proof that the glory of Preußen will never die.

I'm not sure, but it's actually slowly returned to prominence as a historical entity again in the recent years. Maybe I'm just in an echo chamber, Idk.

[-Astoria]

Gotta say, I never expected this thread to be resurrected in mid-July.

Me neither. I won't be surprised if we all get mod'd when they finally get around to it.

That's tempting fate, that is...

Anyway, back to topic we shall go, yes?

[Nova Cyberia]

It is yet more proof that the glory of Preußen will never die.

I'm not sure, but it's actually slowly returned to prominence as a historical entity again in the recent years. Maybe I'm just in an echo chamber, Idk.

It's become less taboo to talk about.

In the postwar years any sense of Prussianism was thoroughly suppressed.

Which is strange since you could more accurately blame the South Germans for WW2 than the Prussians.

[Bear Stearns]

I'm not sure, but it's actually slowly returned to prominence as a historical entity again in the recent years. Maybe I'm just in an echo chamber, Idk.

It's become less taboo to talk about.

In the postwar years any sense of Prussianism was thoroughly suppressed.

Which is strange since you could more accurately blame the South Germans for WW2 than the Prussians.

This is the soft power of the Catholic Church at work.

[Zordennox]

You may think so, but the ghost of Prussia still wanders around the German Empire Germany and Poland. As long as the AfD exists and Germany isn't a giant Far-Left Refugee Camp, the Prussian spirit will continue to exist. In fact, I consider myself Prussian despite never having descendants from there.

Call me a Prussiaboo, I'll love it.

What a world we live in, where fascists are now just self-identifying as Prussian.

Oswald Spengler speaks of the Prussian spirit. It's not so much a characteristic of fascists as much as it is a characteristic of Europeans.

[Nova Cyberia]

It's become less taboo to talk about.

In the postwar years any sense of Prussianism was thoroughly suppressed.

Which is strange since you could more accurately blame the South Germans for WW2 than the Prussians.

This is the soft power of the Catholic Church at work.

How?

[North German Realm]

I'm not sure, but it's actually slowly returned to prominence as a historical entity again in the recent years. Maybe I'm just in an echo chamber, Idk.

It's become less taboo to talk about.

In the postwar years any sense of Prussianism was thoroughly suppressed.

Which is strange since you could more accurately blame the South Germans for WW2 than the Prussians.

Yeah, but dissolution of Prussia had little to do with "who started WW2" and everything to do with "We need to kill off German fighting spirit". If it was about "who's responsible for ww2", Austria and Bavaria should have been the ones to be punished, and Prussia left almost completely alone.
Prussia was the military powerhouse at that point. Apart from the fact most of its lands were being given to Poland or Russia, it simply needed to go for the new "Germany" to be acceptable to the Allies or the Soviets.

[Nova Cyberia]

It's become less taboo to talk about.

In the postwar years any sense of Prussianism was thoroughly suppressed.

Which is strange since you could more accurately blame the South Germans for WW2 than the Prussians.

Yeah, but dissolution of Prussia had little to do with "who started WW2" and everything to do with "We need to kill off German fighting spirit". If it was about "who's responsible for ww2", Austria and Bavaria should have been the ones to be punished, and Prussia left almost completely alone.
Prussia was the military powerhouse at that point. Apart from the fact most of its lands were being given to Poland or Russia, it simply needed to go for the new "Germany" to be acceptable to the Allies or the Soviets.

Honestly, the fact that Prussia was able to continue being a military powerhouse into the mid-1900s is impressive considering that most of its remaining lands were agricultural and undeveloped. The Rhineland was Germany's industrial heart. Destroying it would have dealt a more serious blow to Germany than destroying Prussia did.

[Bear Stearns]

This is the soft power of the Catholic Church at work.

How?

Who do you think is behind the propaganda that Protestant culture is stodgy, racist, uptight and fascist and Catholic culture is fun, laid back, and nuanced?

[Kvatchdom]

How?

Who do you think is behind the propaganda that Protestant culture is stodgy, racist, uptight and fascist and Catholic culture is fun, laid back, and nuanced?

Protestant culture is very uptight. Just look at the fucking evangelicals

[Geneviev]

How?

Who do you think is behind the propaganda that Protestant culture is stodgy, racist, uptight and fascist and Catholic culture is fun, laid back, and nuanced?

That has nothing to do with what was said.

Who do you think is behind the propaganda that Protestant culture is stodgy, racist, uptight and fascist and Catholic culture is fun, laid back, and nuanced?

Protestant culture is very uptight. Just look at the fucking evangelicals

That's a little insulting. Besides, not all Protestants are evangelical.

[Nova Cyberia]

How?

Who do you think is behind the propaganda that Protestant culture is stodgy, racist, uptight and fascist and Catholic culture is fun, laid back, and nuanced?

Ah, I see.

[Bear Stearns]

Who do you think is behind the propaganda that Protestant culture is stodgy, racist, uptight and fascist and Catholic culture is fun, laid back, and nuanced?

That has nothing to do with what was said.

It was implied, because the Nazis started "coincidentally" in the most Catholic parts of the German-speaking world.

[Bear Stearns]

Who do you think is behind the propaganda that Protestant culture is stodgy, racist, uptight and fascist and Catholic culture is fun, laid back, and nuanced?

Protestant culture is very uptight. Just look at the fucking evangelicals

And Catholic culture is slovenly, superstitious, elitist, and pedophillic.

Two can play this game.

[North German Realm]

How?

Who do you think is behind the propaganda that Protestant culture is stodgy, racist, uptight and fascist and Catholic culture is fun, laid back, and nuanced?

Given almost everything that happened between 300 and 1500 CE. was the Catholics' fault, I don't think anyone unironically thinks Catholic culture is fun, laid back, and nuanced.

[Kvatchdom]

Protestant culture is very uptight. Just look at the fucking evangelicals

And Catholic culture is slovenly, superstitious, elitist, and pedophillic.

Two can play this game.

Not by nature. You can find a lot of heavily believing Catholics who are none of those things, least of all elitist and pedophilic. But I can say that most heavily believing protestants are boring people.

[Kvatchdom]

Who do you think is behind the propaganda that Protestant culture is stodgy, racist, uptight and fascist and Catholic culture is fun, laid back, and nuanced?

Given almost everything that happened between 300 and 1500 CE. was the Catholics' fault, I don't think anyone unironically thinks Catholic culture is fun, laid back, and nuanced.

Hey the Catholics aren't the Vatican. And by culture, compare Catholic to Protestant nations in Europe and the Americas.

[Bear Stearns]

And Catholic culture is slovenly, superstitious, elitist, and pedophillic.

Two can play this game.

Not by nature. You can find a lot of heavily believing Catholics who are none of those things, least of all elitist and pedophilic. But I can say that most heavily believing protestants are boring people.

It was Catholics who kept us in the dark ages.

[Bear Stearns]

Given almost everything that happened between 300 and 1500 CE. was the Catholics' fault, I don't think anyone unironically thinks Catholic culture is fun, laid back, and nuanced.

Hey the Catholics aren't the Vatican. And by culture, compare Catholic to Protestant nations in Europe and the Americas.

The Protestant countries are productive, orderly places and the Catholic ones are lazy, siesta-taking, debt-ridden shitholes with strong penchants for communism.

[Bear Stearns]

Who do you think is behind the propaganda that Protestant culture is stodgy, racist, uptight and fascist and Catholic culture is fun, laid back, and nuanced?

Given almost everything that happened between 300 and 1500 CE. was the Catholics' fault, I don't think anyone unironically thinks Catholic culture is fun, laid back, and nuanced.

Fair. The most brutal oppression in European history was the Catholic inquisitions, force conversions, and crusades.

[Kvatchdom]

Not by nature. You can find a lot of heavily believing Catholics who are none of those things, least of all elitist and pedophilic. But I can say that most heavily believing protestants are boring people.

It was Catholics who kept us in the dark ages.

Nah, it was the war ridden and anti-intellectual culture of Europe at the time, which the Vatican did endorse yes.

Hey the Catholics aren't the Vatican. And by culture, compare Catholic to Protestant nations in Europe and the Americas.

The Protestant countries are productive, orderly places and the Catholic ones are lazy, siesta-taking, debt-ridden shitholes with strong penchants for communism.

The protestant countries are depressed, obedient and silent lambs to their nations. Catholic countries are loud, brazen and ready to take what they want from their governments. What fucking communist penchants lmao Spain was the most anti-communist nation in Europe till 75.