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How should children receive parenting?

Postby Bluelight-R006 » Thu Jun 06, 2019 7:45 pm

Another topic to consider, how should children receive parenting?

Should children be enforced with restrictions and punishments? Should children be taught patiently good values? Or do we let them off in the wild easily with tons of leniency?

Nowadays, children are exposed to pornography and desires of theft. Is it wrong to warn them with threatening punishments, talking it out? Or do we ignore and say, in the end it’s up to them?

I personally think that parents should give children good values, morality patiently. When they do something wrong, resort to listening why they did it, be slow to anger and tell them why it’s wrong. It’s, in my opinion, good to do this early, during the early years of their Elementary schooling (aged 7 to 9) so that they’re prepared for whatever tests may come.

Of course, in the end, it’s whether they want to keep these good values intact or give them all up as they leave their parents.

But I want to hear your views, NSers.

[Also a spin-off of What age should children/teens be given their first phones?]
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Postby Jack Thomas Lang » Thu Jun 06, 2019 7:48 pm

Teach them good virtues, by practice and discussion. Shield them from rampant sexualization and immorality, while explaining that it exists and why it's bad.

I'm not a parent, so my thoughts on bringing up a child are not rules or backed by any practical experience.

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Postby Greater vakolicci haven » Thu Jun 06, 2019 7:48 pm

I've always believed in the free rein approach. Let kids do what they want and experience real world consequences which aren't linked to parents.

Oh, and the mods don't like threads without an opinion in the OP, might be worth adding one.
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Postby Greater vakolicci haven » Thu Jun 06, 2019 7:49 pm

Jack Thomas Lang wrote:Teach them good virtues, by practice and discussion. Shield them from rampant sexualization and immorality, while explaining that it exists and why it's bad.

I'm not a parent, so my thoughts on bringing up a child are not rules or backed by any practical experience.

Define 'sexualisation,' and why it is bad
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Postby Heloin » Thu Jun 06, 2019 7:50 pm

They should be trained to lift heavy objects so I can use them to move my stuff.

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Postby Greater vakolicci haven » Thu Jun 06, 2019 7:51 pm

Heloin wrote:They should be trained to lift heavy objects so I can use them to move my stuff.

Get dogs to pull it, they don't complain and cost less in food.
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Postby Heloin » Thu Jun 06, 2019 7:52 pm

Greater vakolicci haven wrote:
Heloin wrote:They should be trained to lift heavy objects so I can use them to move my stuff.

Get dogs to pull it, they don't complain and cost less in food.

I like dogs though :p

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Postby Bluelight-R006 » Thu Jun 06, 2019 7:53 pm

Greater vakolicci haven wrote:Oh, and the mods don't like threads without an opinion in the OP, might be worth adding one.

Thanks for the reminder. :roll:

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Postby Bluelight-R006 » Thu Jun 06, 2019 7:57 pm

Country of CityTowne wrote:
Bluelight-R006 wrote:Punishing them is unnecessary. Talking them out patiently is. Punishing them would make the child feel more restricted, in my opinion. Plus it’s also quite fierce and the point would be not to teach the child why not to do it but why the child better not do it again or else.

Ah yes, talk to your child and do absolutely nothing to stop the bad behaviour. Don't actually discipline them, just talk. 10/10 modern American parenting skills

Carefully lay down the ground rules and reinstate that every few weeks or so with examples and role models. It won’t cause any harm or bad feelings. Plus, it will make the child motivated to not do the same thing after they think about how nice you treated them. Everyone has a bit of remorse.
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Bluelight-R006 wrote:Nowadays, children are exposed to pornography and desires of theft.

Hardly a recent phenomenon.
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Alvecia wrote:From their parents


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Postby Abarri » Fri Jun 07, 2019 2:36 am

I think it's important for the parents to be a good example to their children. If parents are too controlling of their children, there's probably a lack of trust. Thus, children wouldn't be able make responsible and sensible decisions for their own. If the parents are too neglectful, chances are that the children might be easily influenced by people outside the home, like peers.

As with lots of other things, the key is to strike a balance. Communication, trust, love, and respect can help (just like in all other types of relationships).

If I were a parent, I'd refuse to inflict corporal punishment.

By the way I'm not a parent, so my response might be slightly idealistic.
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Postby Grinning Dragon » Fri Jun 07, 2019 4:58 am

As parents we used.
A balance of punishment and reward for actions and behavior. Corporal punishment is a valid tool to aid in correcting but should only be used as a last resort.
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Postby Rojava Free State » Fri Jun 07, 2019 5:27 am

If I caught my son watching porn, I would sit him down and talk with him about sexuality and inform him about whatever questions he has about it. I wouldn't be mad as much as awkwardly embarassed. Now if he stole something I would be pissed. I would definitely take his stuff from him for a good month, and make him return the stolen goods in person to whoever he took them from. If he faced legal trouble, that's on him. We need to teach children not only to not do bad things, but why they shouldn't do them.

You don't tell susy, DON'T HIT KIDS CAUSE I SAID SO! you tell her that hitting is wrong because everyone has their own body and deserves to feel safe from violence. You ask her how she would feel if someone hit her. You teach your kids to be post conventional moral people and not to just be good cause so and so said so
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Postby Greater vakolicci haven » Fri Jun 07, 2019 5:39 am

Rojava Free State wrote:If I caught my son watching porn, I would sit him down and talk with him about sexuality and inform him about whatever questions he has about it. I wouldn't be mad as much as awkwardly embarassed. Now if he stole something I would be pissed. I would definitely take his stuff from him for a good month, and make him return the stolen goods in person to whoever he took them from. If he faced legal trouble, that's on him. We need to teach children not only to not do bad things, but why they shouldn't do them.

You don't tell susy, DON'T HIT KIDS CAUSE I SAID SO! you tell her that hitting is wrong because everyone has their own body and deserves to feel safe from violence. You ask her how she would feel if someone hit her. You teach your kids to be post conventional moral people and not to just be good cause so and so said so

The important thing is though, even if you absolutely disagree with what your kid did, if it's family you always defend them. They must be innocent, the other party is lying, they would never do this because XYZ.
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Postby Brightlake » Fri Jun 07, 2019 5:45 am

My parents give me lot of room and independence growing up. I choose what to do, wear, eat, which school, college, career path to go, basically everything since very little. There are no rules set in my home, no curfew, and I bring my own set of key since 5th grade elementary. I am raised by given the understanding of what is right and what is wrong, everything have consequences, & proper way of communication.

I thought may be if someday I would have a kid, I will give him/her much freedom they needed to grow. We could provide guidance but afterall they are is an individual person themself. May be I will not too lax as my parents did because this method not suitable for everyone but we couldn't too attached with them.

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Postby Brightlake » Fri Jun 07, 2019 5:47 am

Heloin wrote:They should be trained to lift heavy objects so I can use them to move my stuff.


nice one :)

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Postby Greater vakolicci haven » Fri Jun 07, 2019 5:51 am

Brightlake wrote:My parents give me lot of room and independence growing up. I choose what to do, wear, eat, which school, college, career path to go, basically everything since very little. There are no rules set in my home, no curfew, and I bring my own set of key since 5th grade elementary. I am raised by given the understanding of what is right and what is wrong, everything have consequences, & proper way of communication.

I thought may be if someday I would have a kid, I will give him/her much freedom they needed to grow. We could provide guidance but afterall they are is an individual person themself. May be I will not too lax as my parents did because this method not suitable for everyone but we couldn't too attached with them.

This, really.

When I was 11 and starting secondary school, I picked a school they didn't like; it was a very bad decision, it went shit, my grades fell through the floor.
It was my decision, not theres, that I wanted to go to boarding school when I noticed how badly I was doing though.
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Greater vakolicci haven wrote:
Brightlake wrote:My parents give me lot of room and independence growing up. I choose what to do, wear, eat, which school, college, career path to go, basically everything since very little. There are no rules set in my home, no curfew, and I bring my own set of key since 5th grade elementary. I am raised by given the understanding of what is right and what is wrong, everything have consequences, & proper way of communication.

I thought may be if someday I would have a kid, I will give him/her much freedom they needed to grow. We could provide guidance but afterall they are is an individual person themself. May be I will not too lax as my parents did because this method not suitable for everyone but we couldn't too attached with them.

This, really.

When I was 11 and starting secondary school, I picked a school they didn't like; it was a very bad decision, it went shit, my grades fell through the floor.
It was my decision, not theres, that I wanted to go to boarding school when I noticed how badly I was doing though.


I am felt it, when I went to college, I admitted by a top 6 universities in my nation but instead I choose a recently established private uni because of scholarship and their idea about research based learning. During my study the uni is nearly collapse because their inability to manage that numbers of research center, researcher, & other expenses. Luckily I did finished my study.

But afterall that is life, sometimes you make a right choice when other time is not. but everything has something to learn and make you wiser.

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Postby Bluelight-R006 » Fri Jun 07, 2019 7:14 am

Risottia wrote:
Bluelight-R006 wrote:Nowadays, children are exposed to pornography and desires of theft.

Hardly a recent phenomenon.

Oh. I thought it was only when smartphones made access to [visual] porn easier.
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Postby Heloin » Fri Jun 07, 2019 7:54 am

Bluelight-R006 wrote:
Risottia wrote:Hardly a recent phenomenon.

Oh. I thought it was only when smartphones made access to [visual] porn easier.

When my uncle was 15 he and my dad was 12 they would drive across the border to Botswana to a service station that would sell them adult magazines. Kids and teens will go through the effort to get this kind of stuff no matter the barrier.
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How should children receive parenting?
In a laissez-faire manner that prepares them for the real world. For example, giving them chores for allowance and extra allowance for helping more could be an analog of work in adult life.
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