YouTube drops mask, Mass Demonetizes right wing content

[Alvecia]

Yknow. The troops get shot at. Then again, they can Shoot back.

Maybe community managers should be able to shoot back?

Typically, that only makes it worse.

“Don’t you guys have phones?”

[Liriena]

Sometimes the worst job is the only job. See: cable company community managers. Those people are braver than the troops o7

Yknow. The troops get shot at. Then again, they can Shoot back.

Maybe community managers should be able to shoot back?

I know someone who works the social media and phones for one of our electricity companies and he's found ways to do precisely that... metaphorically, of course. But their bosses eventually drew the line at relentless sarcasm.

[Washington Resistance Army]

A bunch were seemingly deleted just in the past day or two so three strikes seems doubtful.

One I know for sure that got axed out of the blue was FascistBallIV. While you can disagree with the politics and whatnot it was literally just a music channel that posted songs by far right or third position groups. They also got yeet'd off Facebook and Twitter.

Probably the music did it. Copyright most likely.

Most all of it was uncopyrighted stuff from the 1900's afaik, marching songs or anthems and whatnot. Bit odd that the channel would exist for years with no issues only to suddenly vanish when YouTube decides to yeet everything.

[Liriena]

Yknow. The troops get shot at. Then again, they can Shoot back.

Maybe community managers should be able to shoot back?

Typically, that only makes it worse.

1 like = 1 less bullet going straight into your kneecap

[Liriena]

Probably the music did it. Copyright most likely.

Most all of it was uncopyrighted stuff from the 1900's afaik, marching songs or anthems and whatnot. Bit odd that the channel would exist for years with no issues only to suddenly vanish when YouTube decides to yeet everything.

It's pretty much those kinds of websites' MO whenever there's any sort of rule-breaking controversy. And that's one thing I'd criticize about Maza's choice to try to appeal directly to Youtube: he should have known by then that, if Youtube did take decisive action, it would do so in the most kneejerk, scattershot and idiotic way possible.

Same happens with Twitter and Facebook: someone in the media or politics makes up a fuzz, and suddenly posting any meme with a gun on it gets you suspended.

[Alvecia]

Probably the music did it. Copyright most likely.

Most all of it was uncopyrighted stuff from the 1900's afaik, marching songs or anthems and whatnot. Bit odd that the channel would exist for years with no issues only to suddenly vanish when YouTube decides to yeet everything.

I don’t find it so. This kind of stuff happens all the time. It wouldn’t surprise me if some copyright bot was trundling down a list. Typically the claimers detailed are provided to the claimed. Has the channel given any details on that?

[Shrillland]

Who knows? Youtube doesn't publish that, but I know that Pool has has to self censor to avoid it.

So it's not YouTube doing the censorship then.

Vass, you're asking us to do something that can only be answered with anecdotal evidence, which, no matter how true, can't be considered data. But I can tell you that a lot of pages devoted to things like national anthems and historical propaganda films(I'm a history nut) have seen a good chunk of their videos removed even if they themselves are still standing.

[Galloism]

Yknow. The troops get shot at. Then again, they can Shoot back.

Maybe community managers should be able to shoot back?

I know someone who works the social media and phones for one of our electricity companies and he's found ways to do precisely that... metaphorically, of course. But their bosses eventually drew the line at relentless sarcasm.

Tbh, our company has social media managers, and when we have things I just let them deal with it. They seem pretty good at putting out fires.

Sometimes we have people that want to help from our part, and I just tell them...

[Washington Resistance Army]

I actually found a list on Twitter of accounts that have reported in some way being impacted by this.

Banned:

YouKipper
The Great Order
ThuleanPerspective
CulturedThug
Xurious
Mr Allsop History
Patrick Slattery
FascistBallIV

Demonetized:

Martin Sellner
James Allsup
Steven Crowder
Red Ice TV
SinatraSays
Jesse Lee Peterson
Iconoclast
Tailed Feature
Ford Fischer
Dan Dicks
Revenge Of The Cis
Sandman
The Red Elephants
Know More News
Andy Warski
Deep Fat Fried Podcast

And a whole bunch more reported random videos being deleted. It's my understanding YouTube has started to walk back some of these due to extreme backlash but still. All this over one reporter saying he was being harassed by people from one channel. Shit like this is why nobody likes YouTube.

Most all of it was uncopyrighted stuff from the 1900's afaik, marching songs or anthems and whatnot. Bit odd that the channel would exist for years with no issues only to suddenly vanish when YouTube decides to yeet everything.

I don’t find it so. This kind of stuff happens all the time. It wouldn’t surprise me if some copyright bot was trundling down a list. Typically the claimers detailed are provided to the claimed. Has the channel given any details on that?

That's the thing, if I wanted to find out I couldn't. They were unpersoned on social media. No more Twitter, no more Facebook, no more YouTube account. Maybe there's a Gab or something but I don't use that so hell if I know.

[Liriena]

Demonetized:

[...]
James Allsup
Steven Crowder

Even if we agree that Youtube is predictably mucking things up even harder than when they just ignored their own terms and conditions... can I have permission to enjoy some schadenfreude for these two?

[Xmara]

If by right wing, you mean the channels that advocate for genocide/ethnic cleansing, glorify Nazi Germany, and otherwise promote hateful content, then I’m fine with that. Private companies should not tolerate blatant hate speech.

If by right wing, you were to mean channels where someone might say “I like Donald Trump,” or “I hate the Democratic Party,” but is otherwise not espousing hateful views or advocating for someone’s death, then I would have a problem with it.

But it seems like YouTube is just cracking down on enforcing its terms of service, and if the Nazis and white supremacists have a problem with it, then they can leave YouTube for all I care. Might actually make YouTube a slightly less toxic community if they left.

[Liriena]

I know someone who works the social media and phones for one of our electricity companies and he's found ways to do precisely that... metaphorically, of course. But their bosses eventually drew the line at relentless sarcasm.

Tbh, our company has social media managers, and when we have things I just let them deal with it. They seem pretty good at putting out fires.

Sometimes we have people that want to help from our part, and I just tell them...

Further proof that the prequels are vastly underrated Marxist masterpieces.

[The Emerald Legion]

Demonetized:

[...]
James Allsup
Steven Crowder

Even if we agree that Youtube is predictably mucking things up even harder than when they just ignored their own terms and conditions... can I have permission to enjoy some schadenfreude for these two?

No idea who the first is. But Crowder has his Mug Cartel to earn money from and blatantly admits to have written off ad revenue a long time ago.

[Alvecia]

I don’t find it so. This kind of stuff happens all the time. It wouldn’t surprise me if some copyright bot was trundling down a list. Typically the claimers detailed are provided to the claimed. Has the channel given any details on that?

That's the thing, if I wanted to find out I couldn't. They were unpersoned on social media. No more Twitter, no more Facebook, no more YouTube account. Maybe there's a Gab or something but I don't use that so hell if I know.

And this happened all in short order huh?
Forgive me if I’m skeptical that a channel that only contained old music managed to get removed from every notable social media site for literally just that.
Honestly, there more info you give the more it just sounds like they shut themselves down.

Edit: lol

[Alvecia]

If by right wing, you mean the channels that advocate for genocide/ethnic cleansing, glorify Nazi Germany, and otherwise promote hateful content, then I’m fine with that. Private companies should not tolerate blatant hate speech.

If by right wing, you were to mean channels where someone might say “I like Donald Trump,” or “I hate the Democratic Party,” but is otherwise not espousing hateful views or advocating for someone’s death, then I would have a problem with it.

But it seems like YouTube is just cracking down on enforcing its terms of service, and if the Nazis and white supremacists have a problem with it, then they can leave YouTube for all I care. Might actually make YouTube a slightly less toxic community if they left.

Personally I suspect that the issue isn’t limited, or even particularly weighted, towards right wing channels. It’s just that said channels are in such an echo chamber that they can’t see beyond themselves to notice that it isn’t just targeted at them.
But that’s just my opinion.

[The Emerald Legion]

That's the thing, if I wanted to find out I couldn't. They were unpersoned on social media. No more Twitter, no more Facebook, no more YouTube account. Maybe there's a Gab or something but I don't use that so hell if I know.

And this happened all in short order huh?
Forgive me if I’m skeptical that a channel that only contained old music managed to get removed from every notable social media site for literally just that.
Honestly, there more info you give the more it just sounds like they shit themselves down.

That sort of thing has been happening pretty frequently of late. Because they get banned from one, go rally support on another and suddenly the company is in hot water and has to rescind the ban.

So they just collaborate and do it all at once.

[Liriena]

Even if we agree that Youtube is predictably mucking things up even harder than when they just ignored their own terms and conditions... can I have permission to enjoy some schadenfreude for these two?

No idea who the first is.

He's a neo-nazi who participated in the Unite The Right rally in Charlottesville. He'd tell you that he was just there as a journalist and doesn't care for any of the neo-nazi stuff and its symbols... but then he's also a member of Identity Evropa.

[Aclion]

And a whole bunch more reported random videos being deleted. It's my understanding YouTube has started to walk back some of these due to extreme backlash but still. All this over one reporter saying he was being harassed by people from one channel.

Context is important. All because one reporter, at a company laying off people because they can't compete with youtubers claimed he was being harassed and called on youtube to deplatform his companies competitors.

[Alvecia]

And this happened all in short order huh?
Forgive me if I’m skeptical that a channel that only contained old music managed to get removed from every notable social media site for literally just that.
Honestly, there more info you give the more it just sounds like they shit themselves down.

That sort of thing has been happening pretty frequently of late. Because they get banned from one, go rally support on another and suddenly the company is in hot water and has to rescind the ban.

So they just collaborate and do it all at once.

That doesn’t sound any more effective than doing it one by one

[Xmara]

If by right wing, you mean the channels that advocate for genocide/ethnic cleansing, glorify Nazi Germany, and otherwise promote hateful content, then I’m fine with that. Private companies should not tolerate blatant hate speech.

If by right wing, you were to mean channels where someone might say “I like Donald Trump,” or “I hate the Democratic Party,” but is otherwise not espousing hateful views or advocating for someone’s death, then I would have a problem with it.

But it seems like YouTube is just cracking down on enforcing its terms of service, and if the Nazis and white supremacists have a problem with it, then they can leave YouTube for all I care. Might actually make YouTube a slightly less toxic community if they left.

Personally I suspect that the issue isn’t limited, or even particularly weighted, towards right wing channels. It’s just that said channels are in such an echo chamber that they can’t see beyond themselves to notice that it isn’t just targeted at them.
But that’s just my opinion.

Yeah, you’re right. As someone else mentioned, a bunch of left wing and LGBT channels were demonetized as well for violating the ToS.

[Liriena]

And a whole bunch more reported random videos being deleted. It's my understanding YouTube has started to walk back some of these due to extreme backlash but still. All this over one reporter saying he was being harassed by people from one channel.

Context is important. All because one reporter, at a company laying off people because they can't compete with youtubers claimed he was being harassed and called on youtube to deplatform his companies competitors.

I'm pretty sure Vox and Crowder don't share the same target audience, so calling them "competitors" is a bit much.

[Alvecia]

Personally I suspect that the issue isn’t limited, or even particularly weighted, towards right wing channels. It’s just that said channels are in such an echo chamber that they can’t see beyond themselves to notice that it isn’t just targeted at them.
But that’s just my opinion.

Yeah, you’re right. As someone else mentioned, a bunch of left wing and LGBT channels were demonetized as well for violating the ToS.

And as others have noted, it’s not just political shit that gets demonetised for stupid reasons.

[Galloism]

Context is important. All because one reporter, at a company laying off people because they can't compete with youtubers claimed he was being harassed and called on youtube to deplatform his companies competitors.

I'm pretty sure Vox and Crowder don't share the same target audience, so calling them "competitors" is a bit much.

This is a valid point, but do THEY know that?

[Washington Resistance Army]

That's the thing, if I wanted to find out I couldn't. They were unpersoned on social media. No more Twitter, no more Facebook, no more YouTube account. Maybe there's a Gab or something but I don't use that so hell if I know.

And this happened all in short order huh?
Forgive me if I’m skeptical that a channel that only contained old music managed to get removed from every notable social media site for literally just that.
Honestly, there more info you give the more it just sounds like they shut themselves down.

Edit: lol

I don't know when the Twitter or Facebook account got yeet'd, might have been recent or it might have been in the past.

I get you're a Brit so you might not be super in tune with our social media companies but their milquetoast neolib bias isn't exactly a secret. All three platforms go out of their way to routinely fuck with both the left and the right.

[The Emerald Legion]

Context is important. All because one reporter, at a company laying off people because they can't compete with youtubers claimed he was being harassed and called on youtube to deplatform his companies competitors.

I'm pretty sure Vox and Crowder don't share the same target audience, so calling them "competitors" is a bit much.

Of course they do. They each want everyone to agree with them. They just disagree with each other over what should be agreed upon.