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Postby Tarsonis » Tue Jun 25, 2019 7:52 am

Ifreann wrote:
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To be fair, there’s a big difference between a subreddit banning dissent, and an entire platform picking a political side. If reddit, in its entirety cracks down on Democrat supporting posts, then you would have a better point there.

"an entire platform"
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No I agree. That’s dumb as well. But I wasn’t talking about that, Vass said nobody complains that nobody says anything when Dem’s get banned. So I asked where it was happening and Gauth came back with one as equally ridiculous as the knitting circle.
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Postby Tarsonis » Tue Jun 25, 2019 7:52 am

Gormwood wrote:
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To be fair, there’s a big difference between a subreddit banning dissent, and an entire platform picking a political side. If reddit, in its entirety cracks down on Democrat supporting posts, then you would have a better point there.

If it was Facebook or Twitter banning Trump support as opposed to a knitting website the average internetter has no idea exists you would have a better point. In the scale of things it's not much more significant than a subreddit past having its own domain.


Sure but I wasn’t talking about the knitting circle
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Postby Vassenor » Tue Jun 25, 2019 10:11 am

Obama wears a tan suit.
Republicans: That’s outrageous.

LGBTQ couple shops for wedding cake.
Republicans: That’s offensive.

NFL players kneel to protest injustice.
Republicans: That’s disrespectful.

Trump obstructs justice & rapes women.
Republicans: That’s our president!
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Postby Northern Davincia » Tue Jun 25, 2019 10:29 am

Vassenor wrote:
Obama wears a tan suit.
Republicans: That’s outrageous.

LGBTQ couple shops for wedding cake.
Republicans: That’s offensive.

NFL players kneel to protest injustice.
Republicans: That’s disrespectful.

Trump obstructs justice & rapes women.
Republicans: That’s our president!

>assuming he actually did those things
Obstruction of justice, maybe.
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Postby Gormwood » Tue Jun 25, 2019 10:32 am

Northern Davincia wrote:
Vassenor wrote:

>assuming he actually did those things
Obstruction of justice, maybe.

The Mueller Report is a Democratic hit piece obviously.
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Postby Northern Davincia » Tue Jun 25, 2019 10:34 am

Gormwood wrote:
Northern Davincia wrote:>assuming he actually did those things
Obstruction of justice, maybe.

The Mueller Report is a Democratic hit piece obviously.

Yes, the same report that found the evidence to be insufficient.
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Postby Gormwood » Tue Jun 25, 2019 10:36 am

Northern Davincia wrote:
Gormwood wrote:The Mueller Report is a Democratic hit piece obviously.

Yes, the same report that found the evidence to be insufficient.

For collusion sure, but plenty there for obstruction of justice.
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Postby Vassenor » Tue Jun 25, 2019 10:48 am

Northern Davincia wrote:
Gormwood wrote:The Mueller Report is a Democratic hit piece obviously.

Yes, the same report that found the evidence to be insufficient.


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Postby Telconi » Tue Jun 25, 2019 10:53 am

Vassenor wrote:
Northern Davincia wrote:Yes, the same report that found the evidence to be insufficient.


#doesnotexonerate


Oh, do you give a rat's ass about actual accountability now and not just attacking people because you dislike them. My daughter also likes to play pretend.
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Postby Bear Stearns » Tue Jun 25, 2019 10:58 am

Vassenor wrote:Also funny how no one ever has the vapours like this when it's pro-Democrat speech being banned. :roll:


Which tech conglomerates are banning Democrats?
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Postby Vassenor » Tue Jun 25, 2019 11:04 am

Bear Stearns wrote:
Vassenor wrote:Also funny how no one ever has the vapours like this when it's pro-Democrat speech being banned. :roll:


Which tech conglomerates are banning Democrats?


Which tech conglomerates run this knitting website?
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Postby Gormwood » Tue Jun 25, 2019 11:05 am

Vassenor wrote:
Bear Stearns wrote:
Which tech conglomerates are banning Democrats?


Which tech conglomerates run this knitting website?

Knitter and Lacebook. *nod*
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Postby Northern Davincia » Tue Jun 25, 2019 11:16 am

Vassenor wrote:
Northern Davincia wrote:Yes, the same report that found the evidence to be insufficient.


#doesnotexonerate

Which also does not condemn.
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Postby Dumb Ideologies » Tue Jun 25, 2019 11:18 am

Gormwood wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
Which tech conglomerates run this knitting website?

Knitter and Lacebook. *nod*


Thanks for those purls of wisdom.
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Postby Valrifell » Tue Jun 25, 2019 11:19 am

Northern Davincia wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
#doesnotexonerate

Which also does not condemn.


Because he believed Congress should do it, while at the same time making it painfully clear that the argument can be made but that Mueller himself feels he isn't qualified to state it outright.
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Postby Gormwood » Tue Jun 25, 2019 11:20 am

Northern Davincia wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
#doesnotexonerate

Which also does not condemn.

"He wasn't condemned by the report which says he isn't exonerated, therefore he did nothing wrong and is in the clear."

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Postby Zurkerx » Tue Jun 25, 2019 11:28 am

Valrifell wrote:
Northern Davincia wrote:Which also does not condemn.


Because he believed Congress should do it, while at the same time making it painfully clear that the argument can be made but that Mueller himself feels he isn't qualified to state it outright.


I think as someone put it: His integrity is his strength but his rigidness is his weakness.

The investigation he ran wasn't political at all; he kept it clean. But considering over 700+ (I think it's around 900 now) prosecutors would have charged Trump with Obstruction of Justice, I'm more incline to believe he committed a crime, although it seems America doesn't care enough.
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Postby Telconi » Tue Jun 25, 2019 11:30 am

Zurkerx wrote:
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Because he believed Congress should do it, while at the same time making it painfully clear that the argument can be made but that Mueller himself feels he isn't qualified to state it outright.


I think as someone put it: His integrity is his strength but his rigidness is his weakness.

The investigation he ran wasn't political at all; he kept it clean. But considering over 700+ (I think it's around 900 now) prosecutors would have charged Trump with Obstruction of Justice, I'm more incline to believe he committed a crime, although it seems America doesn't care enough.


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Postby Vassenor » Tue Jun 25, 2019 11:35 am

Telconi wrote:
Zurkerx wrote:
I think as someone put it: His integrity is his strength but his rigidness is his weakness.

The investigation he ran wasn't political at all; he kept it clean. But considering over 700+ (I think it's around 900 now) prosecutors would have charged Trump with Obstruction of Justice, I'm more incline to believe he committed a crime, although it seems America doesn't care enough.


Politics are a helluva drug.


So you have evidence of political motivation?
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Postby Vassenor » Tue Jun 25, 2019 11:37 am

Also I guess we have to deflect attention away from the ruling that the Emoluments Clause lawsuit can proceed after all somehow.
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Postby Gormwood » Tue Jun 25, 2019 11:37 am

Vassenor wrote:
Telconi wrote:
Politics are a helluva drug.


So you have evidence of political motivation?

The 700+ prosecutors are all Democrats obviously. And of course he has no evidence, he's just being a partisan contrarian as usual.
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Postby Telconi » Tue Jun 25, 2019 11:39 am

Vassenor wrote:
Telconi wrote:
Politics are a helluva drug.


So you have evidence of political motivation?


You really think that everyone is looking objectively at rather Donald Trump tried to obstruct the investigation?
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Postby Telconi » Tue Jun 25, 2019 11:39 am

Gormwood wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
So you have evidence of political motivation?

The 700+ prosecutors are all Democrats obviously. And of course he has no evidence, he's just being a partisan contrarian as usual.


Possessing common sense does not a partisan contrarian make.
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Postby Proctopeo » Tue Jun 25, 2019 11:40 am

In other news, E. Jean Carroll says rape is "sexy". On CNN, no less.
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No she didn't. Why must you lie so?
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