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The South Falls wrote:

Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States wrote:It is possible to think he is doing a good job, but also that he has committed crimes that he should be punished for. The grounds for impeachment, after all, are not "he is doing badly". It's "he committed high crimes or misdemeanours"

True, that is. Though doing your job properly is intertwined with not committing such high crimes and misdemeanors.

Well, in our mind, certainly. However, there are people with less respect for the ideals of a liberal democracy like the US, who see 'following the law' as not a prerequisite for being a good leader.

Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States wrote:

The South Falls wrote:True, that is. Though doing your job properly is intertwined with not committing such high crimes and misdemeanors.

Well, in our mind, certainly. However, there are people with less respect for the ideals of a liberal democracy like the US, who see 'following the law' as not a prerequisite for being a good leader.

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Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States wrote:

The South Falls wrote:True, that is. Though doing your job properly is intertwined with not committing such high crimes and misdemeanors.

Well, in our mind, certainly. However, there are people with less respect for the ideals of a liberal democracy like the US, who see 'following the law' as not a prerequisite for being a good leader.

I think that's most people.

Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States wrote:

The South Falls wrote:True, that is. Though doing your job properly is intertwined with not committing such high crimes and misdemeanors.

Well, in our mind, certainly. However, there are people with less respect for the ideals of a liberal democracy like the US, who see 'following the law' as not a prerequisite for being a good leader.

Most people don't give about that. They just want a clean-cut person with a pretty face who's charismatic enough for them to relate to.

If JFK was bald and fat, no one would've given a shit about him.

Bear Stearns wrote:

Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States wrote:Well, in our mind, certainly. However, there are people with less respect for the ideals of a liberal democracy like the US, who see 'following the law' as not a prerequisite for being a good leader.

Most people don't give about that. They just want a clean-cut person with a pretty face who's charismatic enough for them to relate to.

If JFK was bald and fat, no one would've given a shit about him.

Martin Van Buren was none of those things.

Kowani wrote:

Bear Stearns wrote:
Most people don't give about that. They just want a clean-cut person with a pretty face who's charismatic enough for them to relate to.

If JFK was bald and fat, no one would've given a shit about him.

Martin Van Buren was none of those things.

He wasn't very tall, though. Neither was James Madison, who never weighed more a hundred pounds.

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:Trump's approval rating still sucks. Still lower than Obama's.

Even Nixon had higher approval than him. Sad!

But Obama having more approval than him is sure to set Donnie off, assuming his bootlickers aren't hiding it from him.

Farnhamia wrote:

Kowani wrote:Martin Van Buren was none of those things.

He wasn't very tall, though. Neither was James Madison, who never weighed more a hundred pounds.

You don't like the fighting pygmy?

The South Falls wrote:

Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States wrote:Well, in our mind, certainly. However, there are people with less respect for the ideals of a liberal democracy like the US, who see 'following the law' as not a prerequisite for being a good leader.

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Mr. Putin, you should let you representative handle such matters. The President is working towards your cause.

The Black Forrest wrote:

The South Falls wrote:[Comment censored by the Russian Federation]

Mr. Putin, you should let you representative handle such matters. The President is working towards your cause.

"I am the President!" scowls Putin. "10 years in gulag."

Wallenburg wrote:

The Black Forrest wrote:
Mr. Putin, you should let you representative handle such matters. The President is working towards your cause.

"I am the President!" scowls Putin. "10 years in gulag."

HEY*pistol whipped and dragged off*

Saw the comments of Trumps mother being a Scot. My wife mentioned, have you ever noticed a picture of her? I did a minor look of photos and see Fred prominently display. Mary is missing.

Political had an article on this:

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story ... and-215779

The Black Forrest wrote:Saw the comments of Trumps mother being a Scot. My wife mentioned, have you ever noticed a picture of her? I did a minor look of photos and see Fred prominently display. Mary is missing.

Political had an article on this:

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story ... and-215779

There's a picture in the Wiki article on her: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Anne_MacLeod_Trump

Anyone betting on him saying something stupid about the rest of the royal family if he returns to Washington? The fact of his motorcade having so few people congregating to see him must grate at him.

Trumpisslavia wrote:Anyone betting on him saying something stupid about the rest of the royal family if he returns to Washington? The fact of his motorcade having so few people congregating to see him must grate at him.

A bet involves uncertainty.

So, they're thinking of cutting the interest rates due to the trade wars and other economic woes.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/trade-risk ... 1559640601

Yeah, by 2021 or 2022, we'll be in a recession. Earliest is 2020 though, but all of this is my opinion based on what I see, and what my dad as a banker is telling me.

Zurkerx wrote:So, they're thinking of cutting the interest rates due to the trade wars and other economic woes.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/trade-risk ... 1559640601

Yeah, by 2021 or 2022, we'll be in a recession. Earliest is 2020 though, but all of this is my opinion based on what I see, and what my dad as a banker is telling me.

Thanks, Obama!

Zurkerx wrote:So, they're thinking of cutting the interest rates due to the trade wars and other economic woes.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/trade-risk ... 1559640601

Yeah, by 2021 or 2022, we'll be in a recession. Earliest is 2020 though, but all of this is my opinion based on what I see, and what my dad as a banker is telling me.

Assuming it doesn't happen in 2020 or Donnie doesn't wreck the nation into a Balkanized doomsday prepper's wet dream by then, a Democrat in the White House is all but guaranteed in 2024 if W. Bush's tenure is any indication.

Zurkerx wrote:So, they're thinking of cutting the interest rates due to the trade wars and other economic woes.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/trade-risk ... 1559640601

Yeah, by 2021 or 2022, we'll be in a recession. Earliest is 2020 though, but all of this is my opinion based on what I see, and what my dad as a banker is telling me.

Oh boy, I love recessions...

Gormwood wrote:

Zurkerx wrote:So, they're thinking of cutting the interest rates due to the trade wars and other economic woes.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/trade-risk ... 1559640601

Yeah, by 2021 or 2022, we'll be in a recession. Earliest is 2020 though, but all of this is my opinion based on what I see, and what my dad as a banker is telling me.

Assuming it doesn't happen in 2020 or Donnie doesn't wreck the nation into a Balkanized doomsday prepper's wet dream by then, a Democrat in the White House is all but guaranteed in 2024 if W. Bush's tenure is any indication.

Aye, but what if a Democrat wins 2020? Because if that happens, it all but guarantees a Republican will win in 2024. Ah, this is going to be pick your poison kind of scenario, isn't it?

Telconi wrote:

Zurkerx wrote:So, they're thinking of cutting the interest rates due to the trade wars and other economic woes.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/trade-risk ... 1559640601

Yeah, by 2021 or 2022, we'll be in a recession. Earliest is 2020 though, but all of this is my opinion based on what I see, and what my dad as a banker is telling me.

Oh boy, I love recessions...

Depends on severity really, they are bound to happen.

Zurkerx wrote:

Gormwood wrote:Assuming it doesn't happen in 2020 or Donnie doesn't wreck the nation into a Balkanized doomsday prepper's wet dream by then, a Democrat in the White House is all but guaranteed in 2024 if W. Bush's tenure is any indication.

Aye, but what if a Democrat wins 2020? Because if that happens, it all but guarantees a Republican will win in 2024. Ah, this is going to be pick your poison kind of scenario, isn't it?

It doesn't really, if the recession hits in 2021 then there'll be a dip, sure, but loads of time for recovery by promotimg stimulus and whathaveyou. 2022 is a tad trickier and you'd have to give up on the midterms wholesale, but that doesn't rule out 2024.

Valrifell wrote:

Zurkerx wrote:
Aye, but what if a Democrat wins 2020? Because if that happens, it all but guarantees a Republican will win in 2024. Ah, this is going to be pick your poison kind of scenario, isn't it?

It doesn't really, if the recession hits in 2021 then there'll be a dip, sure, but loads of time for recovery by promotimg stimulus and whathaveyou. 2022 is a tad trickier and you'd have to give up on the midterms wholesale, but that doesn't rule out 2024.

Recession seems less of an issue than the handling thereof.

Loben The 2nd wrote:

Telconi wrote:
Oh boy, I love recessions...

Depends on severity really, they are bound to happen.

Remember, recessions are natural and cannot be blamed on anyone, but Trump must have all the credit for any improvement in the economy.

Also Barr and Ross will be formally held in contempt unless documentation regarding the citizenship question and other stuff pertaining to the census is turned over by Thursday.