Not my problem if you want to deny bigotry and racism when its so blatant.
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by Andsed » Thu Aug 22, 2019 9:47 am
GLDF wrote:Shrillland wrote:
Because, once again, the people don't want it sold. There may only be 56,000 people on the island, but other countries have fought wars over smaller land with much fewer people on them. The people's wishes shouldn't be ignored for a land and mineral grabbing scheme that's meant to inflate Trump's ego.
Greenland is very important. It is a good middle point and serves the potential for many strategic decisions, as well as economic prosperity. They haven't put it to use and they're military is weak enough that it would be a freebie for invaders. Their language and currency problems are absurd clings to tradition.
If someone successfully organized an area 51 style event, we could probably take them all on with our militia (even if only a few showed up) Finding enough supplies in Greenland would literally be the only issue. It's that pathetic. With all that value, nothing is being done to protect or use Greenland. The Russians could be in Nuuk within a day and have a great advantage over NATO.
by Telconi » Thu Aug 22, 2019 9:52 am
by GLDF » Thu Aug 22, 2019 10:09 am
Andsed wrote:GLDF wrote:Greenland is very important. It is a good middle point and serves the potential for many strategic decisions, as well as economic prosperity. They haven't put it to use and they're military is weak enough that it would be a freebie for invaders. Their language and currency problems are absurd clings to tradition.
If someone successfully organized an area 51 style event, we could probably take them all on with our militia (even if only a few showed up) Finding enough supplies in Greenland would literally be the only issue. It's that pathetic. With all that value, nothing is being done to protect or use Greenland. The Russians could be in Nuuk within a day and have a great advantage over NATO.
And that makes it okay to override the will of those living on Greenland who don´t want to be sold?
by Kowani » Thu Aug 22, 2019 10:21 am
GLDF wrote:Shrillland wrote:
Because, once again, the people don't want it sold. There may only be 56,000 people on the island, but other countries have fought wars over smaller land with much fewer people on them. The people's wishes shouldn't be ignored for a land and mineral grabbing scheme that's meant to inflate Trump's ego.
Greenland is very important. It is a good middle point and serves the potential for many strategic decisions, as well as economic prosperity. They haven't put it to use and they're military is weak enough that it would be a freebie for invaders. Their language and currency problems are absurd clings to tradition.
If someone successfully organized an area 51 style event, we could probably take them all on with our militia (even if only a few showed up) Finding enough supplies in Greenland would literally be the only issue. It's that pathetic. With all that value, nothing is being done to protect or use Greenland. The Russians could be in Nuuk within a day and have a great advantage over NATO.
Edit: I'm not telling anyone to take up arms and invade Greenland. You might be able to, but it's not a great idea.
by Telconi » Thu Aug 22, 2019 10:26 am
by Loben The 2nd » Thu Aug 22, 2019 11:02 am
by Telconi » Thu Aug 22, 2019 11:04 am
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by The Greater Ohio Valley » Thu Aug 22, 2019 11:21 am
by Uiiop » Thu Aug 22, 2019 11:23 am
by Telconi » Thu Aug 22, 2019 11:27 am
by Gravlen » Thu Aug 22, 2019 11:28 am
North German Realm wrote:San Lumen wrote:
No he did not say however what Trump said is very similar to what Hitler said which was Jews are not loyal to the state.
The thing is, Trump didn't say that. He said Jews "that vote democrat" (which is, at this point, specifically against the interests of the current Israeli government) are disloyal to Israel
North German Realm wrote:and therefore to America, which is Israel's primary ally.
North German Realm wrote: His logic isn't sound (and his statement is stupid), but it's on a whole different realm of existence than the Stab in the Back myth.
by Uiiop » Thu Aug 22, 2019 11:33 am
by Telconi » Thu Aug 22, 2019 11:33 am
Gravlen wrote:North German Realm wrote:The thing is, Trump didn't say that. He said Jews "that vote democrat" (which is, at this point, specifically against the interests of the current Israeli government) are disloyal to Israel
Which is problematic, because jewish americans does not hold any intrinsic loyalty to the state of Israel, as he is implying. The whole concept of jews having a dual loyalty to Israel is an anti-semitic trope.North German Realm wrote:and therefore to America, which is Israel's primary ally.
He never linked the two, and he later specified that he only meant disloyalty to Israel.
And then he specified again that he meant Israel, and not the US.North German Realm wrote: His logic isn't sound (and his statement is stupid), but it's on a whole different realm of existence than the Stab in the Back myth.
It's simply a different anti-semitic trope.
by Ifreann » Thu Aug 22, 2019 11:35 am
by Telconi » Thu Aug 22, 2019 11:37 am
Uiiop wrote:Telconi wrote:
Why he thinks what he thinks is irrelevant to rather his thoughts are correct.
Which is why you didn’t focus only on possible motives and instead went after what they claim.
Oh wait.
In any case if you really think they’re just trying to shutdown discussions then Report them.
Troll naming is against the rules for this very reason.
by Gravlen » Thu Aug 22, 2019 11:42 am
Telconi wrote:Gravlen wrote:Which is problematic, because jewish americans does not hold any intrinsic loyalty to the state of Israel, as he is implying. The whole concept of jews having a dual loyalty to Israel is an anti-semitic trope.
He never linked the two, and he later specified that he only meant disloyalty to Israel.
And then he specified again that he meant Israel, and not the US.
It's simply a different anti-semitic trope.
How is the idea that Jewish individuals ought to have dual loyalty to Israel inherently anti-semitic?
People believe Catholics ought to have loyalty to the Vatican, and many of those people are Catholic? Are these people anti-catholic?
n the 19th century, many attacks on Catholics stressed that these immigrants were pawns of a foreign power. In the 1830s, Samuel Morse—then a prominent painter and later the inventor of the telegraph—urged Americans to build “walls” and “gates” to keep out Catholic immigrants, who would always be loyal to Rome. Because these Catholic immigrants were decrepit—“halt, and blind, and naked”—they were easy to control. With their “darkened intellects,” they “obey their priests as demigods.” The Vatican could deploy these “senseless machines” to seize power in America.
by Uiiop » Thu Aug 22, 2019 11:42 am
Telconi wrote:Uiiop wrote:Which is why you didn’t focus only on possible motives and instead went after what they claim.
Oh wait.
In any case if you really think they’re just trying to shutdown discussions then Report them.
Troll naming is against the rules for this very reason.
I never said anyone was a troll.
by Telconi » Thu Aug 22, 2019 11:44 am
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