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Postby Nakena » Fri Jul 19, 2019 4:48 pm

Loben The 2nd wrote:
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How? Because his Tweets and Kellyanne racebaiting a journalist?


in what universe must she be in if she thought that she was going to come out on top of that?


She must have taken an overdosis of 4chan /pol/ approved redpills that morning to her diet. Theres no other reasonable explaination. Even the media has been rather silent about it. It was just too far out there and too unreal.

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Postby Kowani » Fri Jul 19, 2019 4:48 pm

Loben The 2nd wrote:
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How? Because his Tweets and Kellyanne racebaiting a journalist?


in what universe must she be in if she thought that she was going to come out on top of that?

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Postby Telconi » Fri Jul 19, 2019 4:48 pm

Northern Davincia wrote:
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This is an unmitigated disaster. Eugene Scalia for Labor Sec. The horror... the horror...

Is it union-busting time?


Why do you hate the free market?
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Postby Kowani » Fri Jul 19, 2019 4:49 pm

Northern Davincia wrote:
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This is an unmitigated disaster. Eugene Scalia for Labor Sec. The horror... the horror...

Is it union-busting time?

Unions provide a market function. Your hatred for them is inconsistent with libertarian principles.
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Postby Northern Davincia » Fri Jul 19, 2019 4:50 pm

Telconi wrote:
Northern Davincia wrote:Is it union-busting time?


Why do you hate the free market?

Private unions are tolerable, I suppose.
Kowani wrote:
Northern Davincia wrote:Is it union-busting time?

Unions provide a market function. Your hatred for them is inconsistent with libertarian principles.

They'd serve a more consistent market function if the minimum wage were abolished, as it should be.
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Postby Telconi » Fri Jul 19, 2019 4:57 pm

Northern Davincia wrote:
Telconi wrote:
Why do you hate the free market?

Private unions are tolerable, I suppose.
Kowani wrote:Unions provide a market function. Your hatred for them is inconsistent with libertarian principles.

They'd serve a more consistent market function if the minimum wage were abolished, as it should be.


Why not public sector unions, in a truly free market the government would need to source goods and services on the same market that everyone else does. Giving the state an extra advantage is wrong.
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Postby Northern Davincia » Fri Jul 19, 2019 5:06 pm

Telconi wrote:
Northern Davincia wrote:Private unions are tolerable, I suppose.

They'd serve a more consistent market function if the minimum wage were abolished, as it should be.


Why not public sector unions, in a truly free market the government would need to source goods and services on the same market that everyone else does. Giving the state an extra advantage is wrong.

If the government provided their services in the same way the market does, you'd have a point. It currently does not act as a competitor. Public sector unions have far too much political sway to be trusted.
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Postby Gormwood » Fri Jul 19, 2019 5:42 pm

Northern Davincia wrote:
Kowani wrote:Unions provide a market function. Your hatred for them is inconsistent with libertarian principles.

They'd serve a more consistent market function if the minimum wage were abolished, as it should be.

Must be nice having a trust fund and not worrying about having to work for cents a day.
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Postby Ifreann » Fri Jul 19, 2019 6:49 pm

Shrillland wrote:Buy plastic straws at $1.50 apiece to own the Libs! Yes, this is real: https://www.yahoo.com/news/liberal-paper-straws-don-t-142956718.html

Fucking gods.


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Just spoke to @KanyeWest about his friend A$AP Rocky’s incarceration. I will be calling the very talented Prime Minister of Sweden to see what we can do about helping A$AP Rocky. So many people would like to see this quickly resolved!


So just using international influence to impact a criminal trial in a foreign state because a friend called in a favour. See, some people would try to hide this kind of corruption.

Poor Stefan Löfven, what could he possibly have done to deserve having to have a conversation with Donald Trump.
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Fri Jul 19, 2019 7:28 pm

Fox gonna Fox...
The Independent also observed that a “Fox News pundit complained that Ilhan Omar used profanity when quoting Donald Trump,” maintaining that Omar’s quoting of Trump’s own statements was somehow more unseemly than Trump’s original remarks because Trump “didn’t make them on live television at five o’clock”:

A Fox News pundit has complained that Ilhan Omar used profanity when quoting Donald Trump in response to a series of racist tweets he directed at the Democratic congresswoman.

[I]n a discussion of the congresswomen’s impassioned rebuke of the US president on Fox News, pundit [Dana] Perino said: “Can we also mention the profanity?”

In response, one of Ms Perino’s co-hosts, said: “They can argue, well that’s what Trump said. So I’m going to say it.”

“But he didn’t say it on live television at 5 o’clock in the afternoon,” Ms Perino added.

“These are things that they’re quoting from other places. He didn’t say it on television.”
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Postby Ifreann » Fri Jul 19, 2019 7:32 pm

Cannot think of a name wrote:Fox gonna Fox...
The Independent also observed that a “Fox News pundit complained that Ilhan Omar used profanity when quoting Donald Trump,” maintaining that Omar’s quoting of Trump’s own statements was somehow more unseemly than Trump’s original remarks because Trump “didn’t make them on live television at five o’clock”:

A Fox News pundit has complained that Ilhan Omar used profanity when quoting Donald Trump in response to a series of racist tweets he directed at the Democratic congresswoman.

[I]n a discussion of the congresswomen’s impassioned rebuke of the US president on Fox News, pundit [Dana] Perino said: “Can we also mention the profanity?”

In response, one of Ms Perino’s co-hosts, said: “They can argue, well that’s what Trump said. So I’m going to say it.”

“But he didn’t say it on live television at 5 o’clock in the afternoon,” Ms Perino added.

“These are things that they’re quoting from other places. He didn’t say it on television.”

Yeah, Omar, what if children were watching when you quoted THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES? So inconsiderate.
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Postby Nakena » Fri Jul 19, 2019 7:39 pm

Ifreann wrote:
Shrillland wrote:Buy plastic straws at $1.50 apiece to own the Libs! Yes, this is real: https://www.yahoo.com/news/liberal-paper-straws-don-t-142956718.html

Fucking gods.


Now tell me again about Trump not being a strawman.

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Postby Galloism » Sat Jul 20, 2019 7:28 am

Trump says debt ceiling can't be a bargaining chip.

President Donald Trump on Friday extolled the debt ceiling as “a sacred element of our country” that should never be wielded as a bargaining chip in budget talks — despite urging Republican lawmakers to do just that 6½ years ago.

“That’s a very, very sacred thing in our country, debt ceiling. We can never play with it. So I would have to assume we’re in great shape,” Trump told reporters in the Oval Office.

The president’s remarks come as White House officials, led by Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin, home in on a two-year budget agreement with House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) and Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.) that would raise the national debt limit.

“When I first came into office,” Trump said, “I asked about the debt ceiling. … And I said, I remember to Sen. Schumer and to Nancy Pelosi, ‘Would anybody ever use that to negotiate with?’ They said, ‘Absolutely not.’”

The president added: “That’s a sacred element of our country. They can’t use the debt ceiling to negotiate.”

But as a private citizen in December 2012, Trump tweeted that “the Republicans must use the debt ceiling as leverage to make a good deal!”

That social media directive from the future commander in chief came amid the Obama administration’s legislative battles over the U.S. fiscal cliff with then-Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) and former House Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio).

“I can’t imagine anybody ever even thinking of using the debt ceiling as a negotiating wedge,” Trump said Friday
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Postby Galloism » Sat Jul 20, 2019 7:31 am

Trump Denies Being at North Carolina Rally

WASHINGTON —Donald J. Trump attempted to further distance himself from a racist chant shouted at a North Carolina campaign rally earlier this week by denying that he had attended the rally.

“I wasn’t there,” Trump told reporters at the White House on Friday. “If I had been there, you can be sure I would have done everything I could to stop them from chanting.”

Trump said that he was furious that thousands of people had apparently assembled in North Carolina to chant racist things when he was nowhere near the rally and thus totally incapable of intervening.

“It’s the kind of thing I would have been disgusted by if I had been there to hear it,” he said. “Unfortunately, I wasn’t there.”

On Capitol Hill, Senator Lindsey Graham lashed out at reporters for persistently claiming that Trump had, in fact, attended the rally. “If he says he wasn’t there, then, damn it, he wasn’t there,” a visibly furious Graham said. “How do you people sleep at night?”
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Postby Gormwood » Sat Jul 20, 2019 7:41 am

Galloism wrote:Trump says debt ceiling can't be a bargaining chip.

President Donald Trump on Friday extolled the debt ceiling as “a sacred element of our country” that should never be wielded as a bargaining chip in budget talks — despite urging Republican lawmakers to do just that 6½ years ago.

“That’s a very, very sacred thing in our country, debt ceiling. We can never play with it. So I would have to assume we’re in great shape,” Trump told reporters in the Oval Office.

The president’s remarks come as White House officials, led by Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin, home in on a two-year budget agreement with House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) and Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.) that would raise the national debt limit.

“When I first came into office,” Trump said, “I asked about the debt ceiling. … And I said, I remember to Sen. Schumer and to Nancy Pelosi, ‘Would anybody ever use that to negotiate with?’ They said, ‘Absolutely not.’”

The president added: “That’s a sacred element of our country. They can’t use the debt ceiling to negotiate.”

But as a private citizen in December 2012, Trump tweeted that “the Republicans must use the debt ceiling as leverage to make a good deal!”

That social media directive from the future commander in chief came amid the Obama administration’s legislative battles over the U.S. fiscal cliff with then-Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) and former House Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio).

“I can’t imagine anybody ever even thinking of using the debt ceiling as a negotiating wedge,” Trump said Friday

Translation: "Don't do to me what I wanted you to do to that uppity Kenyan Muslim!"
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Postby Gormwood » Sat Jul 20, 2019 7:43 am

Galloism wrote:Trump Denies Being at North Carolina Rally

WASHINGTON —Donald J. Trump attempted to further distance himself from a racist chant shouted at a North Carolina campaign rally earlier this week by denying that he had attended the rally.

“I wasn’t there,” Trump told reporters at the White House on Friday. “If I had been there, you can be sure I would have done everything I could to stop them from chanting.”

Trump said that he was furious that thousands of people had apparently assembled in North Carolina to chant racist things when he was nowhere near the rally and thus totally incapable of intervening.

“It’s the kind of thing I would have been disgusted by if I had been there to hear it,” he said. “Unfortunately, I wasn’t there.”

On Capitol Hill, Senator Lindsey Graham lashed out at reporters for persistently claiming that Trump had, in fact, attended the rally. “If he says he wasn’t there, then, damn it, he wasn’t there,” a visibly furious Graham said. “How do you people sleep at night?”

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Postby San Lumen » Sat Jul 20, 2019 8:02 am

Galloism wrote:Trump Denies Being at North Carolina Rally

WASHINGTON —Donald J. Trump attempted to further distance himself from a racist chant shouted at a North Carolina campaign rally earlier this week by denying that he had attended the rally.

“I wasn’t there,” Trump told reporters at the White House on Friday. “If I had been there, you can be sure I would have done everything I could to stop them from chanting.”

Trump said that he was furious that thousands of people had apparently assembled in North Carolina to chant racist things when he was nowhere near the rally and thus totally incapable of intervening.

“It’s the kind of thing I would have been disgusted by if I had been there to hear it,” he said. “Unfortunately, I wasn’t there.”

On Capitol Hill, Senator Lindsey Graham lashed out at reporters for persistently claiming that Trump had, in fact, attended the rally. “If he says he wasn’t there, then, damn it, he wasn’t there,” a visibly furious Graham said. “How do you people sleep at night?”

You know this is satire right?
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Postby Saiwania » Sat Jul 20, 2019 8:17 am

Donald Trump's support went up over 5 points after he said of Ilhan Omar to "send her back." The rise in support amongst his base will overwhelm the drop in support from Liberals and Independents. I estimate that Trump can lose the popular vote by over 5 million and still win the electoral college a 2nd time. This is what I'm counting on.
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Postby San Lumen » Sat Jul 20, 2019 8:21 am

Saiwania wrote:Donald Trump's support went up over 5 points after he said of Ilhan Omar to "send her back." The rise in support amongst his base will overwhelm the drop in support from Liberals and Independents. I estimate that Trump can lose the popular vote by over 5 million and still win the electoral college a 2nd time. This is what I'm counting on.

source? And that is doubtful. He cannot win with just his base.
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Postby Galloism » Sat Jul 20, 2019 8:39 am

San Lumen wrote:

You know this is satire right?

Wait.
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Postby Ifreann » Sat Jul 20, 2019 8:43 am

Saiwania wrote:Donald Trump's support went up over 5 points after he said of Ilhan Omar to "send her back." The rise in support amongst his base will overwhelm the drop in support from Liberals and Independents.

Not really though. See, Trump's base each only get one vote, no matter how highly they approve of Trump.
I estimate that Trump can lose the popular vote by over 5 million and still win the electoral college a 2nd time. This is what I'm counting on.

You're counting on Trump losing votes? Or on Democrats getting even more votes?
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Postby Vassenor » Sat Jul 20, 2019 8:58 am

Saiwania wrote:Donald Trump's support went up over 5 points after he said of Ilhan Omar to "send her back." The rise in support amongst his base will overwhelm the drop in support from Liberals and Independents. I estimate that Trump can lose the popular vote by over 5 million and still win the electoral college a 2nd time. This is what I'm counting on.


You do realise his base is shrinking, right? Which is skewing the numbers up.
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Postby San Lumen » Sat Jul 20, 2019 8:59 am

Vassenor wrote:
Saiwania wrote:Donald Trump's support went up over 5 points after he said of Ilhan Omar to "send her back." The rise in support amongst his base will overwhelm the drop in support from Liberals and Independents. I estimate that Trump can lose the popular vote by over 5 million and still win the electoral college a 2nd time. This is what I'm counting on.


You do realise his base is shrinking, right? Which is skewing the numbers up.

This is a literal racist and white supremacist your replying to. I assure you democrats will not let people forget these remarks of his and the send her back chant

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Postby Loben The 2nd » Sat Jul 20, 2019 9:56 am

San Lumen wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
You do realise his base is shrinking, right? Which is skewing the numbers up.

This is a literal racist and white supremacist your replying to. I assure you democrats will not let people forget these remarks of his and the send her back chant


Tbh they didnt do much about the whole "lock her up" thing.
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Postby Gormwood » Sat Jul 20, 2019 12:22 pm

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