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Postby Ifreann » Mon Oct 14, 2019 7:11 am

Juristonia wrote:BLM started around 2013, so it's pretty impressive they were already trying to take out Trump years before he announced running for president.

But Trump took them out, popped 'em right in the metaphorical head, showing once and for all that black lives don't...em...uh...hang on...
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Postby Tarsonis » Mon Oct 14, 2019 7:15 am

Oh are we pretending the framing of Trump as the leader of the Al-Right movement never happened? Okay.
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Postby Tarsonis » Mon Oct 14, 2019 7:17 am

Juristonia wrote:BLM started around 2013, so it's pretty impressive they were already trying to take out Trump years before he announced running for president.


And CNN was founded in 1980. What’s your point?
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Postby Ifreann » Mon Oct 14, 2019 7:26 am

Tarsonis wrote:Oh are we pretending the framing of Trump as the leader of the Al-Right movement never happened? Okay.

Are you now saying that BLM was all about opposing the alt right in general? Because, again, I thought their thing was police brutality. I don't see how they could be said to have been trying to take down Trump. Trump loves the police, sure, but the President doesn't really have anything to do with the many thousands of police forces in the US.
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Mon Oct 14, 2019 7:31 am

It's a good thing it's just videos and no one is actually trying to enact violence against the media like sending them bombs or threatened to shoot reporters critical of Trump or threatened to shoot a newspaper office because they were the 'enemy of the people' or threatened reporters in LA or that there is a long tradition of violent rhetoric against the media leading to actual violence against the media as a way to suppress the media. It's just a joke. Quite making us think about the consequences of things people in power do.
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Mon Oct 14, 2019 7:34 am

Ifreann wrote:
Tarsonis wrote:Oh are we pretending the framing of Trump as the leader of the Al-Right movement never happened? Okay.

Are you now saying that BLM was all about opposing the alt right in general? Because, again, I thought their thing was police brutality. I don't see how they could be said to have been trying to take down Trump. Trump loves the police, sure, but the President doesn't really have anything to do with the many thousands of police forces in the US.

Well, he did want the Central Park Five executed and even when they were found not guilty he pulled out his 'both sides' card.
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Postby Miami Shores » Mon Oct 14, 2019 7:35 am

source Politico:
https://www.politico.com/news/2019/10/1 ... obe-045910

I am adding to my previous post.

I am the one who broke the news on this thread with a previous post of Democrat Chairman Adam Schiff of the House Intelligence Committee's statement that the whistleblower may not have to testify after all, because they have enough to impeach Trump, and he is very concerned for the whistleblower's safety lol, what he is concerned about is to take down Trump, lets not deny it. What he is concerned about is to take down Trump not about justice in America, lets not deny it.

Since their is no quid pro quo, he also says their doesn't have to be a quid pro quo lol, why am I not surprised?

Nancy Pelosi, I will be fair to Trump, yeah how nice of her lol.
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Postby Gravlen » Mon Oct 14, 2019 7:35 am

Duhon wrote:A totally normal thing just happened at one of Trump's resorts.

See now totally normal it totally is.

At least both the Trump campaign and the American Priority Conference are distancing themselves from the video:
Tim Murtaugh, a spokesman for the Trump campaign, told the New York Times: "That video was not produced by the campaign, and we do not condone violence."

Trump 2020 campaign disavows parody media massacre video
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Postby Miami Shores » Mon Oct 14, 2019 7:36 am

Gravlen wrote:
Duhon wrote:A totally normal thing just happened at one of Trump's resorts.

See now totally normal it totally is.

At least both the Trump campaign and the American Priority Conference are distancing themselves from the video:
Tim Murtaugh, a spokesman for the Trump campaign, told the New York Times: "That video was not produced by the campaign, and we do not condone violence."

Trump 2020 campaign disavows parody media massacre video

At least.
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Mon Oct 14, 2019 7:39 am

Gravlen wrote:
Duhon wrote:A totally normal thing just happened at one of Trump's resorts.

See now totally normal it totally is.

At least both the Trump campaign and the American Priority Conference are distancing themselves from the video:
Tim Murtaugh, a spokesman for the Trump campaign, told the New York Times: "That video was not produced by the campaign, and we do not condone violence."

Trump 2020 campaign disavows parody media massacre video

The rare case of the administration having more sense than their followers.
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Postby Tarsonis » Mon Oct 14, 2019 7:41 am

Ifreann wrote:
Tarsonis wrote:Oh are we pretending the framing of Trump as the leader of the Al-Right movement never happened? Okay.

Are you now saying that BLM was all about opposing the alt right in general? Because, again, I thought their thing was police brutality. I don't see how they could be said to have been trying to take down Trump. Trump loves the police, sure, but the President doesn't really have anything to do with the many thousands of police forces in the US.


You’re right a group that started with a singular topic doesn’t expand its focus to topics it thinks are related.

This never happend
https://www.mic.com/articles/183907/aft ... -alt-right

This never happened

https://www.wusa9.com/mobile/article/ne ... 58da127ccc

And this never happened
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/af ... ng-n793756


God it’s always refreshing when you’re deliberately obtuse.
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Postby Miami Shores » Mon Oct 14, 2019 7:42 am

Cannot think of a name wrote:
Gravlen wrote:At least both the Trump campaign and the American Priority Conference are distancing themselves from the video:
Tim Murtaugh, a spokesman for the Trump campaign, told the New York Times: "That video was not produced by the campaign, and we do not condone violence."

Trump 2020 campaign disavows parody media massacre video

The rare case of the administration having more sense than their followers.

As I Previously Posted, while I don't support or endorse this video, as I don't do this anywhere, they do it because they are sick of the leftist media and the leftist hatred of Trump.
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Postby Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States » Mon Oct 14, 2019 7:56 am

Miami Shores wrote:
Cannot think of a name wrote:The rare case of the administration having more sense than their followers.

As I Previously Posted, while I don't support or endorse this video, as I don't do this anywhere, they do it because they are sick of the leftist media and the leftist hatred of Trump.

Why is dislike of Trump so violently offensive of a concept to you?
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Postby Miami Shores » Mon Oct 14, 2019 8:01 am

Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States wrote:
Miami Shores wrote:As I Previously Posted, while I don't support or endorse this video, as I don't do this anywhere, they do it because they are sick of the leftist media and the leftist hatred of Trump.

Why is dislike of Trump so violently offensive of a concept to you?

Perhaps you did not read my post correctly like my statement of myself, It is not violently or un violently offensive to me, what I am saying is the leftist media and the leftist hatred of Trump is real, across the nation and on this site by certain nations, lets not deny it, for the record I have not named any nations in particular, but lets not deny the leftist hatred of Trump.
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Mon Oct 14, 2019 8:02 am

Miami Shores wrote:
Cannot think of a name wrote:The rare case of the administration having more sense than their followers.

As I Previously Posted, while I don't support or endorse this video, as I don't do this anywhere, they do it because they are sick of the leftist media and the leftist hatred of Trump.

And to think all this time we thought their motivation was the cancellation of Firefly...
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Postby Miami Shores » Mon Oct 14, 2019 8:03 am

Cannot think of a name wrote:
Miami Shores wrote:As I Previously Posted, while I don't support or endorse this video, as I don't do this anywhere, they do it because they are sick of the leftist media and the leftist hatred of Trump.

And to think all this time we thought their motivation was the cancellation of Firefly...

Doesn't even make sense to me lol.
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Mon Oct 14, 2019 8:05 am

Miami Shores wrote:
Cannot think of a name wrote:And to think all this time we thought their motivation was the cancellation of Firefly...

Doesn't even make sense to me lol.

"They do it because they don't like criticism from the media" is on the tin. You added nothing. You said literally the most obvious thing like it was an insight. Their motivations were not a mystery.
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Postby Ifreann » Mon Oct 14, 2019 8:05 am

Cannot think of a name wrote:It's a good thing it's just videos and no one is actually trying to enact violence against the media like sending them bombs or threatened to shoot reporters critical of Trump or threatened to shoot a newspaper office because they were the 'enemy of the people' or threatened reporters in LA or that there is a long tradition of violent rhetoric against the media leading to actual violence against the media as a way to suppress the media. It's just a joke. Quite making us think about the consequences of things people in power do.

Those were just meme threats. And bombs.

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Ifreann wrote:Are you now saying that BLM was all about opposing the alt right in general? Because, again, I thought their thing was police brutality. I don't see how they could be said to have been trying to take down Trump. Trump loves the police, sure, but the President doesn't really have anything to do with the many thousands of police forces in the US.


You’re right a group that started with a singular topic doesn’t expand its focus to topics it thinks are related.

This never happend
https://www.mic.com/articles/183907/aft ... -alt-right

This never happened

https://www.wusa9.com/mobile/article/ne ... 58da127ccc

And this never happened
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/af ... ng-n793756


God it’s always refreshing when you’re deliberately obtuse.

Look, you said that this was a meme about Trump winning against the people who try to take him down. It is on you to explain how Black Lives Matter were ever trying to take down Trump. Protesting against the alt-right isn't trying to take down Trump, not even if you believe that someone else somewhere believes that Trump is the king of the alt-right or whatever.
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Postby Miami Shores » Mon Oct 14, 2019 8:10 am

Cannot think of a name wrote:
Miami Shores wrote:Doesn't even make sense to me lol.

"They do it because they don't like criticism from the media" is on the tin. You added nothing. You said literally the most obvious thing like it was an insight. Their motivations were not a mystery.

I accept your views and I explained their views and feelings.
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Postby The South Falls » Mon Oct 14, 2019 8:10 am

Miami Shores wrote:
Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States wrote:Why is dislike of Trump so violently offensive of a concept to you?

Perhaps you did not read my post correctly like my statement of myself, It is not violently or un violently offensive to me, what I am saying is the leftist media and the leftist hatred of Trump is real, across the nation and on this site by certain nations, lets not deny it, for the record I have not named any nations in particular, but lets not deny the leftist hatred of Trump.

The entire media is not leftist, I'll say it now and say it again.
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Postby Ifreann » Mon Oct 14, 2019 8:11 am

The South Falls wrote:
Miami Shores wrote:Perhaps you did not read my post correctly like my statement of myself, It is not violently or un violently offensive to me, what I am saying is the leftist media and the leftist hatred of Trump is real, across the nation and on this site by certain nations, lets not deny it, for the record I have not named any nations in particular, but lets not deny the leftist hatred of Trump.

The entire media is not leftist, I'll say it now and say it again.

Also Black Lives Matter isn't "the media".
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Postby Miami Shores » Mon Oct 14, 2019 8:17 am

The South Falls wrote:
Miami Shores wrote:Perhaps you did not read my post correctly like my statement of myself, It is not violently or un violently offensive to me, what I am saying is the leftist media and the leftist hatred of Trump is real, across the nation and on this site by certain nations, lets not deny it, for the record I have not named any nations in particular, but lets not deny the leftist hatred of Trump.

The entire media is not leftist, I'll say it now and say it again.

I agree, their is a right wing media and their is a left wing media, the right wing media spins it to the right and the left wing media spins it to the left. I can read anti Trump left wing media articles and links past their leftist spin, I can read between the lines the substance of their posts, their are leftists who cant do that with Pro Trump right wing media articles.

I once posted a Breibart article with a video of a Democrat trashing Trump, the leftist nation on NS, posted he would not see the link because it was a Breibart link, I posted to him the Video speaks for itself not Breibart.

Does not change my statement above, does not change the leftist hatread of trump, which is very real, lets not deny it.
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Postby The South Falls » Mon Oct 14, 2019 8:26 am

Miami Shores wrote:
The South Falls wrote:The entire media is not leftist, I'll say it now and say it again.

I agree, their is a right wing media and their is a left wing media, the right wing media spins it to the right and the left wing media spins it to the left. I can read anti Trump left wing media articles and links past their leftist spin, I can read between the lines the substance of their posts, their are leftists who cant do that with Pro Trump right wing media articles.

I once posted a Breibart article with a video of a Democrat trashing Trump, the leftist nation on NS, posted he would not see the link because it was a Breibart link, I posted to him the Video speaks for itself not Breibart.

Does not change my statement above, does not change the leftist hatread of trump, which is very real, lets not deny it.

Some media doesn't like Trump. But, you can make a pretty upright case as to why that would be deserved.
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Postby Miami Shores » Mon Oct 14, 2019 8:27 am

The South Falls wrote:
Miami Shores wrote:I agree, their is a right wing media and their is a left wing media, the right wing media spins it to the right and the left wing media spins it to the left. I can read anti Trump left wing media articles and links past their leftist spin, I can read between the lines the substance of their posts, their are leftists who cant do that with Pro Trump right wing media articles.

I once posted a Breibart article with a video of a Democrat trashing Trump, the leftist nation on NS, posted he would not see the link because it was a Breibart link, I posted to him the Video speaks for itself not Breibart.

Does not change my statement above, does not change the leftist hatread of trump, which is very real, lets not deny it.

Some media doesn't like Trump. But, you can make a pretty upright case as to why that would be deserved.

lol it is only deserved based on their leftist politics.
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Postby San Lumen » Mon Oct 14, 2019 8:31 am

Miami Shores wrote:
The South Falls wrote:Some media doesn't like Trump. But, you can make a pretty upright case as to why that would be deserved.

lol it is only deserved based on their leftist politics.

Yeah how dare the media hold the government accountable and call our Trumps lies instead of just singing his praises
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