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PostPosted: Sun Oct 13, 2019 7:47 pm
by Zurkerx
Bombadil wrote:
Aureumterra wrote:What do you mean? There’s no magic button in the WH that renders all repercussions of a diplomatic decision useless. The people who think that any country can be broken ties with because they did something that immoral is the most hilariously naive interpretation of geopolitics


Except that's not what is happening, Trump is specifically enabling something immoral by his actions for no gain anyone can see, at least not for US interests. His own business interests perhaps..


More likely than not, he's protecting his own interests.

PostPosted: Sun Oct 13, 2019 7:49 pm
by GLDF
Telconi wrote:
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:Except no, the idea that I trot around is preventing crazy people from geting guns.


Are you running for President? Are you the Democratic party?

So if I say Republicans will gas the Jews, it is true until Trump posts on this forum that it is not true?

PostPosted: Sun Oct 13, 2019 8:01 pm
by Telconi
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Telconi wrote:
Are you running for President? Are you the Democratic party?


No but we are on the same poltical side.


So?

GLDF wrote:
Telconi wrote:
Are you running for President? Are you the Democratic party?

So if I say Republicans will gas the Jews, it is true until Trump posts on this forum that it is not true?


Does this post make sense to you? To anyone else?

PostPosted: Sun Oct 13, 2019 8:04 pm
by GLDF
Telconi wrote:
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
No but we are on the same poltical side.


So?

GLDF wrote:So if I say Republicans will gas the Jews, it is true until Trump posts on this forum that it is not true?


Does this post make sense to you? To anyone else?

It was based on your logic that only a party's presidential candidate and/or the personification of said party posting on this site can determine their policy position. The posts that don't make sense are your own.

PostPosted: Sun Oct 13, 2019 8:09 pm
by Miami Shores
GLDF wrote:At least some Republicans have the sense to oppose our president who doesn't have the right interests in mind, even for just one time. Trump is an unreliable ally who will go along with dictators. He's a hazard to democracy.

oh we are fellow rejects lol.

Perhaps you have not seen my posts.

I am against President Trump's soft policy on North Korea and on his betrayal of the Kurds. I support and independent Kurdistan nation state, I think they can become an oil rich, strong military power and US ally like Israel.

I am anti ISIS.

I used to work with 2 North Koreans, we talked in English about our nations of North Korea and Cuba and we found out we have a lot in common.

But I support him for being against the Venezuelan and Cuban regime.

PostPosted: Sun Oct 13, 2019 8:16 pm
by Telconi
GLDF wrote:
Telconi wrote:
So?



Does this post make sense to you? To anyone else?

It was based on your logic that only a party's presidential candidate and/or the personification of said party posting on this site can determine their policy position. The posts that don't make sense are your own.


Uh yeah, the idea that a party's stated position is it's position is pretty reasonable don't you think?

PostPosted: Sun Oct 13, 2019 8:19 pm
by Bombadil
Miami Shores wrote:
GLDF wrote:At least some Republicans have the sense to oppose our president who doesn't have the right interests in mind, even for just one time. Trump is an unreliable ally who will go along with dictators. He's a hazard to democracy.

oh we are fellow rejects lol.

Perhaps you have not seen my posts.

I am against President Trump's soft policy on North Korea and on his betrayal of the Kurds. I support and independent Kurdistan nation state, I think they can become an oil rich, strong military power and US ally like Israel.

I used to work with 2 North Koreans, we talked in English about our nations of North Korea and Cuba and we found out we have a lot in common.

But I support him for being against the Venezuelan and Cuban regime.


Trump has consistently shown himself to be willing to allow regimes to repress people in return for merely the promise of the deal, not even an actual deal just a promise to come to the negotiation table.

China, Turkey, NK, he only makes deals with repressive regimes because they want something, and that is for him to remove barriers to their repression, or not have an opinion on them.

If either Cuba or Venezuela said 'hey, we'll come to the negotiating table if you allow us to repress a group of people', he'd say yes instantly.

He's not particularly getting any deals with any group that doesn't have a need to be able to repress people, such as the EU for example.

PostPosted: Sun Oct 13, 2019 8:26 pm
by Miami Shores
Gravlen wrote:
Gormwood wrote:Probably some real estate or merchandising deal with Turkey.

No, seriously, it's not even that. Basically, Erdogan spoke nicely about Trump, so Trump did something nice in return for him, going off script and doing some free-hand negotiating. And being the Master Dealmaker that he is, he secured a deal.

Lest we forget:
The U.S. withdrawal plays into the hands of the Islamic State group, Damascus and Moscow, and the announcement left Trump's own Defense Department "completely stunned," said Pentagon officials. Turkey, like the United States, wants regime change in Syria. Russia and Iran support the Assad regime.

"President Trump was definitely out-negotiated and only endorsed the troop withdraw to make it look like we are getting something—but we are not getting something," the National Security Council source told Newsweek. "The U.S. national security has entered a state of increased danger for decades to come because the president has no spine and that's the bottom line."


Trump has no credibility in international matters and no weight to push around. International leaders know he's a weak push-over and a coward, and they're playing him like a cheap fiddle.

: No, seriously, it's not even that. Basically, Erdogan spoke nicely about Trump, so Trump did something nice in return for him, going off script and doing some free-hand negotiating. And being the Master Dealmaker that he is, he secured a deal.

lol, now the Democrats really have something to impeach Trump on.

PostPosted: Sun Oct 13, 2019 8:34 pm
by Bombadil
Meanwhile, for the upcoming fresh new thread, I nominate 'Impeaches and Cream' as the title.

PostPosted: Sun Oct 13, 2019 8:39 pm
by Miami Shores
Bombadil wrote:Meanwhile, for the upcoming fresh new thread, I nominate 'Impeaches and Cream' as the title.

I Promised San Lumen no more lol attacks and I will keep my Promise not eve a _ _ _
Oh it's killing me trying to not even _ _ _ at this Post, good one Bombadil.

PostPosted: Sun Oct 13, 2019 9:06 pm
by Gormwood
Under "The Boss Baby is no longer just a movie"...

Trump called head of Fox News to complain about coverage: report

PostPosted: Sun Oct 13, 2019 9:11 pm
by San Lumen
Gormwood wrote:Under "The Boss Baby is no longer just a movie"...

Trump called head of Fox News to complain about coverage: report

I wish they would turn on him completely but that’s probably wishful thinking

PostPosted: Sun Oct 13, 2019 9:15 pm
by Miami Shores
San Lumen wrote:
Gormwood wrote:Under "The Boss Baby is no longer just a movie"...

Trump called head of Fox News to complain about coverage: report

I wish they would turn on him completely but that’s probably wishful thinking

You got that right San Lumen.

PostPosted: Sun Oct 13, 2019 10:34 pm
by Duhon
A totally normal thing just happened at one of Trump's resorts.

See now totally normal it totally is.

PostPosted: Mon Oct 14, 2019 1:38 am
by Gravlen
Duhon wrote:A totally normal thing just happened at one of Trump's resorts.

See now totally normal it totally is.

Image

Yeah... Normal...

At least the makers of the video embrace their racism.

PostPosted: Mon Oct 14, 2019 2:15 am
by Page
Gormwood wrote:Under "The Boss Baby is no longer just a movie"...

Trump called head of Fox News to complain about coverage: report


Trump ordering Fox News around while Biden does the same to CNN.

Noam Chomsky once pointed out that despite freedom of press in the United States, corporate media is actually more compliant to the government's demands than state owned media in other countries.

PostPosted: Mon Oct 14, 2019 2:31 am
by Gormwood
Gravlen wrote:
Duhon wrote:A totally normal thing just happened at one of Trump's resorts.

See now totally normal it totally is.

Image

Yeah... Normal...

At least the makers of the video embrace their racism.

Probably from the same Donny-worshipping dipshit(s) who made a similar kind of video by ripping off WWE footage.

PostPosted: Mon Oct 14, 2019 3:49 am
by Loben The 2nd
Gormwood wrote:
Gravlen wrote:Image

Yeah... Normal...

At least the makers of the video embrace their racism.

Probably from the same Donny-worshipping dipshit(s) who made a similar kind of video by ripping off WWE footage.


You mean the one that CNN got their pantys in a twist over?

PostPosted: Mon Oct 14, 2019 3:51 am
by Vassenor
Loben The 2nd wrote:
Gormwood wrote:Probably from the same Donny-worshipping dipshit(s) who made a similar kind of video by ripping off WWE footage.


You mean the one that CNN got their pantys in a twist over?


I forgot that people find threatening the free press to be amusing.

PostPosted: Mon Oct 14, 2019 3:52 am
by Washington Resistance Army
Vassenor wrote:
Loben The 2nd wrote:
You mean the one that CNN got their pantys in a twist over?


I forgot that people find threatening the free press to be amusing.


Page had a point in regards to this. Despite being free on paper corporate media often functions exactly the same as state run media, just for its preferred side. I.e. Fox and the GOP, CNN/MSNBC for the Dems.

PostPosted: Mon Oct 14, 2019 5:16 am
by Valrifell
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
I forgot that people find threatening the free press to be amusing.


Page had a point in regards to this. Despite being free on paper corporate media often functions exactly the same as state run media, just for its preferred side. I.e. Fox and the GOP, CNN/MSNBC for the Dems.


All forms of media have become more niche over time to survive, it is no wonder that the wonderful world of cable news media follows the same pattern.

PostPosted: Mon Oct 14, 2019 5:27 am
by Andsed
Vassenor wrote:
Loben The 2nd wrote:
You mean the one that CNN got their pantys in a twist over?


I forgot that people find threatening the free press to be amusing.

I fail to see how making a dumb meme is ¨threatening the free press.¨ I mean if were being honest if anyone was threatening anyone in that situation it was CNN threatening to dox someone for making a fucking meme.

PostPosted: Mon Oct 14, 2019 5:27 am
by Tarsonis
Vassenor wrote:
Loben The 2nd wrote:
You mean the one that CNN got their pantys in a twist over?


I forgot that people find threatening the free press to be amusing.


Come on nobody threatened the press it was just a meme meant to be funny and Donny tweeted it because he thought it was not because he wanted his supporters to start beating up the press (especially seeing as nobody did). Don’t be deliberately obtuse about it like they were.

PostPosted: Mon Oct 14, 2019 5:28 am
by Loben The 2nd
Vassenor wrote:
Loben The 2nd wrote:
You mean the one that CNN got their pantys in a twist over?


I forgot that people find threatening the free press to be amusing.

Won’t someone think of the corporate media’s talking heads?

PostPosted: Mon Oct 14, 2019 5:28 am
by Tarsonis
Page wrote:
Gormwood wrote:Under "The Boss Baby is no longer just a movie"...

Trump called head of Fox News to complain about coverage: report


Trump ordering Fox News around while Biden does the same to CNN.

Noam Chomsky once pointed out that despite freedom of press in the United States, corporate media is actually more compliant to the government's demands than state owned media in other countries.


And let’s not forgot Hillary’s leaked guidances to the press outlets.