MAGAThread XVI: Raising the Barr

[Ifreann]

Yah I'm sure THIS time the infamous yellow journalist is telling the truth!

Google trying its damndest to squash what they got is my major reason here tbh

The peddlers of lies are surely telling the truth now that Google is, for once, being responsible and not helping to spread their lies.

[Proctopeo]

Google trying its damndest to squash what they got is my major reason here tbh

The peddlers of lies are surely telling the truth now that Google is, for once, being responsible and not helping to spread their lies.

When the "lies" that suddenly cause Google to act are about Google themselves, yeah, it's obviously pretty sketchy.

[Gormwood]

Stopping the spread of fake news from a known lair?

Screaming FAIK NOOS doesn't suddenly make it not shady as shit lmao

Oh right, only acceptable when Donnie does it.

So if HuffPo or The Daily Beast comes out with an exposé will you be open to them?

I'll definitely hear them out, especially if attempts to shut them up by the group being exposed start to happen.
Though it's nice to see you admit that HuffPo is as unreliable as Veritas

So when was HuffPo nailed for doctoring videos or trying to bug a legislator's office?

[Proctopeo]

Screaming FAIK NOOS doesn't suddenly make it not shady as shit lmao

Oh right, only acceptable when Donnie does it.

I don't even know what you're trying to get at here. Alleging hypocrisy? lmao

I'll definitely hear them out, especially if attempts to shut them up by the group being exposed start to happen.
Though it's nice to see you admit that HuffPo is as unreliable as Veritas

So when was HuffPo nailed for doctoring videos or trying to bug a legislator's office?

Hey, it's you who said that Huffpo and Veritas are comparable, I just removed the obfuscation. That's a question for you to answer.

[Galloism]

Yah I'm sure THIS time the infamous yellow journalist is telling the truth!

Like Gauth said, broken clocks can still be right, and occasionally Veritas does produce something that is at least actually eyebrow raising. Admittedly I don't know anything at all about the most recent stuff so I can't comment on it but given it's seemingly about Google, yeah I wouldn't be shocked if there was some shitty behavior being exposed.

I actually would like a law that when publishing an interview with someone, the full interview must be made available for download without cutting or redaction.

Should cut down on gotchas, and at least make the gotchas disprovable.

[Gormwood]

Oh right, only acceptable when Donnie does it.

I don't even know what you're trying to get at here. Alleging hypocrisy? lmao

So when was HuffPo nailed for doctoring videos or trying to bug a legislator's office?

Hey, it's you who said that Huffpo and Veritas are comparable, I just removed the obfuscation. That's a question for you to answer.

No, that was asking if you'd suddenly find a story from the two left journalist sites just as credible as you always find PV credible. My suspicion is "no".

[Proctopeo]

I don't even know what you're trying to get at here. Alleging hypocrisy? lmao


Hey, it's you who said that Huffpo and Veritas are comparable, I just removed the obfuscation. That's a question for you to answer.

No, that was asking if you'd suddenly find a story from the two left journalist sites just as credible as you always find PV credible. My suspicion is "no".

>always
I literally said I usually find them untrustworthy, this time is just the exception.
Hell I said it on this very page.

[Ifreann]

The peddlers of lies are surely telling the truth now that Google is, for once, being responsible and not helping to spread their lies.

When the "lies" that suddenly cause Google to act are about Google themselves, yeah, it's obviously pretty sketchy.

Not really. Project Veritas famously got ACORN defunded, repeatedly, and shut down despite ACORN ultimately being proven to not have done anything wrong at all. Accusations don't have to be true to be damaging, so it does not follow that if Google wants to protect its reputation from these accusations then they must be true. And Google has been saying for years now that they are going to try and stop the proliferation of fake news.

[Proctopeo]

When the "lies" that suddenly cause Google to act are about Google themselves, yeah, it's obviously pretty sketchy.

Not really. Project Veritas famously got ACORN defunded, repeatedly, and shut down despite ACORN ultimately being proven to not have done anything wrong at all. Accusations don't have to be true to be damaging, so it does not follow that if Google wants to protect its reputation from these accusations then they must be true. And Google has been saying for years now that they are going to try and stop the proliferation of fake news.

Google's reputation is damn near untouchable, with the only people able to take them down being themselves and an antitrust suit. They don't need to suppress the information. If it's false. they just need to demonstrate that, which should be easy.
Seems like Google is afraid because it is themselves that they're being hurt by.

Also, lemme just appreciate the weirdness of leftists siding with a monopoly because the other option is shady journalism

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When the "lies" that suddenly cause Google to act are about Google themselves, yeah, it's obviously pretty sketchy.

Not really. Project Veritas famously got ACORN defunded, repeatedly, and shut down despite ACORN ultimately being proven to not have done anything wrong at all. Accusations don't have to be true to be damaging, so it does not follow that if Google wants to protect its reputation from these accusations then they must be true. And Google has been saying for years now that they are going to try and stop the proliferation of fake news.

And isn't Project Veritas the same group that doctored a video to make it look like Planned Parenthood agreed to help them with human trafficking, when in fact Planned Parenthood led them on to get information and immediately called the police to report them? Or is that another group of scumbags?

[Ifreann]

Not really. Project Veritas famously got ACORN defunded, repeatedly, and shut down despite ACORN ultimately being proven to not have done anything wrong at all. Accusations don't have to be true to be damaging, so it does not follow that if Google wants to protect its reputation from these accusations then they must be true. And Google has been saying for years now that they are going to try and stop the proliferation of fake news.

Google's reputation is damn near untouchable, with the only people able to take them down being themselves and an antitrust suit. They don't need to suppress the information.

If so, they wouldn't suppress true accusations either, would they?

If it's false. they just need to demonstrate that, which should be easy.

If they're stopping the proliferation of fake news then they're not going to make exceptions for fake news about themselves, are they?

Seems like Google is afraid because it is themselves that they're being hurt by.

What?

Also, lemme just appreciate the weirdness of leftists siding with a monopoly because the other option is shady journalism

I can say that Project Veritas are lying about Google without liking Google or being on their "side".

[Zurkerx]

In a totally not surprising move, Trump wants to delay the census.

So, they claimed they needed the court to rule in a timely matter so they can print the census out in time by Sunday. Now it seems they want to delay it, which could prove problem some since the Constitution mandates a census every ten years; all because he didn't get the ruling he wanted. Eh, I see him failing on that.

[Fartsniffage]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-48791094

Well this will be a lot of fun.

[Major-Tom]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-48791094

Well this will be a lot of fun.

Here come the cries of censorship.

[The Archipelago Territory]

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1144177713869017089?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fd-3014519863363274852.ampproject.net%2F1906191709480%2Fframe.html

So Trump tweeted a doctored video and it’s hilarious, although it does paint the DNC debate event in a negative light along with Trump’s comments. The video shows the lights turning off as people in the debate are screaming, as Ozzy Osbourne plays while Trump walks on the debate stage while the Trump Pence logo pops up. What are your takes on this? Is it funny, or should Trump not tweet fake videos?

[Magnum Exitium]

It’s pretty funny, and he wasn’t claiming it was real, so I don’t see the problem.

[The Archipelago Territory]

I don’t either, but some people would as he used it to attack NBC

[The Archipelago Territory]

It’s pretty funny, and he wasn’t claiming it was real, so I don’t see the problem.

The thing is I thought it was real at first, as many would without knowing it was just an ad

[Cekoviu]

Very presidential.

[Lanorth]

Quite funny.

[Major-Tom]

Of all the shit we see from the Trump administration on a weekly basis, this lands somewhere between "not newsworthy" and "boring." Meh.

[Heloin]

[Proctopeo]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-48791094

Well this will be a lot of fun.

Here come the cries of censorship.

That's textbook censorship lmao

[The Archipelago Territory]

Quite funny.

Whenever the screaming starts I start dying laughing and then again when trump comes up

Very presidential.

That’s why he shouldn’t have tweeted this, it should’ve been a campaign ad IMO

[Major-Tom]

Here come the cries of censorship.

That's textbook censorship lmao

It's a private company, they can do as they please. The same people who think it's fine for a business to serve who they please should also be fine with a social media company doing something remarkably similar.

If Twitter were affiliated directly with the US government, we'd be having a markedly different conversation.