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Postby Telconi » Fri Oct 11, 2019 4:29 pm

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The Emerald Legion wrote:
Prevented Hillary Clinton from being president for starters. Driven the Democratic party literally insane for second.

So "Owned The Libs." Great accomplishment there.


Better to own than be owned.
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Fri Oct 11, 2019 4:29 pm

The Emerald Legion wrote:
Cannot think of a name wrote:Is it 2016 again?


Are you really going to ignore things because they didn't happen yesterday?

Look man, if the best you got for your guy is he barely won an election three years ago...

But seriously. It's 2019. Trump is embroiled in an impeachment scandal. He's just left an ally behind to be attacked. I can get why you don't want to deal with current events, but...there are current events. You can't keep rubbing the Clinton lamp to get out of the shit this dude is in. It's over. He won. Now we have to deal with the numerous giant piles of shit he keeps leaving everywhere. Keep up.
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Postby The Emerald Legion » Fri Oct 11, 2019 4:29 pm

Gormwood wrote:
The Emerald Legion wrote:
Prevented Hillary Clinton from being president for starters. Driven the Democratic party literally insane for second.

So "Owned The Libs." Great accomplishment there.


The fuck does that even mean besides some meaningless buzzy way of denigrating others for disagreeing with you?
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Fri Oct 11, 2019 4:30 pm

The Emerald Legion wrote:
Gormwood wrote:So "Owned The Libs." Great accomplishment there.


The fuck does that even mean besides some meaningless buzzy way of denigrating others for disagreeing with you?

"Driven the Democratic party literally insane for second." is literally just "owned the libs" rephrased.
"...I have been gravely disappointed with the white moderate. I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro's great stumbling block in the stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen's Council-er or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate who is more devoted to "order" than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says "I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I can't agree with your methods of direct action;" who paternalistically feels he can set the timetable for another man's freedom; who lives by the myth of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait until a "more convenient season." -MLK Jr.

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Postby Telconi » Fri Oct 11, 2019 4:31 pm

Uiiop wrote:
Telconi wrote:
Tbf, great is not a prerequisite for better.

He jumped in when people were talking about the former and not the latter so thanks for proving my point.


Well it's a loyalty thing. You cheer for your side because they're your side. And it's ultimately a content of who's side offers greater support.

I don't have to think he's great to say he's great. I just need to understand that the louder and more excitedly I cherr for him, the more likely he is to be President again come next term.
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Postby Telconi » Fri Oct 11, 2019 4:32 pm

Cannot think of a name wrote:
The Emerald Legion wrote:
Are you really going to ignore things because they didn't happen yesterday?

Look man, if the best you got for your guy is he barely won an election three years ago...

But seriously. It's 2019. Trump is embroiled in an impeachment scandal. He's just left an ally behind to be attacked. I can get why you don't want to deal with current events, but...there are current events. You can't keep rubbing the Clinton lamp to get out of the shit this dude is in. It's over. He won. Now we have to deal with the numerous giant piles of shit he keeps leaving everywhere. Keep up.


Why? None of those piles of shit are in smelling distance of me.
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Postby Uiiop » Fri Oct 11, 2019 4:33 pm

Telconi wrote:
Uiiop wrote:He jumped in when people were talking about the former and not the latter so thanks for proving my point.


Well it's a loyalty thing. You cheer for your side because they're your side. And it's ultimately a content of who's side offers greater support.

I don't have to think he's great to say he's great. I just need to understand that the louder and more excitedly I cherr for him, the more likely he is to be President again come next term.

Pretty sure it's a quantity over quality thing but ok.
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Postby Valrifell » Fri Oct 11, 2019 4:33 pm

Telconi wrote:
Cannot think of a name wrote:Look man, if the best you got for your guy is he barely won an election three years ago...

But seriously. It's 2019. Trump is embroiled in an impeachment scandal. He's just left an ally behind to be attacked. I can get why you don't want to deal with current events, but...there are current events. You can't keep rubbing the Clinton lamp to get out of the shit this dude is in. It's over. He won. Now we have to deal with the numerous giant piles of shit he keeps leaving everywhere. Keep up.


Why? None of those piles of shit are in smelling distance of me.


In that sense you shouldn't care who's president at all, but you do.
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Postby Telconi » Fri Oct 11, 2019 4:34 pm

Uiiop wrote:
Telconi wrote:
Well it's a loyalty thing. You cheer for your side because they're your side. And it's ultimately a content of who's side offers greater support.

I don't have to think he's great to say he's great. I just need to understand that the louder and more excitedly I cherr for him, the more likely he is to be President again come next term.

Pretty sure it's a quantity over quality thing but ok.


The two are intermingled. Quality gives the impression of quantity.
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Postby Stamp Out Trump » Fri Oct 11, 2019 4:34 pm

The Emerald Legion wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:
What has he done that is great?


Prevented Hillary Clinton from being president for starters. Driven the Democratic party literally insane for second.


I think Trump wishes every second of every day she'd won. He wanted to start his narcissistic news network, not become POTUS. Get super super rich like Murdoch. That's why he's failing so miserably at the job and has such pathetically low ratings in polls. Why his henchmen scum around into other countries for dirt on his opponents. Only another lowlife would think that is great and take part in it. Totally unAmerican. Donnie has quite a collection of them - but some of them are starting to make that dash to save themselves from extra prison time by speaking out. Let them speak.
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Postby Hatoraga » Fri Oct 11, 2019 4:34 pm

Anybody know that Trump now has a Twitch?

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Postby Valrifell » Fri Oct 11, 2019 4:34 pm

Telconi wrote:
Uiiop wrote:Pretty sure it's a quantity over quality thing but ok.


The two are intermingled. Quality gives the impression of quantity.


Uh
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Postby Telconi » Fri Oct 11, 2019 4:35 pm

Valrifell wrote:
Telconi wrote:
Why? None of those piles of shit are in smelling distance of me.


In that sense you shouldn't care who's president at all, but you do.


I forgot, policy is a bad reason to support a candidate. What metric would you recommend?
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Postby Mettaton-EX » Fri Oct 11, 2019 4:35 pm

The Emerald Legion wrote:
The Emerald Legion wrote:
Prevented Hillary Clinton from being president for starters. Driven the Democratic party literally insane for second.


The fuck does that even mean besides some meaningless buzzy way of denigrating others for disagreeing with you?


here, you quoted the wrong person, i fixed it for you :)
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Postby Uiiop » Fri Oct 11, 2019 4:35 pm

Telconi wrote:
Uiiop wrote:Pretty sure it's a quantity over quality thing but ok.


The two are intermingled. Quality gives the impression of quantity.

Impressions are fickle as fuck.
Impressions and loud stans didn't help Hilary.
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Postby Telconi » Fri Oct 11, 2019 4:36 pm

Uiiop wrote:
Telconi wrote:
The two are intermingled. Quality gives the impression of quantity.

Impressions are fickle as fuck.
Impressions and loud stans didn't help Hilary.


How do you know? It's possible she was helped by them and still failed.
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Postby Gormwood » Fri Oct 11, 2019 4:37 pm

Telconi wrote:
Uiiop wrote:He jumped in when people were talking about the former and not the latter so thanks for proving my point.


Well it's a loyalty thing. You cheer for your side because they're your side. And it's ultimately a content of who's side offers greater support.

I don't have to think he's great to say he's great. I just need to understand that the louder and more excitedly I cherr for him, the more likely he is to be President again come next term.

Usually you try not to make it clear you're baiting.
Bloodthirsty savages who call for violence against the Right while simultaneously being unarmed defenseless sissies who will get slaughtered by the gun-toting Right in a civil war.
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Postby Gormwood » Fri Oct 11, 2019 4:39 pm

Hatoraga wrote:Anybody know that Trump now has a Twitch?

More signs he's deteriorating- oh, a Twitch account.
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Postby Valrifell » Fri Oct 11, 2019 4:39 pm

Telconi wrote:
Valrifell wrote:
In that sense you shouldn't care who's president at all, but you do.


I forgot, policy is a bad reason to support a candidate. What metric would you recommend?


Well, for starters you should start including character worth, because if they're too busy being in it for themselves they're not going to be in it for you or your children*

(To clarify I mean your weapons)
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Postby Stamp Out Trump » Fri Oct 11, 2019 4:40 pm

Telconi wrote:
Uiiop wrote:He jumped in when people were talking about the former and not the latter so thanks for proving my point.


1. Well it's a loyalty thing. You cheer for your side because they're your side. And it's ultimately a content of who's side offers greater support.

2. I don't have to think he's great to say he's great. I just need to understand that the louder and more excitedly I cherr for him, the more likely he is to be President again come next term.


1. I'm for loyalty to the United States. Not Russia/N. Korea/Turkey/Saudi Arabia/Idiot in WH etc etc.

2. That's usually been known as a lie. Your problem is between needs and understanding wants then.
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Postby Telconi » Fri Oct 11, 2019 4:40 pm

Valrifell wrote:
Telconi wrote:
I forgot, policy is a bad reason to support a candidate. What metric would you recommend?


Well, for starters you should start including character worth, because if they're too busy being in it for themselves they're not going to be in it for you or your children*

(To clarify I mean your weapons)


Okay, and this changes the outcome how?
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Postby Uiiop » Fri Oct 11, 2019 4:41 pm

Telconi wrote:
Uiiop wrote:Impressions are fickle as fuck.
Impressions and loud stans didn't help Hilary.


How do you know? It's possible she was helped by them and still failed.

How do you know it has an effect at all?
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Postby The Emerald Legion » Fri Oct 11, 2019 4:41 pm

Cannot think of a name wrote:
The Emerald Legion wrote:
Are you really going to ignore things because they didn't happen yesterday?

Look man, if the best you got for your guy is he barely won an election three years ago...

But seriously. It's 2019. Trump is embroiled in an impeachment scandal. He's just left an ally behind to be attacked. I can get why you don't want to deal with current events, but...there are current events. You can't keep rubbing the Clinton lamp to get out of the shit this dude is in. It's over. He won. Now we have to deal with the numerous giant piles of shit he keeps leaving everywhere. Keep up.


You wanna talk 2019? Let's talk 2019.

He's embroiled in an impeachment scandal because the Democrats have been conjuring up bullshit 'Scandals' since day one. When he's actually impeached. It will be worth talking about, until then? It's political bullshit.

He's just left an 'Ally' who's being attacked by another ally. What the fuck do you want us to do? Fight Turkey over the Kurds? Turkey is part of NATO. The Kurds aren't. It sucks but it is what it is.
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Postby Stamp Out Trump » Fri Oct 11, 2019 4:42 pm

Valrifell wrote:
Telconi wrote:
The two are intermingled. Quality gives the impression of quantity.


Uh


He's talking more smoke and mirrors, less facts and truths.
Lick the Stamp.

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Postby Telconi » Fri Oct 11, 2019 4:42 pm

Uiiop wrote:
Telconi wrote:
How do you know? It's possible she was helped by them and still failed.

How do you know it has an effect at all?


Presumably every politician holding rallies indicates rallies are good. If they were bad, they probably would have stopped.
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ANTI:
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-Sexism
-Bigotry In All Forms
-Government Overreach
-Government Surveillance
-Freedom For Security Social Transactions
-Unnecessary Taxes
-Excessively Specific Government Programs
-Foreign Entanglements
-Religious Extremism
-Fascists Masquerading as "Social Justice Warriors"

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