MAGAThread XVI: Raising the Barr

[Zurkerx]

Trump will eventually stab everyone in the back: that's his persona. Trump did have potential: he could have tackled corruption. However and instead, he added to it. But I do agree more overall: unless he committed crimes (which we must prove first) that absolutely warrant impeachment, the 2020 Election is the best way to remove him from office. I take it you were once a Trump Supporter?

I've been sitting on the fence for about a year now beginning around the time of the Kavanaugh witch hunt and the Democrat-induced moral panic that followed. I have never been a Trump supporter, but I still distrust the mainstream of the Democratic Party, excluding Andrew Yang and Tulsi Gabbard. I've always been an independent, liberal centrist since before Trump's election in 2016. Even before that, I was pretty much a mainstream liberal/leftist and made no distinction between the two, but I was never a Democrat supporter. I may have walked away from the Democrats and the Western Left, but unlike Brandon Straka, I have opted not to jump on the right-wing Trump bandwagon in the process. I'm not going to stop calling myself a liberal for a number of reasons, even if my views have shifted radically over the years.

Hmm, so like a Blue Dog type Democrat? I feel your views would be closely aligned to the likes of Manchin though I could be wrong. In any case, let's assume neither Yang or Gabbard get the nomination. Who will you vote for then?

[Zurkerx]

Trump loses appeal to stop House subpoena of his tax documents.

Well that's going to be a tough lost for him. I suspect he'll appeal but it's probably not going to be taken up, especially since the Courts and Supreme Court don't curtail Subpoena Power usually. Of course, they can't release his tax returns into the public eye unless a vote is held since his returns are private. I suspect they'll do so after examining them for evidence and legislative purposes.

[San Lumen]

Trump loses appeal to stop House subpoena of his tax documents.

Well that's going to be a tough lost for him. I suspect he'll appeal but it's probably not going to be taken up, especially since the Courts and Supreme Court don't curtail Subpoena Power usually. Of course, they can't release his tax returns into the public eye unless a vote is held since his returns are private. I suspect they'll do so after examining them for evidence and legislative purposes.

There must be something he's hiding in them since he's going to such effort to block them. They will come out and i suspect its something that will damage Trump with his base.

[The Emerald Legion]

Trump loses appeal to stop House subpoena of his tax documents.

Well that's going to be a tough lost for him. I suspect he'll appeal but it's probably not going to be taken up, especially since the Courts and Supreme Court don't curtail Subpoena Power usually. Of course, they can't release his tax returns into the public eye unless a vote is held since his returns are private. I suspect they'll do so after examining them for evidence and legislative purposes.

There must be something he's hiding in them since he's going to such effort to block them. They will come out and i suspect its something that will damage Trump with his base.

I doubt it. Issue is handing any material to people who want to twist it to fuck you over is a bad idea.

[San Lumen]

There must be something he's hiding in them since he's going to such effort to block them. They will come out and i suspect its something that will damage Trump with his base.

I doubt it. Issue is handing any material to people who want to twist it to fuck you over is a bad idea.

Yeah its all a plot to oust him just like the impeachment inquiry is nothing. Here's a hypothetical for you. Lets say im Governor of your state. Your my likely Republican opponent in the next election. I call up the District attorney of your county or the Attorney General of the state asking for a favor just like what Trump did on the call. I then do it publicly at a press conference. You'd have no issue with that?

[Gormwood]

Trump loses appeal to stop House subpoena of his tax documents.

Well that's going to be a tough lost for him. I suspect he'll appeal but it's probably not going to be taken up, especially since the Courts and Supreme Court don't curtail Subpoena Power usually. Of course, they can't release his tax returns into the public eye unless a vote is held since his returns are private. I suspect they'll do so after examining them for evidence and legislative purposes.

There must be something he's hiding in them since he's going to such effort to block them. They will come out and i suspect its something that will damage Trump with his base.

If there is anything damning it would be a rather small chance. Most likely it's about Donny trying to shelter his wet paper ego because the tax returns would expose his billionaire bragging to be a sham.

[San Lumen]

There must be something he's hiding in them since he's going to such effort to block them. They will come out and i suspect its something that will damage Trump with his base.

If there is anything damning it would be a rather small chance. Most likely it's about Donny trying to shelter his wet paper ego because the tax returns would expose his billionaire bragging to be a sham.

I have doubts that's the only thing. But we wont know until we see them

[Ifreann]

Trump loses appeal to stop House subpoena of his tax documents.

Well that's going to be a tough lost for him. I suspect he'll appeal but it's probably not going to be taken up, especially since the Courts and Supreme Court don't curtail Subpoena Power usually. Of course, they can't release his tax returns into the public eye unless a vote is held since his returns are private. I suspect they'll do so after examining them for evidence and legislative purposes.

There must be something he's hiding in them since he's going to such effort to block them. They will come out and i suspect its something that will damage Trump with his base.

I'm pretty persuaded by the idea that Trump's tax returns would make him look less rich than he wants people to think he is, both because he just isn't that rich and also because apparently it's just the nature of being in real estate that sometimes your tax returns show huge losses, unrealised assets or something.

Plus there's a fair chance that he's fighting the House just to be obstinate.

[The Emerald Legion]

I doubt it. Issue is handing any material to people who want to twist it to fuck you over is a bad idea.

Yeah its all a plot to oust him just like the impeachment inquiry is nothing. Here's a hypothetical for you. Lets say im Governor of your state. Your my likely Republican opponent in the next election. I call up the District attorney of your county or the Attorney General of the state asking for a favor just like what Trump did on the call. I then do it publicly at a press conference. You'd have no issue with that?

Not at all as long as your favor is with regards to investigating an actual crime.

Of course assuming I didn't commit the crime I get to grin as your investigation falls apart.

[Gormwood]

If there is anything damning it would be a rather small chance. Most likely it's about Donny trying to shelter his wet paper ego because the tax returns would expose his billionaire bragging to be a sham.

I have doubts that's the only thing. But we wont know until we see them

Petty Is As Petty Does. It's quite within Donny's character to painfully hide his tax returns because it would ruin his billionaire image more than it would expose how deep in hock he is with Russian oligarchs.

[San Lumen]

There must be something he's hiding in them since he's going to such effort to block them. They will come out and i suspect its something that will damage Trump with his base.

I'm pretty persuaded by the idea that Trump's tax returns would make him look less rich than he wants people to think he is, both because he just isn't that rich and also because apparently it's just the nature of being in real estate that sometimes your tax returns show huge losses, unrealised assets or something.

Plus there's a fair chance that he's fighting the House just to be obstinate.

Thats very possible. This is a man who said Democrats are trying to overthrow the government at his event in Minnesota among other things. That is very dangerous talk and straight out of a dictatorship yet few are talking about it.

[Ifreann]

I'm pretty persuaded by the idea that Trump's tax returns would make him look less rich than he wants people to think he is, both because he just isn't that rich and also because apparently it's just the nature of being in real estate that sometimes your tax returns show huge losses, unrealised assets or something.

Plus there's a fair chance that he's fighting the House just to be obstinate.

Thats very possible. This is a man who said Democrats are trying to overthrow the government at his event in Minnesota among other things. That is very dangerous talk and straight out of a dictatorship yet few are talking about it.

I'm betting plenty of people are talking about it.

[The Emerald Legion]

I'm pretty persuaded by the idea that Trump's tax returns would make him look less rich than he wants people to think he is, both because he just isn't that rich and also because apparently it's just the nature of being in real estate that sometimes your tax returns show huge losses, unrealised assets or something.

Plus there's a fair chance that he's fighting the House just to be obstinate.

Thats very possible. This is a man who said Democrats are trying to overthrow the government at his event in Minnesota among other things. That is very dangerous talk and straight out of a dictatorship yet few are talking about it.

Perhaps the Democrats should stop trying to overthrow our government then.

[San Lumen]

Thats very possible. This is a man who said Democrats are trying to overthrow the government at his event in Minnesota among other things. That is very dangerous talk and straight out of a dictatorship yet few are talking about it.

I'm betting plenty of people are talking about it.

he also said Democrats know they cannot win a fair election and accused election boards last year of fudging numbers in last years election. I work for the Board of Elections and I can say with confidence such talk is not only dangerous its total bollocks

[San Lumen]

Thats very possible. This is a man who said Democrats are trying to overthrow the government at his event in Minnesota among other things. That is very dangerous talk and straight out of a dictatorship yet few are talking about it.

Perhaps the Democrats should stop trying to overthrow our government then.

Yeah how dare we hold the president accountable for violating the law and have any oversight. Elections have consequences.

[Ifreann]

Thats very possible. This is a man who said Democrats are trying to overthrow the government at his event in Minnesota among other things. That is very dangerous talk and straight out of a dictatorship yet few are talking about it.

Perhaps the Democrats should stop trying to overthrow our government then.

Stop messing with Lumen, you know full well that removing Trump isn't overthrowing the government.

[Zurkerx]

There must be something he's hiding in them since he's going to such effort to block them. They will come out and i suspect its something that will damage Trump with his base.

I'm pretty persuaded by the idea that Trump's tax returns would make him look less rich than he wants people to think he is, both because he just isn't that rich and also because apparently it's just the nature of being in real estate that sometimes your tax returns show huge losses, unrealised assets or something.

Plus there's a fair chance that he's fighting the House just to be obstinate.

It most certainly will hurt his fragile ego, especially if said returns show he isn't as rich as he claims, which, is fine if he didn't lie about his net worth. Reportedly too, he's been accused of not donating nearly as much as he claims so his returns will show how much he has given. But yeah, the real estate industry has huge losses; it's part of the business.

[Spirit of Hope]

Thats very possible. This is a man who said Democrats are trying to overthrow the government at his event in Minnesota among other things. That is very dangerous talk and straight out of a dictatorship yet few are talking about it.

Perhaps the Democrats should stop trying to overthrow our government then.

Wait, the Democrats are trying to overthrow the government? What government are they going to replace it with? Or do you mean they're going to use the Constitution to legally remove the president and replace him with his running mate?

[Vassenor]

Trump will eventually stab everyone in the back: that's his persona. Trump did have potential: he could have tackled corruption. However and instead, he added to it. But I do agree more overall: unless he committed crimes (which we must prove first) that absolutely warrant impeachment, the 2020 Election is the best way to remove him from office. I take it you were once a Trump Supporter?

I've been sitting on the fence for about a year now beginning around the time of the Kavanaugh witch hunt and the Democrat-induced moral panic that followed. I have never been a Trump supporter, but I still distrust the mainstream of the Democratic Party, excluding Andrew Yang and Tulsi Gabbard. I've always been an independent, liberal centrist since before Trump's election in 2016. Even before that, I was pretty much a mainstream liberal/leftist and made no distinction between the two, but I was never a Democrat supporter. I may have walked away from the Democrats and the Western Left, but unlike Brandon Straka, I have opted not to jump on the right-wing Trump bandwagon in the process. I'm not going to stop calling myself a liberal for a number of reasons, even if my views have shifted radically over the years.

Yet you are happy to parrot his rhetoric about witch hunts.

[The Emerald Legion]

Perhaps the Democrats should stop trying to overthrow our government then.

Stop messing with Lumen, you know full well that removing Trump isn't overthrowing the government.

I wasn't talking about removing Trump. He's just a proverbial brick. An orange, toupee wearing brick tossed through Washington's window.

I was more talking about how they are dead set on piece by piece destroying our nation.

[San Lumen]

Stop messing with Lumen, you know full well that removing Trump isn't overthrowing the government.

I wasn't talking about removing Trump. He's just a proverbial brick. An orange, toupee wearing brick tossed through Washington's window.

I was more talking about how they are dead set on piece by piece destroying our nation.

They were voted in via a free and fair election as well as every democratic statewide official and state legislator

and Trump isn't? Getting rid of every environmental regulation under the sun? gutting the migratory bird and endangered species act, Threatening LGBT rights, calling into question outcomes of free and fair elections?

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

Today's MAGAThread: "Peaceful transition of power between presidents is heresy unless it goes the way I want it. Let's shell Congress."
Also I think GOP should rename themselves the Imperial Rule Assistance Association to jive better with their current anti-Republican policies.

[Ifreann]

I'm pretty persuaded by the idea that Trump's tax returns would make him look less rich than he wants people to think he is, both because he just isn't that rich and also because apparently it's just the nature of being in real estate that sometimes your tax returns show huge losses, unrealised assets or something.

Plus there's a fair chance that he's fighting the House just to be obstinate.

It most certainly will hurt his fragile ego, especially if said returns show he isn't as rich as he claims, which, is fine if he didn't lie about his net worth. Reportedly too, he's been accused of not donating nearly as much as he claims so his returns will show how much he has given. But yeah, the real estate industry has huge losses; it's part of the business.

Yeah, I remember some stories from around the election about Trump promising to donate fat stacks of cash to all manner of things that never materialised. I wouldn't be surprised if it turns out he's far from charitable.

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Stop messing with Lumen, you know full well that removing Trump isn't overthrowing the government.

I wasn't talking about removing Trump. He's just a proverbial brick. An orange, toupee wearing brick tossed through Washington's window.

I was more talking about how they are dead set on piece by piece destroying our nation.

The rolling eyes smiley would be a gross understatement of my reaction.

[Spirit of Hope]

Former Ambassadorto the Ukrainian speaks to the House. Apparently she isn't happy with be taken out of her job for no reason, and decided to define the ban on goverment officials talking to the House.

[Gormwood]

Former Ambassadorto the Ukrainian speaks to the House. Apparently she isn't happy with be taken out of her job for no reason, and decided to define the ban on goverment officials talking to the House.

And so far it's looking like the two Rudy goons who got busted at the airport trying to flee the country wanted her ousted from the position so they started a rumor campaign that she talked bad about Donny which eventually worked of course.