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Postby Telconi » Thu Oct 10, 2019 2:27 pm

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I'd want a Democrat removed from office for being in the office whilst a Democrat.

In other words only those I like should be allowed to hold office. Thanks for once again confirming you want a one party state that can never lose power


Isn't that the point of impeachment, to remove people from office if they do bad things?
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Postby Necroghastia » Thu Oct 10, 2019 2:29 pm

Telconi wrote:
San Lumen wrote:In other words only those I like should be allowed to hold office. Thanks for once again confirming you want a one party state that can never lose power


Isn't that the point of impeachment, to remove people from office if they do bad things?


So all Democrats are criminals, is what you're saying.
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Postby Chernoslavia » Thu Oct 10, 2019 2:29 pm

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Ah, so you support the repeal of the First Amendment.

The only Amendment that matters to him is the Second. You can come to a conclusion from there.


The 2nd Amendment matters the most. No second amendment, no 1st 3rd or any other bill of right.
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Quite a leap you've made there.


I don't see how.


Well there's the part where nobody mentioned the amendment, much less it's repeal. There's the part where someone is not entitled to be President under the 1st amendment. And there's the part where you're just pulling nonsense out of your ass for no apparent reason.
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Postby Telconi » Thu Oct 10, 2019 2:30 pm

Necroghastia wrote:
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Isn't that the point of impeachment, to remove people from office if they do bad things?


So all Democrats are criminals, is what you're saying.


Criminality is not a requirement for impeachment.
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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Thu Oct 10, 2019 2:30 pm

Telconi wrote:I'd want a Democrat Catholic removed from office for being in the office whilst a Democrat Catholic.

Oops there went JFK's chances for Presidency.

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Postby Telconi » Thu Oct 10, 2019 2:31 pm

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:
Telconi wrote:I'd want a Democrat Catholic removed from office for being in the office whilst a Democrat Catholic.

Oops there went JFK's chances for Presidency.


Well he's dead, so he doesn't presently have a chance.
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Postby Necroghastia » Thu Oct 10, 2019 2:31 pm

Telconi wrote:
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I don't see how.


Well there's the part where nobody mentioned the amendment, much less it's repeal. There's the part where someone is not entitled to be President under the 1st amendment. And there's the part where you're just pulling nonsense out of your ass for no apparent reason.


A person being removed from office solely due to political views is something that could only be accomplished by repealing the 1A. Don't pretend you didn't realize that.
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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Thu Oct 10, 2019 2:32 pm

Telconi wrote:
Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:Oops there went JFK's chances for Presidency.


Well he's dead, so he doesn't presently have a chance.

Notice the "went". I've emphasised the word for you.

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Postby Telconi » Thu Oct 10, 2019 2:33 pm

Necroghastia wrote:
Telconi wrote:
Well there's the part where nobody mentioned the amendment, much less it's repeal. There's the part where someone is not entitled to be President under the 1st amendment. And there's the part where you're just pulling nonsense out of your ass for no apparent reason.


A person being removed from office solely due to political views is something that could only be accomplished by repealing the 1A. Don't pretend you didn't realize that.


I'm sorry, I don't have weird precognition for people's nonsense.
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Postby Telconi » Thu Oct 10, 2019 2:34 pm

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:
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Well he's dead, so he doesn't presently have a chance.

Notice the "went". I've emphasised the word for you.


He didn't have a chance prior to my post, or your nonsensical editing of it.
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Postby San Lumen » Thu Oct 10, 2019 2:35 pm

Telconi wrote:
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So all Democrats are criminals, is what you're saying.


Criminality is not a requirement for impeachment.

I dont think many would take kindly to removing someone from office simply because the opposite party doesnt like that they won. What your saying is if one party wins every statewide office and the legislature is the opposite party they should remove every statewide official in the line of succession until someone of the their party takes the helm. That's the equivalent of a coup and saying we dont respect the outcome of elections
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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Thu Oct 10, 2019 2:36 pm

Today's MAGAThread: "Advocacy for fifth columnism is fine if you are against Democrats."

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Postby Telconi » Thu Oct 10, 2019 2:37 pm

San Lumen wrote:
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Criminality is not a requirement for impeachment.

I dont think many would take kindly to removing someone from office simply because the opposite party doesnt like that they won. What your saying is if one party wins every statewide office and the legislature is the opposite party they should remove every statewide official in the line of succession until someone of the their party takes the helm. That's the equivalent of a coup and saying we dont respect the outcome of elections


I don't respect the outcome of elections that Democrats win. So. Yes.
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Postby Telconi » Thu Oct 10, 2019 2:39 pm

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:Today's MAGAThread: "Advocacy for fifth columnism is fine if you are against Democrats."


Fifth columnist is the sabotage of your own group to benefit enemies. This proposal is distinctly the opposite.
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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Thu Oct 10, 2019 2:40 pm

Telconi wrote:
Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:Today's MAGAThread: "Advocacy for fifth columnism is fine if you are against Democrats."


Fifth columnist is the sabotage of your own group to benefit enemies. This proposal is distinctly the opposite.

I think we have different definitions on what constitutes an enemy to the United States. <.>

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Postby San Lumen » Thu Oct 10, 2019 2:42 pm

Telconi wrote:
San Lumen wrote:I dont think many would take kindly to removing someone from office simply because the opposite party doesnt like that they won. What your saying is if one party wins every statewide office and the legislature is the opposite party they should remove every statewide official in the line of succession until someone of the their party takes the helm. That's the equivalent of a coup and saying we dont respect the outcome of elections


I don't respect the outcome of elections that Democrats win. So. Yes.

yeah how dare anyone who has a different opinion be allowed to vote but you've made that position quite clear over the years.

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Postby Telconi » Thu Oct 10, 2019 2:43 pm

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:
Telconi wrote:
Fifth columnist is the sabotage of your own group to benefit enemies. This proposal is distinctly the opposite.

I think we have different definitions on what constitutes an enemy to the United States. <.>


I think so.
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Postby Gormwood » Thu Oct 10, 2019 2:43 pm

To bring back the thread from the baiting...

Lindsey Graham dishes on Trump in hoax calls with Russians

The substance of Graham’s conversation with Stolyarov, who was posing as Turkish Defense Minister Hulusi Akar, is newly relevant in light of the South Carolina senator’s push for sanctions on Turkey as punishment for their offensive against the Kurds in northern Syria. Graham labeled the Kurds a “threat” to Turkey in the call, seemingly contradicting what he has said publicly in recent days.

Graham also mentions Trump’s personal interest in a “Turkish bank case” in the call that appears to refer to a U.S. case involving Reza Zarrab, an Iranian-Turkish gold trader and client of Trump’s personal lawyer Rudy Giuliani. Bloomberg reported on Wednesday that Trump had asked then-Secretary of State Rex Tillerson in 2017 to help persuade the Justice Department to drop the Zarrab case.

So it looks like the assfucking of the Kurds may have a bit to do with trying to butter up Reggie.
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Postby Telconi » Thu Oct 10, 2019 2:43 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Telconi wrote:
I don't respect the outcome of elections that Democrats win. So. Yes.

yeah how dare anyone who has a different opinion be allowed to vote but you've made that position quite clear over the years.


Nothing wrong with having a different opinion. There are plenty of people whom I disagree with who are still decent human beings.
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Postby Gig em Aggies » Thu Oct 10, 2019 4:01 pm

Telconi wrote:
San Lumen wrote:yeah how dare anyone who has a different opinion be allowed to vote but you've made that position quite clear over the years.


Nothing wrong with having a different opinion. There are plenty of people whom I disagree with who are still decent human beings.

even though it has nothing to do with Trump I think this is how Hollywood and the DNC as well as the GOP should look like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQriDfZkhmg
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Postby Salandriagado » Thu Oct 10, 2019 4:26 pm

Chernoslavia wrote:
Gormwood wrote:The only Amendment that matters to him is the Second. You can come to a conclusion from there.


The 2nd Amendment matters the most. No second amendment, no 1st 3rd or any other bill of right.


*Looks at Europe* Wrong again.
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Postby Little St James Island » Thu Oct 10, 2019 4:34 pm

Necroghastia wrote:
Telconi wrote:
Isn't that the point of impeachment, to remove people from office if they do bad things?


So all Democrats are criminals, is what you're saying.


That reminds me, how is Mr. Trump doing today? Has he caused any wars to start up lately? Hmmmmmmmm?

Telconi wrote:
San Lumen wrote:yeah how dare anyone who has a different opinion be allowed to vote but you've made that position quite clear over the years.


Nothing wrong with having a different opinion. There are plenty of people whom I disagree with who are still decent human beings.


Attaboy!
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