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Postby Bombadil » Wed Jun 26, 2019 5:25 pm

What the knitting community has started..

Reddit has 'quarantined'The_Donald..

Reddit has taken steps to “quarantine” the largest pro-Donald Trump community on its site, The_Donald, due to “repeated rule-breaking behavior” and, in recent days, “encouragement of violence towards police officers and public officials in Oregon”.

Visitors to the The_Donald message board, which describes itself as “a never-ending rally dedicated to the 45th President of the United States, Donald J Trump” and has more than 750,000 subscribers, will be greeted with a message about the reasons for the quarantine before they can click through to the site. The quarantine also restricts the message board, known as a subreddit, from generating revenue and limits its popular posts from reaching an audience in other parts of Reddit.

“We are sensitive to what could be considered political speech, however, recent behaviors including threats against the police and public figures is content that is prohibited by our violence policy,” a company spokeswoman said in a statement. “As a result, we have actioned individual users and quarantined the subreddit.”
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Postby Major-Tom » Wed Jun 26, 2019 5:27 pm

Bombadil wrote:What the knitting community has started..

Reddit has 'quarantined'The_Donald..

Reddit has taken steps to “quarantine” the largest pro-Donald Trump community on its site, The_Donald, due to “repeated rule-breaking behavior” and, in recent days, “encouragement of violence towards police officers and public officials in Oregon”.

Visitors to the The_Donald message board, which describes itself as “a never-ending rally dedicated to the 45th President of the United States, Donald J Trump” and has more than 750,000 subscribers, will be greeted with a message about the reasons for the quarantine before they can click through to the site. The quarantine also restricts the message board, known as a subreddit, from generating revenue and limits its popular posts from reaching an audience in other parts of Reddit.

“We are sensitive to what could be considered political speech, however, recent behaviors including threats against the police and public figures is content that is prohibited by our violence policy,” a company spokeswoman said in a statement. “As a result, we have actioned individual users and quarantined the subreddit.”


That subreddit is a cesspool dedicated to the dissemination of false information and rhetoric that promotes violence. Good fucking riddance.

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Postby Bombadil » Wed Jun 26, 2019 5:31 pm

Major-Tom wrote:
Bombadil wrote:What the knitting community has started..

Reddit has 'quarantined'The_Donald..

Reddit has taken steps to “quarantine” the largest pro-Donald Trump community on its site, The_Donald, due to “repeated rule-breaking behavior” and, in recent days, “encouragement of violence towards police officers and public officials in Oregon”.

Visitors to the The_Donald message board, which describes itself as “a never-ending rally dedicated to the 45th President of the United States, Donald J Trump” and has more than 750,000 subscribers, will be greeted with a message about the reasons for the quarantine before they can click through to the site. The quarantine also restricts the message board, known as a subreddit, from generating revenue and limits its popular posts from reaching an audience in other parts of Reddit.

“We are sensitive to what could be considered political speech, however, recent behaviors including threats against the police and public figures is content that is prohibited by our violence policy,” a company spokeswoman said in a statement. “As a result, we have actioned individual users and quarantined the subreddit.”


That subreddit is a cesspool dedicated to the dissemination of false information and rhetoric that promotes violence. Good fucking riddance.


Oh the outcry of conspiracy there'll be if and when Trump loses in 2020, that tech companies and the deep state combined to illegally oust him from office. See how they shut down free speech to achieve their evil ends of turning America into.. whatever it is they're turning it into.
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Postby Bombadil » Wed Jun 26, 2019 6:29 pm

China..

“China’s economy is going down the tubes – they want to make a deal. You have another $325bn that I haven’t taxed yet – it’s ripe for taxing, for putting tariffs on,”

Vietnam

Trump also hinted he might impose tariffs on Vietnam, describing the country as “the single worst abuser of everybody. A lot of companies are moving to Vietnam, but Vietnam takes advantage of us even worse than China. So there’s a very interesting situation going on there,”

Germany

“So Germany is paying Russia billions and billions of dollars for energy, okay,” he said. “So they are giving Russia billions of dollars yet we are supposed to protect Germany and Germany is delinquent! Okay?”

Japan

“If Japan is attacked, we will fight World War III. We will go in and protect them with our lives and with our treasure,” he said. “But if we’re attacked, Japan doesn’t have to help us. They can watch it on a Sony television.”

Great way to head off to the G20.. but what about Russia..?

“I’ll have a very good conversation with him [Putin],” Trump told reporters. “What I say to him is none of your business.”
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Postby Proctopeo » Wed Jun 26, 2019 6:34 pm

Bombadil wrote:
Major-Tom wrote:
That subreddit is a cesspool dedicated to the dissemination of false information and rhetoric that promotes violence. Good fucking riddance.


Oh the outcry of conspiracy there'll be if and when Trump loses in 2020, that tech companies and the deep state combined to illegally oust him from office. See how they shut down free speech to achieve their evil ends of turning America into.. whatever it is they're turning it into.

Well, to be fair, we have strong reason to believe that Google, at least, is gonna be doing some shady conspiracy shit. Hell, there's good reason to believe they already are.

Though it's likely that some of their information suppression will be (or maybe already is) directed against pro-trust-busting Democrats too.
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Postby Nakena » Wed Jun 26, 2019 6:34 pm

Bombadil wrote:What the knitting community has started..


I doubt theres a direct connection but it seems to be part of a bigger trend.

Bombadil wrote:Reddit has 'quarantined'The_Donald..

Reddit has taken steps to “quarantine” the largest pro-Donald Trump community on its site, The_Donald, due to “repeated rule-breaking behavior” and, in recent days, “encouragement of violence towards police officers and public officials in Oregon”.

Visitors to the The_Donald message board, which describes itself as “a never-ending rally dedicated to the 45th President of the United States, Donald J Trump” and has more than 750,000 subscribers, will be greeted with a message about the reasons for the quarantine before they can click through to the site. The quarantine also restricts the message board, known as a subreddit, from generating revenue and limits its popular posts from reaching an audience in other parts of Reddit.

“We are sensitive to what could be considered political speech, however, recent behaviors including threats against the police and public figures is content that is prohibited by our violence policy,” a company spokeswoman said in a statement. “As a result, we have actioned individual users and quarantined the subreddit.”


I believe Reddit had its own motives in this case and it I can imagine how it could be related to the Oregon issue. Quarantine does not equal banhammering. We'll see how it is developing. I refrain from jumping onto conclusions for now.

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Postby The South Falls » Wed Jun 26, 2019 6:37 pm

Ah, got 'em T_D is a hive of cancer.
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Postby Nakena » Wed Jun 26, 2019 6:39 pm

The South Falls wrote:Ah, got 'em T_D is a hive of cancer.


It has been around for a long time and everyone knows what it is. So its nothing new. But if it would get banned, that could be a very big signal. A quarantine is a more sensible and reasonable response until they have fixed the problems with rogue elements there inside who call to violence and engage in rule breaking behaviour.

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Postby Bombadil » Wed Jun 26, 2019 6:42 pm

Proctopeo wrote:
Bombadil wrote:
Oh the outcry of conspiracy there'll be if and when Trump loses in 2020, that tech companies and the deep state combined to illegally oust him from office. See how they shut down free speech to achieve their evil ends of turning America into.. whatever it is they're turning it into.

Well, to be fair, we have strong reason to believe that Google, at least, is gonna be doing some shady conspiracy shit. Hell, there's good reason to believe they already are.

Though it's likely that some of their information suppression will be (or maybe already is) directed against pro-trust-busting Democrats too.


I know there's some video floating around by that shitty media that's constantly caught doctoring footage as they try catch people out where some Google executive talks about fixing algorithms that's put forward as evidence they're trying to suppress Trump.. hence above I note how you can see the topic trends as they coalesce into talking points expressed here.
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Postby Proctopeo » Wed Jun 26, 2019 6:56 pm

Bombadil wrote:
Proctopeo wrote:Well, to be fair, we have strong reason to believe that Google, at least, is gonna be doing some shady conspiracy shit. Hell, there's good reason to believe they already are.

Though it's likely that some of their information suppression will be (or maybe already is) directed against pro-trust-busting Democrats too.


I know there's some video floating around by that shitty media that's constantly caught doctoring footage as they try catch people out where some Google executive talks about fixing algorithms that's put forward as evidence they're trying to suppress Trump..

The exec in question responding incredibly quickly, and the video being removed from Youtube, very much lend credibility to it.
It's the Streisand effect, in a sense, but instead of just making the information more well-known after being effectively told to not look for it, it also arouses further suspicion that maybe, just maybe, they were right this time.

I'd review the footage myself, but it's not only been removed from Youtube, but now Vimeo as well. I think it might be still on their site, though, so I'll check it there.

Also, calling it "fixing algorithms" is like calling lootboxes a "surprise mechanic", but with a bonus Freudian slip. Though, speaking of algorithms, you know Google's suggestions when you type something in? Yeah, certain phrases (like, for example, "hillary clinton emails") give no recommendations. It's not just a weird quirk of search engines or anything, every other search engine I checked, besides Ask, gave recommendations, for this example phrase
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Postby Bombadil » Wed Jun 26, 2019 7:19 pm

Proctopeo wrote:
Bombadil wrote:
I know there's some video floating around by that shitty media that's constantly caught doctoring footage as they try catch people out where some Google executive talks about fixing algorithms that's put forward as evidence they're trying to suppress Trump..

The exec in question responding incredibly quickly, and the video being removed from Youtube, very much lend credibility to it.
It's the Streisand effect, in a sense, but instead of just making the information more well-known after being effectively told to not look for it, it also arouses further suspicion that maybe, just maybe, they were right this time.

I'd review the footage myself, but it's not only been removed from Youtube, but now Vimeo as well. I think it might be still on their site, though, so I'll check it there.

Also, calling it "fixing algorithms" is like calling lootboxes a "surprise mechanic", but with a bonus Freudian slip. Though, speaking of algorithms, you know Google's suggestions when you type something in? Yeah, certain phrases (like, for example, "hillary clinton emails") give no recommendations. It's not just a weird quirk of search engines or anything, every other search engine I checked, besides Ask, gave recommendations, for this example phrase


I'd imagine what she was actually saying is similar to what Zuckerberg has just noted in Aspen.. that the proliferation of fake media - which was heavily skewed against Clinton and for Trump in 2016 - is an issue regardless of who benefits to a degree, and that they're looking to find ways to fix this.

Project Veritas is known for its doctoring, contextual misinformation and general bullshit.
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Postby Proctopeo » Wed Jun 26, 2019 7:26 pm

Bombadil wrote:
Proctopeo wrote:The exec in question responding incredibly quickly, and the video being removed from Youtube, very much lend credibility to it.
It's the Streisand effect, in a sense, but instead of just making the information more well-known after being effectively told to not look for it, it also arouses further suspicion that maybe, just maybe, they were right this time.

I'd review the footage myself, but it's not only been removed from Youtube, but now Vimeo as well. I think it might be still on their site, though, so I'll check it there.

Also, calling it "fixing algorithms" is like calling lootboxes a "surprise mechanic", but with a bonus Freudian slip. Though, speaking of algorithms, you know Google's suggestions when you type something in? Yeah, certain phrases (like, for example, "hillary clinton emails") give no recommendations. It's not just a weird quirk of search engines or anything, every other search engine I checked, besides Ask, gave recommendations, for this example phrase


I'd imagine what she was actually saying is similar to what Zuckerberg has just noted in Aspen.. that the proliferation of fake media - which was heavily skewed against Clinton and for Trump in 2016 - is an issue regardless of who benefits to a degree, and that they're looking to find ways to fix this.

That's rather optimistic of you.
I'd rather not have big conglomerates be the ones to decide what constitutes "fake media", but instead the general public. Perhaps through some sort of website where articles can be rated based on accuracy, bias, and quality, with these scores then being used to create an aggregate score for journalists, editors, and media outlets.
Btw, Zuckerberg and Facebook aren't good examples to follow.

Project Veritas is known for its doctoring, contextual misinformation and general bullshit.

Broken clocks are right twice a day, and given the rather extreme reaction to the video by Google, Youtube, and now Vimeo, I think it's likely we're seeing one of those times where the broken clock isn't only right, but hits the nail on the head a little too hard.
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Postby Bombadil » Wed Jun 26, 2019 7:34 pm

Proctopeo wrote:
Bombadil wrote:
I'd imagine what she was actually saying is similar to what Zuckerberg has just noted in Aspen.. that the proliferation of fake media - which was heavily skewed against Clinton and for Trump in 2016 - is an issue regardless of who benefits to a degree, and that they're looking to find ways to fix this.

That's rather optimistic of you.
I'd rather not have big conglomerates be the ones to decide what constitutes "fake media", but instead the general public. Perhaps through some sort of website where articles can be rated based on accuracy, bias, and quality, with these scores then being used to create an aggregate score for journalists and media outlets.
Btw, Zuckerberg and Facebook aren't good examples to follow.

Project Veritas is known for its doctoring, contextual misinformation and general bullshit.

Broken clocks are right twice a day, and given the rather extreme reaction to the video by Google, Youtube, and now Vimeo, I think it's likely we're seeing one of those times where the broken clock isn't only right, but hits the nail on the head a little too hard.


She responded on Medium.. hardly a massive action, and what she said is..

“Project Veritas has edited the video to make it seem that I am a powerful executive who was confirming that Google is working to alter the 2020 election.

"On both counts, this is absolute, unadulterated nonsense, of course.

“In a casual restaurant setting, I was explaining how Google’s Trust and Safety team (a team I used to work on) is working to help prevent the types of online foreign interference that happened in 2016.

“Google has been very public about the work that our teams have done since 2016 on this, so it’s hardly a revelation.”


Seems entirely reasonable to me knowing the history of Project Veritas.
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Postby Proctopeo » Wed Jun 26, 2019 7:37 pm

Bombadil wrote:
Proctopeo wrote:That's rather optimistic of you.
I'd rather not have big conglomerates be the ones to decide what constitutes "fake media", but instead the general public. Perhaps through some sort of website where articles can be rated based on accuracy, bias, and quality, with these scores then being used to create an aggregate score for journalists and media outlets.
Btw, Zuckerberg and Facebook aren't good examples to follow.


Broken clocks are right twice a day, and given the rather extreme reaction to the video by Google, Youtube, and now Vimeo, I think it's likely we're seeing one of those times where the broken clock isn't only right, but hits the nail on the head a little too hard.


She responded on Medium.. hardly a massive action, and what she said is..

She's not the only person to respond. Perhaps one of the few with words, though.

“Project Veritas has edited the video to make it seem that I am a powerful executive who was confirming that Google is working to alter the 2020 election.

"On both counts, this is absolute, unadulterated nonsense, of course.

“In a casual restaurant setting, I was explaining how Google’s Trust and Safety team (a team I used to work on) is working to help prevent the types of online foreign interference that happened in 2016.

“Google has been very public about the work that our teams have done since 2016 on this, so it’s hardly a revelation.”


Seems entirely reasonable to me knowing the history of Project Veritas.

Sorry, still more inclined to believe the ones being censored than the ones doing the censoring. It's the principle of the thing.
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I doubt that the suffering on this world has been much increased or decreased through the actions of Donald Trump. Some of his predecessors have an argueably worse record in this regard.


Except now, he's the lynchpin of a worldwide movement for some form of libertarianism, one that recognizes there is virtue in ganging up and beating oligarchs senseless now so they can wreak havoc later, instead of an isolated figure like Nixon.

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Trump whining that India has responded to US tariffs by putting tariffs on US products. India First.
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>assuming he actually did those things
Obstruction of justice, maybe.


He was caught on camera bragging about committing sexual assault and literally everyone saw it.
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Postby Vassenor » Thu Jun 27, 2019 12:22 am

First American Empire wrote:
Northern Davincia wrote:>assuming he actually did those things
Obstruction of justice, maybe.


He was caught on camera bragging about committing sexual assault and literally everyone saw it.


Something something just locker room talk something something boys will be boys
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:rofl: It's a tongue in check quip. Is humor/snark really lost on many people?
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:rofl: It's a tongue in check quip. Is humor/snark really lost on many people?


Translation: "Oh shit they said something bad pretend it's a joke"
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Thu Jun 27, 2019 5:41 am

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Grinning Dragon wrote: :rofl: It's a tongue in check quip. Is humor/snark really lost on many people?


Translation: "Oh shit they said something bad pretend it's a joke"


It really clearly is though.
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Washington Resistance Army wrote:
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Translation: "Oh shit they said something bad pretend it's a joke"


It really clearly is though.


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Washington Resistance Army wrote:
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Translation: "Oh shit they said something bad pretend it's a joke"


It really clearly is though.

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Funny how it's only ever sarcasm when a Republican says something problematic. :roll:
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