MAGAThread XVI: Raising the Barr

[Zurkerx]

Trump wants to impeach Nancy Pelosi, Adam Schiff, and Mitt Romney. Probably someone else as well, I have lost count of how many he's accused of treason by now.

Well, anyone that doesn't submit to him respect him is practically a traitor. Hmm, strongman politics at its finest. At this point, I wouldn't be surprised if he has an Enemies List like Nixon had.

https://edition.cnn.com/2019/10/07/politics/lindsey-graham-donald-trump-syria-troops/index.html

Graham is now openly criticising Trump. I think he might be trying the waters of public opinion, seeing how far he can go. If he survives this, Trump might face impeachment.

This is not uncommon for Graham to do: he's a Neocon and has been heavily critical of the apparatus of Trump's Foreign Policy (not sure if apparatus is the correct word). However, like other Republicans, he seems to accept this as he feels powerless to stop this and hence probably why he isn't going to fight Trump on the Ukraine Issue (at least, until significant evidence comes out).

[Gravlen]

https://edition.cnn.com/2019/10/07/politics/lindsey-graham-donald-trump-syria-troops/index.html

Graham is now openly criticising Trump. I think he might be trying the waters of public opinion, seeing how far he can go. If he survives this, Trump might face impeachment.

Graham is a spineless, lickspittle toad. I expect nothing to come from his croaking, regardless of the reactions he might get now.

[Miami Shores]

https://edition.cnn.com/2019/10/07/politics/lindsey-graham-donald-trump-syria-troops/index.html

Graham is now openly criticising Trump. I think he might be trying the waters of public opinion, seeing how far he can go. If he survives this, Trump might face impeachment.

Graham is a spineless, lickspittle toad. I expect nothing to come from his croaking, regardless of the reactions he might get now.

I have always supported an independent Kurdistan, see I can disagree with Donnie and still support Donnie on other issues, Graham's support for Donnie against impeachment by the non partisan democrats (sarcastic post) has nothing to do with Trump's foreign policy, Turkey is a member of NATO.

[Ifreann]

Trump wants to impeach Nancy Pelosi, Adam Schiff, and Mitt Romney. Probably someone else as well, I have lost count of how many he's accused of treason by now.

"And also internet user Gravlen"

[Vassenor]

Graham is a spineless, lickspittle toad. I expect nothing to come from his croaking, regardless of the reactions he might get now.

I have always supported an independent Kurdistan, see I can disagree with Donnie and still support Donnie on other issues, Graham's support for Donnie against impeachment by the non partisan democrats (sarcastic post) has nothing to do with Trump's foreign policy, Turkey is a member of NATO.

What does Turkey being in NATO have to do with anything?

[Stamp Out Trump]

Did he unironically use "Great and unmatched wisdom"???

Yep. And he's soaked his political soul with gasoline and surely lit a match unto himself and his henchmen. No one is to blame but that orange flaming idiot in his bathroom mirror. Fire bad.

[Miami Shores]

I have always supported an independent Kurdistan, see I can disagree with Donnie and still support Donnie on other issues, Graham's support for Donnie against impeachment by the non partisan democrats (sarcastic post) has nothing to do with Trump's foreign policy, Turkey is a member of NATO.

What does Turkey being in NATO have to do with anything?

Gravlen is the one who made a comment related to Graham, Donnie and Syria from my understanding of his post, unless I misunderstood, if so I apologize to Gravlen.

Turkey being in NATO can be a reason why Donnie supports Turkey.

[Cannot think of a name]

I wonder if Graham is trying to see if he found the Konami Code for Trump:

"No matter what President Trump is saying about his decision, it is EXACTLY what President Obama did in Iraq with even more disastrous consequences for our national security," Graham tweeted.

Compare his actions to Obama.

Anyway, it's not just Graham was the original point:

Sen. Pat Toomey (R-Pa.), who represents a key 2020 battleground state, asked Trump to reverse course, citing concerns that the decision would bolster the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria (ISIS) and would have ramifications for other alliances.

"This betrayal of the Kurds will also severely harm our credibility as an ally the world over. President Trump should rethink this decision immediately," Toomey said in a statement.

Sen. Ben Sasse (R-Neb.) added that unless Trump changes his mind, the "bad decision will likely result in the slaughter of allies."

“I hope the president will listen to his generals and reconsider," he said.

[Gormwood]

I wonder if Graham is trying to see if he found the Konami Code for Trump:

"No matter what President Trump is saying about his decision, it is EXACTLY what President Obama did in Iraq with even more disastrous consequences for our national security," Graham tweeted.

Compare his actions to Obama.

Anyway, it's not just Graham was the original point:

Sen. Pat Toomey (R-Pa.), who represents a key 2020 battleground state, asked Trump to reverse course, citing concerns that the decision would bolster the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria (ISIS) and would have ramifications for other alliances.

"This betrayal of the Kurds will also severely harm our credibility as an ally the world over. President Trump should rethink this decision immediately," Toomey said in a statement.

Sen. Ben Sasse (R-Neb.) added that unless Trump changes his mind, the "bad decision will likely result in the slaughter of allies."

“I hope the president will listen to his generals and reconsider," he said.

"ObaMarsha Marsha Marsha, always Marsha!"

[Miami Shores]

I wonder if Graham is trying to see if he found the Konami Code for Trump:

"No matter what President Trump is saying about his decision, it is EXACTLY what President Obama did in Iraq with even more disastrous consequences for our national security," Graham tweeted.

Compare his actions to Obama.

Anyway, it's not just Graham was the original point:

Sen. Pat Toomey (R-Pa.), who represents a key 2020 battleground state, asked Trump to reverse course, citing concerns that the decision would bolster the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria (ISIS) and would have ramifications for other alliances.

"This betrayal of the Kurds will also severely harm our credibility as an ally the world over. President Trump should rethink this decision immediately," Toomey said in a statement.

Sen. Ben Sasse (R-Neb.) added that unless Trump changes his mind, the "bad decision will likely result in the slaughter of allies."

“I hope the president will listen to his generals and reconsider," he said.

No I just think Graham and I disagree with Donnie on this one and that is all lol, I support a Kurdistan nation state, lol my favorite expression on NS I use too much, it is on my sig.

[Major-Tom]

https://edition.cnn.com/2019/10/07/politics/lindsey-graham-donald-trump-syria-troops/index.html

Graham is now openly criticising Trump. I think he might be trying the waters of public opinion, seeing how far he can go. If he survives this, Trump might face impeachment.

As is McConnell and all the other neoconservative ghouls roaming the Senate. Non-interventionism is always something I can gun for, though I suspect Trump doesn't particularly care whether or not we have troops in that region, he's kinda just remembering "oh, right, I said I wasn't going to be a hawk, guess I can follow through just this one time."

[Miami Shores]

https://edition.cnn.com/2019/10/07/politics/lindsey-graham-donald-trump-syria-troops/index.html

Graham is now openly criticising Trump. I think he might be trying the waters of public opinion, seeing how far he can go. If he survives this, Trump might face impeachment.

Again as I said Graham's support for Donnie against the political impeachment attempt by the Democrats has nothing to do with his foreign policy on the Kurds, Syria or Turkey and Turkey is a member of NATO perhaps that is part of the reason.

I support an independent Kurdistan nation state.

I agree with Graham and Nikki Haley on this one lol, whom I like for many reasons as a fellow Republican who could be the first Lady President of the USA if Warren doesn't win against Donnie, which I hope she doesn't if she is the Democratic Party nominee, which I think she will be the Democratic Party nominee.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news ... withdrawal

[San Lumen]

https://edition.cnn.com/2019/10/07/politics/lindsey-graham-donald-trump-syria-troops/index.html

Graham is now openly criticising Trump. I think he might be trying the waters of public opinion, seeing how far he can go. If he survives this, Trump might face impeachment.

Again as I said Graham's support for Donnie against the political impeachment attempt by the Democrats has nothing to do with his foreign policy on the Kurds, Syria or Turkey and Turkey is a member of NATO perhaps that is part of the reason.

I support an independent Kurdistan nation state.

I agree with Graham and Nikki Haley on this one lol, whom I like for many reasons as a fellow Republican who could be the first Lady President of the USA if Warren doesn't win against Donnie, which I hope she doesn't if she is the Democratic Party nominee, which I think she will be the Democratic Party nominee.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news ... withdrawal

Trumps actions will destabilize the middle east. He is also leaving children to die in Syria on top of barring Syrian refugees to the United States.

[Telconi]

Again as I said Graham's support for Donnie against the political impeachment attempt by the Democrats has nothing to do with his foreign policy on the Kurds, Syria or Turkey and Turkey is a member of NATO perhaps that is part of the reason.

I support an independent Kurdistan nation state.

I agree with Graham and Nikki Haley on this one lol, whom I like for many reasons as a fellow Republican who could be the first Lady President of the USA if Warren doesn't win against Donnie, which I hope she doesn't if she is the Democratic Party nominee, which I think she will be the Democratic Party nominee.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news ... withdrawal

Trumps actions will destabilize the middle east. He is also leaving children to die in Syria on top of barring Syrian refugees to the United States.

We saw the news article, thank you.

[San Lumen]

Trumps actions will destabilize the middle east. He is also leaving children to die in Syria on top of barring Syrian refugees to the United States.

We saw the news article, thank you.

And it seems many don't care

[Telconi]

We saw the news article, thank you.

And it seems many don't care

Except Lindsey Graham apparently.

[Bear Stearns]

Lol the one time there's bipartisanship in Congress is one the rare occasion when Trump goes against the military industrial complex.

We need to pull out of the Middle East entirely. Tired of my country being dragged into these dark age desert religious wars for oil.

[Bear Stearns]

Again as I said Graham's support for Donnie against the political impeachment attempt by the Democrats has nothing to do with his foreign policy on the Kurds, Syria or Turkey and Turkey is a member of NATO perhaps that is part of the reason.

I support an independent Kurdistan nation state.

I agree with Graham and Nikki Haley on this one lol, whom I like for many reasons as a fellow Republican who could be the first Lady President of the USA if Warren doesn't win against Donnie, which I hope she doesn't if she is the Democratic Party nominee, which I think she will be the Democratic Party nominee.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news ... withdrawal

Trumps actions will destabilize the middle east. He is also leaving children to die in Syria on top of barring Syrian refugees to the United States.

Invading the Middle East is what destabilized it. Leaving it is what the US should have done 19 years ago.

[Bear Stearns]

https://edition.cnn.com/2019/10/07/politics/lindsey-graham-donald-trump-syria-troops/index.html

Graham is now openly criticising Trump. I think he might be trying the waters of public opinion, seeing how far he can go. If he survives this, Trump might face impeachment.

Graham is a neocon warmonger bought and paid for by defense contractors and Halliburton. Fuck him and his shitty take.

[Valrifell]

Lol the one time there's bipartisanship in Congress is one the rare occasion when Trump goes against the military industrial complex.

We need to pull out of the Middle East entirely. Tired of my country being dragged into these dark age desert religious wars for oil.

The US imports most of it's oil from Canada, Venezuela, Mexico, and Saudi Arabia. Three of which aren't in the Middle East and one of which has been extremely stable and not in need of liberating.

Which makes sense, if you think about it. Transportation is expensive as fuck and pipelines are super convenient, so nearby nations will naturally make up the majority of imports, it's also easier to trade in nations that aren't being bombed to smithereens. This is not even factoring in the fact that, since the turn of the millennia, the US has grown increasingly independent with oil as we increase domestic production.

EDIT TO ADD: also the Kurds are most likely going to be victims of horrendous atrocities because the Turks detest them with a violent passion. Letting war crimes happen is *checks notes* bad.

[Duhon]

Did he unironically use "Great and unmatched wisdom"???

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[Telconi]

Trumps actions will destabilize the middle east. He is also leaving children to die in Syria on top of barring Syrian refugees to the United States.

Invading the Middle East is what destabilized it. Leaving it is what the US should have done 19 years ago.

Also this. Our attempts to play kingmaker in the ME made this mess.

[Fartsniffage]

Lol the one time there's bipartisanship in Congress is one the rare occasion when Trump goes against the military industrial complex.

We need to pull out of the Middle East entirely. Tired of my country being dragged into these dark age desert religious wars for oil.

You want the nice shit about being the biggest economic power in the world then you have to accept the bad shit about enforcing that position. At one point during the British Empire about 50% of UK taxation was going towards the navy to defend British interests.

[Telconi]

Did he unironically use "Great and unmatched wisdom"???

well ah if people ahhh unironically ahhhhhh use ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

MANDATE OF MANDATE OF MANDATE OF HEAVENNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN

i ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh guess AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

We Qing Dynasty now.

[Gormwood]

Lol the one time there's bipartisanship in Congress is one the rare occasion when Trump goes against the military industrial complex.

We need to pull out of the Middle East entirely. Tired of my country being dragged into these dark age desert religious wars for oil.

You won't care, but the Republicans see that permanently alienating the Kurds by letting another mustachioed dictator slaughter them after promising to help them is going to tear off America's ass in the future.