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Postby Professor Irwin Corey » Sun Oct 13, 2019 2:37 pm

Gravlen wrote:
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America first to cut and run on it's best ally in the fight.

America first to repeat the mistake of Afghanistan and leaving before the fight is done.

In addition, a US official told CNN that the campaign to defeast ISIS in Syria is "over for now," and that ISIS "has a second lease on life with nearly 100,000 [people] who will rejoin their jihad." The official said, in their opinion, "US policy has failed."

Disaster is unfolding in Syria as videos emerge of US allies being slaughtered and hundreds of ISIS prisoners escape during airstrikes

A complete failure of diplomacy, but that's not surprising to anyone who've had their eyes on the developments within the State Department since the days of Rex Tillersons active dismantling.


An incompetent POTUS made the CEO pf Exxon Mobil the Secretary of State. Later he called said POTUS a moron. How ironic. No surprise everything's going down the drain.

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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Sun Oct 13, 2019 2:38 pm

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So if you remove a bunch of people who voted for Hillary trump got more votes.


Thing is those votes still exist. They where from us citizens in a us state. They where legitimate votes and have no logical reason to be removed.

My original post was meant to be posted to you as a response to your post, but I accidentally did not do so. I said Granted all the Republicans and Democrats of California are us citizens, we agree on this point, I was just pointing out the other math.


Yes and the math is sound, but discounting the legitimate votes for presdent from us citizens for no other reason then dislikeing the the state they live in is illogical.

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Postby Professor Irwin Corey » Sun Oct 13, 2019 2:39 pm

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"California bad"


Yes.


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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Sun Oct 13, 2019 2:40 pm

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America first to cut and run on it's best ally in the fight.

America first to repeat the mistake of Afghanistan and leaving before the fight is done.

In addition, a US official told CNN that the campaign to defeast ISIS in Syria is "over for now," and that ISIS "has a second lease on life with nearly 100,000 [people] who will rejoin their jihad." The official said, in their opinion, "US policy has failed."

Disaster is unfolding in Syria as videos emerge of US allies being slaughtered and hundreds of ISIS prisoners escape during airstrikes

A complete failure of diplomacy, but that's not surprising to anyone who've had their eyes on the developments within the State Department since the days of Rex Tillersons active dismantling.




Holy fucking shit. Why is Trump leting this happen?

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Postby Telconi » Sun Oct 13, 2019 2:41 pm

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Gravlen wrote:America first to repeat the mistake of Afghanistan and leaving before the fight is done.

In addition, a US official told CNN that the campaign to defeast ISIS in Syria is "over for now," and that ISIS "has a second lease on life with nearly 100,000 [people] who will rejoin their jihad." The official said, in their opinion, "US policy has failed."

Disaster is unfolding in Syria as videos emerge of US allies being slaughtered and hundreds of ISIS prisoners escape during airstrikes

A complete failure of diplomacy, but that's not surprising to anyone who've had their eyes on the developments within the State Department since the days of Rex Tillersons active dismantling.




Holy fucking shit. Why is Trump leting this happen?


"Turkey bad"
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Postby Gravlen » Sun Oct 13, 2019 2:44 pm

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Gravlen wrote:America first to repeat the mistake of Afghanistan and leaving before the fight is done.

In addition, a US official told CNN that the campaign to defeast ISIS in Syria is "over for now," and that ISIS "has a second lease on life with nearly 100,000 [people] who will rejoin their jihad." The official said, in their opinion, "US policy has failed."

Disaster is unfolding in Syria as videos emerge of US allies being slaughtered and hundreds of ISIS prisoners escape during airstrikes

A complete failure of diplomacy, but that's not surprising to anyone who've had their eyes on the developments within the State Department since the days of Rex Tillersons active dismantling.




Holy fucking shit. Why is Trump leting this happen?

Because Erdogan was nice to him on the phone, and Trump has never met an authoritarian ass he didn't want to kiss.
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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Sun Oct 13, 2019 2:44 pm

Telconi wrote:
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:


Holy fucking shit. Why is Trump leting this happen?


"Turkey bad"


US allys dieing and ISIS resurgeing is bad.

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Postby Gormwood » Sun Oct 13, 2019 2:44 pm

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Gravlen wrote:America first to repeat the mistake of Afghanistan and leaving before the fight is done.

In addition, a US official told CNN that the campaign to defeast ISIS in Syria is "over for now," and that ISIS "has a second lease on life with nearly 100,000 [people] who will rejoin their jihad." The official said, in their opinion, "US policy has failed."

Disaster is unfolding in Syria as videos emerge of US allies being slaughtered and hundreds of ISIS prisoners escape during airstrikes

A complete failure of diplomacy, but that's not surprising to anyone who've had their eyes on the developments within the State Department since the days of Rex Tillersons active dismantling.




Holy fucking shit. Why is Trump leting this happen?

Probably some real estate or merchandising deal with Turkey.
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Postby Professor Irwin Corey » Sun Oct 13, 2019 2:46 pm

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Miami Shores wrote:My original post was meant to be posted to you as a response to your post, but I accidentally did not do so. I said Granted all the Republicans and Democrats of California are us citizens, we agree on this point, I was just pointing out the other math.


Yes and the math is sound, but discounting the legitimate votes for presdent from us citizens for no other reason then dislikeing the the state they live in is illogical.


Logic is a little tweeting bird chirping in a meadow. Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers which smell *bad*. Logic is a corrupted orange president needing to win another election to avoid prison.

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Postby Gormwood » Sun Oct 13, 2019 2:49 pm

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Telconi wrote:
Excluding California from any information about America is probably a prudent idea all in all.



"California bad"

Gavin Newsom hurt his feelings.
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Postby Miami Shores » Sun Oct 13, 2019 2:51 pm

Telconi wrote:
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:

"California bad"


Yes.

Yes California bad from a Republican Political Perspective, I am a 3 times Political Refugee, once from commie Cuba, once from Chicago and once from leftist California lol, I used to live in Palo Alto California, you can all see my post above to Derpy.
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Postby Telconi » Sun Oct 13, 2019 2:52 pm

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Telconi wrote:
"Turkey bad"


US allys dieing and ISIS resurgeing is bad.


Sorry, I thought the quotes made it a refutation of your belief?

Is this not true?
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Postby Gravlen » Sun Oct 13, 2019 2:52 pm

Gormwood wrote:
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:


Holy fucking shit. Why is Trump leting this happen?

Probably some real estate or merchandising deal with Turkey.

No, seriously, it's not even that. Basically, Erdogan spoke nicely about Trump, so Trump did something nice in return for him, going off script and doing some free-hand negotiating. And being the Master Dealmaker that he is, he secured a deal.

Lest we forget:
The U.S. withdrawal plays into the hands of the Islamic State group, Damascus and Moscow, and the announcement left Trump's own Defense Department "completely stunned," said Pentagon officials. Turkey, like the United States, wants regime change in Syria. Russia and Iran support the Assad regime.

"President Trump was definitely out-negotiated and only endorsed the troop withdraw to make it look like we are getting something—but we are not getting something," the National Security Council source told Newsweek. "The U.S. national security has entered a state of increased danger for decades to come because the president has no spine and that's the bottom line."


Trump has no credibility in international matters and no weight to push around. International leaders know he's a weak push-over and a coward, and they're playing him like a cheap fiddle.
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Postby Miami Shores » Sun Oct 13, 2019 3:03 pm

Professor Irwin Corey wrote:
Gravlen wrote:America first to repeat the mistake of Afghanistan and leaving before the fight is done.

In addition, a US official told CNN that the campaign to defeast ISIS in Syria is "over for now," and that ISIS "has a second lease on life with nearly 100,000 [people] who will rejoin their jihad." The official said, in their opinion, "US policy has failed."

Disaster is unfolding in Syria as videos emerge of US allies being slaughtered and hundreds of ISIS prisoners escape during airstrikes

A complete failure of diplomacy, but that's not surprising to anyone who've had their eyes on the developments within the State Department since the days of Rex Tillersons active dismantling.


An incompetent POTUS made the CEO pf Exxon Mobil the Secretary of State. Later he called said POTUS a moron. How ironic. No surprise everything's going down the drain.

President Trump should make me Secretary of State, but the job I really want is immigration Czar or anti illegal immigration Czar, but I will accept any high government post in President Trump's administration with Pride lol.
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lol - I am the worlds greatest insomniac, I beat the worlds record every day. I love math statistics and accounting my profession. Retired home bought and paid for, own 2 rental properties. Many vacations in Miami Beach hotels, Niagara Falls Canada, Puerto Rico, Puerto Plata and Punta Cana Dominican Republic. I am not rich but I am not poor, over all not bad. Proud conservative Republican native Cuban and American citizen supporter of President Trump. President Ronald Reagan the greatest American President of the USA ever and the original Make America Great Again President. President Trump the second greatest American President of the USA ever.

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Postby Gormwood » Sun Oct 13, 2019 3:05 pm

Miami Shores wrote:
Professor Irwin Corey wrote:
An incompetent POTUS made the CEO pf Exxon Mobil the Secretary of State. Later he called said POTUS a moron. How ironic. No surprise everything's going down the drain.

President Trump should make me Secretary of State, but the job I really want is immigration Czar or anti illegal immigration Czar, but I will accept any high government post in President Trump's administration with Pride lol.

A Cuban telling other Latinos they can't come in. That should go over well.
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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Sun Oct 13, 2019 3:08 pm

Telconi wrote:
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
US allys dieing and ISIS resurgeing is bad.


Sorry, I thought the quotes made it a refutation of your belief?

Is this not true?


No. What you where posting was nonsense about how calilfornas votes shouldnt be counted beacuse you dont like them.


I was talking about the resurgence of ISIS and the death of US allys.

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Postby Miami Shores » Sun Oct 13, 2019 3:08 pm

Gormwood wrote:
Miami Shores wrote:President Trump should make me Secretary of State, but the job I really want is immigration Czar or anti illegal immigration Czar, but I will accept any high government post in President Trump's administration with Pride lol.

A Cuban telling other Latinos they can't come in. That should go over well.

Telling them apply, meet the requirements all nations have and wait and your turn in your nations of origin, including shithole nations like Cuba, like I did for x numbers of years and have your medical exams like I had too.

I have no problems with the immigrants if they immigrate legally like I did the right way.
lol - I am the worlds greatest insomniac, I beat the worlds record every day. I love math statistics and accounting my profession. Retired home bought and paid for, own 2 rental properties. Many vacations in Miami Beach hotels, Niagara Falls Canada, Puerto Rico, Puerto Plata and Punta Cana Dominican Republic. I am not rich but I am not poor, over all not bad. Proud conservative Republican native Cuban and American citizen supporter of President Trump. President Ronald Reagan the greatest American President of the USA ever and the original Make America Great Again President. President Trump the second greatest American President of the USA ever.

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Postby Professor Irwin Corey » Sun Oct 13, 2019 3:10 pm

Gormwood wrote:
Miami Shores wrote:President Trump should make me Secretary of State, but the job I really want is immigration Czar or anti illegal immigration Czar, but I will accept any high government post in President Trump's administration with Pride lol.

A Cuban telling other Latinos they can't come in. That should go over well.


I wouldn't be surprised if Elian Gonzalez decided to self deport after meeting this guy in school.

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Postby Fartsniffage » Sun Oct 13, 2019 3:11 pm

Miami Shores wrote:
Gormwood wrote:A Cuban telling other Latinos they can't come in. That should go over well.

Telling them apply, meet the requirements all nations have and wait and your turn in your nations of origin, including shithole nations like Cuba, like I did for x numbers of years and have your medical exams like I had too.

I have no problems with the immigrants if they immigrate legally like I did the right way.


Just assume for a second that you're wrong, and Trump has indeed committed a crime. Would it still be wrong for the House to seek impeachment?

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Postby Gormwood » Sun Oct 13, 2019 3:13 pm

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Miami Shores wrote:Telling them apply, meet the requirements all nations have and wait and your turn in your nations of origin, including shithole nations like Cuba, like I did for x numbers of years and have your medical exams like I had too.

I have no problems with the immigrants if they immigrate legally like I did the right way.


Just assume for a second that you're wrong, and Trump has indeed committed a crime. Would it still be wrong for the House to seek impeachment?

Please. His answer will always be "Trump Can Do No Wrong."
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Postby Miami Shores » Sun Oct 13, 2019 3:14 pm

Professor Irwin Corey wrote:
Gormwood wrote:A Cuban telling other Latinos they can't come in. That should go over well.


I wouldn't be surprised if Elian Gonzalez decided to self deport after meeting this guy in school.

lol, I support immigration asylum based on real asylum reasons, if it is the actual nation doing the oppressing, or it can be proven the government is behind private third parties doing the oppressing.

So my fellow Cubans would be welcomed as political refugees lol. The Central Americans of the Honduras Caravan were not political refugees and most did not qualify for any kind of real asylum lol. President Trump did the right thing declaring a national illegal immigration emergency at the US Mexico border and Mexico deports Cubans and other immigrants when it wants too and looks the other way when it wants too and then complains about Mexican illegals being deported lol.
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Postby Telconi » Sun Oct 13, 2019 3:16 pm

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Telconi wrote:
Sorry, I thought the quotes made it a refutation of your belief?

Is this not true?


No. What you where posting was nonsense about how calilfornas votes shouldnt be counted beacuse you dont like them.


I was talking about the resurgence of ISIS and the death of US allys.


Which US allys are dying? Turks? I mean, they're probably expecting some losses, that happens in war. Also what about ISIS, why are they important?
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Postby Izandai » Sun Oct 13, 2019 3:17 pm

Professor Irwin Corey wrote:
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Yes and the math is sound, but discounting the legitimate votes for presdent from us citizens for no other reason then dislikeing the the state they live in is illogical.


Logic is a little tweeting bird chirping in a meadow. Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers which smell *bad*. Logic is a corrupted orange president needing to win another election to avoid prison.

Logic is something you are apparently completely bereft of.
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Postby Miami Shores » Sun Oct 13, 2019 3:18 pm

Telconi wrote:
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
No. What you where posting was nonsense about how calilfornas votes shouldnt be counted beacuse you dont like them.


I was talking about the resurgence of ISIS and the death of US allys.


Which US allys are dying? Turks? I mean, they're probably expecting some losses, that happens in war. Also what about ISIS, why are they important?

They are very evil and should be defeated anywhere they turn up.
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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Sun Oct 13, 2019 3:20 pm

Telconi wrote:
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
No. What you where posting was nonsense about how calilfornas votes shouldnt be counted beacuse you dont like them.


I was talking about the resurgence of ISIS and the death of US allys.


Which US allys are dying? Turks? I mean, they're probably expecting some losses, that happens in war. Also what about ISIS, why are they important?



"As the Turkish invasion into northern Syria proceeds, the region has seemingly descended into violent chaos, with videos emerging of Turkish proxies slaughtering US allies."

Also do i really need to explan why ISIS is shitty?

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