MAGAThread XVI: Raising the Barr

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

Respect? You want RESPECT???
Fuck no. Not until Mr. Trump respects our constitution, law and order, our allies and his political opposition. Add to those the facts and the truth. If you stand with Trump's shit mess of administration repeating all it's lies and fake news then you shall receive no respect. None.

Your post speaks for itself, I don't have to comment to your post anymore lol. Great Democracy we have in America, the USA.

>Great Democracy

>People defend Trump winning despite looseing the pop vote by saying America isn't a democracy

[Page]

Good. Then I'll get the last word in. Trump is a sick and reckless man. He is getting our Kurd allies killed at this very minute in Northern Syria for no reason that benefits the USA or any of our other allies. Trump is a pariah on the world stage. He's nothing but a Putin, Kim, Erdogan despot wannabe which shows he is not on the side of democracy in any way or any form.

It's almost like Turkey was going in without our permission or not, as evidenced by the fact that they shelled US special forces with artillery fire because they were in the way.

The United States, being the United States and all, has plenty of available leverage to exercise. If threatened with unacceptable financial and strategic consequences, Turkey would back down. And a US President might consider wielding that leverage, unless of course said US President was personally enriching himself in business deals with Turkey.

[Gormwood]

I still think impeachment is a bad idea. Not even one Republican Senator would evenly briefly consider convicting; the House choosing to impeach is basically a symbolic gesture. Republican Senators have already stated their intention of doing a procedural equivalent to dismissing the case. The result is going to be an election season full of duplicitous headlines like "Trump Cleared of All Wrongdoing" and Trump will use that to his advantage.

A better use of the House Democrats' time would be to start introducing and debating progressive bills that will provide tangible change to health care, wages, energy, and other issues that directly affect the lives of regular people. Actually getting these bills passed will also be futile, but the more the Democrats make the election about policy, the better their chances.

Democrats are still under this delusion that moderate, middle-class Republicans are going to reach a breaking point with Trump's misconduct, that they will eventually say "Trump is just too corrupt, so I will vote for the Democrat this time." That's not going to happen. Because those who benefited under Trump, even if only temporarily such as the tax cuts that will soon expire for regular people but not for the wealthy, are content with how things are. Those Trump voters are going to say "I got mine" and vote to reelect Trump because they don't care in the slightest about Trump asking Ukraine to dig up dirt on Biden.

The Democrats need the disillusioned people who voted third party or didn't vote at all in 2016, and the way to get their votes is by fighting for progressive policies that polls show the majority support.

But Trump isn't going to lose because of scandals alone.

Allan Lichtman says impeachment is the best shot the Democrats have regardless of if Donny gets convicted and removed or not. As mentioned, Lichtman was right when he said Blowjobpeachment was a Key factor in the Republicans winning the White House in 2000 despite losing a chunk of the House in the immediate aftermath.

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

still wayy below 50% approval btw

[Gormwood]

It's almost like Turkey was going in without our permission or not, as evidenced by the fact that they shelled US special forces with artillery fire because they were in the way.

The United States, being the United States and all, has plenty of available leverage to exercise. If threatened with unacceptable financial and strategic consequences, Turkey would back down. And a US President might consider wielding that leverage, unless of course said US President was personally enriching himself in business deals with Turkey.

Trump Tower Istanbul, with locally sourced organic bedbugs.

[Cannot think of a name]

Not my fault, I am the one who says I respect all nations economic, political and social views and their right to post it, even on my pet issue of Cuba on NS, I am the one who says can we all agree to disagree on Trump and impeachment, and I get told over and over again, we are right and you all are wrong, you are entitled to your own opinion, but not your facts, I am the one who gets put down, made fun of and insulted, and insulted by a few while breaking NS rules against me, which I don't report anyone for, read my nations sigs.

I will ask again, can we all agree to disagree on Trump and the impeachment?

No, I think we'll carry on debating and discussing Trump and the things he gets up to, since that's the point of this thread.

Occasionally.

[Gormwood]

Oh ho ho ho ho...

Sondland to tell Congress that contents of 'no quid pro quo' text came from Trump: report

President Trump's ambassador to the European Union (EU), Gordon Sondland, plans to tell Congress this week that a text he sent denying understanding of quid pro quo between Trump and Ukraine's Volodymyr Zelensky in a July phone call in July was dictated by Trump himself.

Donny just can't stop dictating his own alibis to others. Remember the letter about the meeting with Russians at Trump Tower?

[Gormwood]

And on a side note...

Giuliani was always a fraud. Just ask the FDNY

Reminder that Giuliani was the galaxy brain who ignored expert advice and recommendations to centralize emergency service communications in a command center right under the World Trade Center just before 9/11 happened.

[Miami Shores]

Your post speaks for itself, I don't have to comment to your post anymore lol. Great Democracy we have in America, the USA.

>Great Democracy

>People defend Trump winning despite looseing the pop vote by saying America isn't a democracy

You all want policy posts and quality posts from me ok, but I promise you we wont agree on this one.
US 2016 Presidential election results:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_Unit ... l_election

President Trump won the 2016 elections according to the electoral college rules. While it is true that he received a lower popular vote than Hillary, if you subtract the largest US leftist state of California, of which I am a political refugee from, I used to live in Palo Alto California. President Trump won more votes than Hillary Clinton, if you subtract Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania President Trump won more votes than Hillary Clinton, I did the math. Granted all the Republicans and Democrats of California are us citizens.

Whatever the Russians did during the 2016 elections, President Trump campaigned and debated Hillary, and Hillary campaigned and debated Trump, and President Trump won. Their are allegations that Obama and the Democrats spied on Trump's campaign, this should be investigated in the US Senate by the Republicans, I think they are beginning to do so.

No obstruction, collusion, quid pro quo, pressures on the Ukraine President and blackmail has been proven beyond a doubt, this thread needs a poll, many nations read our posts but don't vote, then they will have a chance to vote pro and cons if they wish to.

[Professor Irwin Corey]

Good. Then I'll get the last word in. Trump is a sick and reckless man. He is getting our Kurd allies killed at this very minute in Northern Syria for no reason that benefits the USA or any of our other allies. Trump is a pariah on the world stage. He's nothing but a Putin, Kim, Erdogan despot wannabe which shows he is not on the side of democracy in any way or any form.

lol, I have posted I disagree with President Donnie Trump on the Kurds. As far as I am concerned and millions of American citizens who support him, President Trump is a great American President for all the good policies I have posted on this thread lol. This post was based on policies.

I knew you were lying (per usual) about not continuing to respond to me. Shameful display.

[Gormwood]

Mad Dog says Donny done fucked up.

Mattis says ISIS 'will resurge' in Syria following Trump's move to withdraw US troops

[Miami Shores]

lol, I have posted I disagree with President Donnie Trump on the Kurds. As far as I am concerned and millions of American citizens who support him, President Trump is a great American President for all the good policies I have posted on this thread lol. This post was based on policies.

I knew you were lying (per usual) about not continuing to respond to me. Shameful display.

lol I responded to you on a policy post, not on the unnecessary back and forths, perhaps you did not read my post correctly, I disagree with my Dear Leader, God Emperor President Donnie Trump on the Kurds and I agree with you lol, that is what I responded too.
And I still Proudly vow to him,

GMS Alberto

[Ifreann]

No, I think we'll carry on debating and discussing Trump and the things he gets up to, since that's the point of this thread.

This what I try to do, but every time I post anything pro Trump, I get told you are wrong and we are right, that is 99 % of their posts, that is not the point of this thread, this thread is anti Trump posts and Pro Trump Posts. I am going to have to ignore those parts of your posts.

Then they throw personal insults and make fun of me, which I don't care, and a few have insulted me and broken NS rules against me, which I will never report them for.

The point of this thread is not just for you to say that Trump is good and then we say that Trump is bad. The point is debate and discussion.

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Good. Then I'll get the last word in. Trump is a sick and reckless man. He is getting our Kurd allies killed at this very minute in Northern Syria for no reason that benefits the USA or any of our other allies. Trump is a pariah on the world stage. He's nothing but a Putin, Kim, Erdogan despot wannabe which shows he is not on the side of democracy in any way or any form.

It's almost like Turkey was going in without our permission or not, as evidenced by the fact that they shelled US special forces with artillery fire because they were in the way.

Almost like they knew the guy in charge was pulling out and wouldn't make a big deal about it. Like he announced.

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No, I think we'll carry on debating and discussing Trump and the things he gets up to, since that's the point of this thread.

Occasionally.

An hour or two a day. Less on the weekends.

[An Alan Smithee Nation]

While it is true that he received a lower popular vote than Hillary, if you subtract the largest US leftist state of California, of which I am a political refugee from, I used to live in Palo Alto California. President Trump won more votes than Hillary Clinton, if you subtract Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania President Trump won more votes than Hillary Clinton, I did the math.

So if you take out a large number of people who voted for Hillary Clinton, Trump got more votes...

Astounding work.

[Telconi]

While it is true that he received a lower popular vote than Hillary, if you subtract the largest US leftist state of California, of which I am a political refugee from, I used to live in Palo Alto California. President Trump won more votes than Hillary Clinton, if you subtract Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania President Trump won more votes than Hillary Clinton, I did the math.

So if you take out a large number of people who voted for Hillary Clinton, Trump got more votes...

Astounding work.

Excluding California from any information about America is probably a prudent idea all in all.

[Necroghastia]

So if you take out a large number of people who voted for Hillary Clinton, Trump got more votes...

Astounding work.

Excluding California from any information about America is probably a prudent idea all in all.

Nah.

[Miami Shores]

This Post is related to President Trump.

Source Politico:
https://www.politico.com/news/2019/10/1 ... any-045761

Hunter Biden to step down from board of Chinese company
His lawyer issues a statement describing his international business dealings.

Hunter Biden has been the focus of accusations of corruption by President Donald Trump and many of his allies. | Pablo Martinez Monsivais, File/AP Photo

Hunter Biden is stepping down from the board of a company in China, his lawyer said Sunday.

“Hunter intends to resign from the BHR board of directors on or by October 31, 2019,” Mesires said. He noted that Biden had already left the board of Burisma.

The son of former Vice President Joe Biden has been the focus of accusations of corruption by President Donald Trump and many of his allies. “Just like President Trump, I am greatly concerned by that arrangement. It is either illegal or it should be illegal, what they did,” said Rep. Lee Zeldin (R-N.Y.), speaking Sunday on ABC’s “This Week.”

“Hunter undertook these business activities independently. He did not believe it appropriate to discuss them with his father, nor did he,“ Mesires said.

lol father and son don't ever talk businesss, don't ever dine and golf together with these business executives, and if they do they never talk business at the country clubs while they dine lol.

The Kid his son, made at least $ 50 000 dollars a month with Burisma or whatever amount, and does not know anything about gas lol. His father is on a video tape not on a phone call threatening the Ukraine Government to fire a Ukrainian Prosecutor.

As Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelensky a former comedian joked, it should have been on a video not on the phone. President Volodymry Zelensly has stated on video he did not feel pressured from Trump, he was not blackmailed by Trump. President Trump added their was no quid pro quo, since his English is not perfect, I saw the video, I can post a link to it again.

Hunter Biden and Joe Biden should be investigated too by the Republicans on the House Intelligence Committee and the Democrats. Hunter Biden and Joe Biden should be investigated too by the Republicans in the Senate.

Discuss?

[Vassenor]

Excluding California from any information about America is probably a prudent idea all in all.

Nah.

But the guns...

[Miami Shores]

Nah.

But the guns...

What about the guns Vassenor, and I will try to answer your post not on an unnecessary back and forth?

[Arumdaum]

>Great Democracy

>People defend Trump winning despite looseing the pop vote by saying America isn't a democracy

You all want policy posts and quality posts from me ok, but I promise you we wont agree on this one.
US 2016 Presidential election results:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_Unit ... l_election

President Trump won the 2016 elections according to the electoral college rules. While it is true that he received a lower popular vote than Hillary, if you subtract the largest US leftist state of California, of which I am a political refugee from, I used to live in Palo Alto California. President Trump won more votes than Hillary Clinton, if you subtract Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania President Trump won more votes than Hillary Clinton, I did the math. Granted all the Republicans and Democrats of California are us citizens.

Whatever the Russians did during the 2016 elections, President Trump campaigned and debated Hillary, and Hillary campaigned and debated Trump, and President Trump won. Their are allegations that Obama and the Democrats spied on Trump's campaign, this should be investigated in the US Senate by the Republicans, I think they are beginning to do so.

No obstruction, collusion, quid pro quo, pressures on the Ukraine President and blackmail has been proven beyond a doubt, this thread needs a poll, many nations read our posts but don't vote, then they will have a chance to vote pro and cons if they wish to.

california is literally 1/8 of the entire population lol

[Miami Shores]

You all want policy posts and quality posts from me ok, but I promise you we wont agree on this one.
US 2016 Presidential election results:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_Unit ... l_election

President Trump won the 2016 elections according to the electoral college rules. While it is true that he received a lower popular vote than Hillary, if you subtract the largest US leftist state of California, of which I am a political refugee from, I used to live in Palo Alto California. President Trump won more votes than Hillary Clinton, if you subtract Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania President Trump won more votes than Hillary Clinton, I did the math. Granted all the Republicans and Democrats of California are us citizens.

Whatever the Russians did during the 2016 elections, President Trump campaigned and debated Hillary, and Hillary campaigned and debated Trump, and President Trump won. Their are allegations that Obama and the Democrats spied on Trump's campaign, this should be investigated in the US Senate by the Republicans, I think they are beginning to do so.

No obstruction, collusion, quid pro quo, pressures on the Ukraine President and blackmail has been proven beyond a doubt, this thread needs a poll, many nations read our posts but don't vote, then they will have a chance to vote pro and cons if they wish to.

california is literally 1/8 of the entire population lol

But it is the largest population state, with the largest number of electoral votes and the reason Hillary won more popular votes than Trump.

I for one will never report any of your posts, it is on my main nations sigs.

[San Lumen]

california is literally 1/8 of the entire population lol

But it is the largest population state, with the largest number of electoral votes and the reason Hillary won more popular votes than Trump.

I for one will never report any of your posts, it is on my main nations sigs.

The person with the most votes should win. That’s like saying he’d win Minnesota if it wasn’t for Hennepin county or New York without nyc. People vote. Land doesn’t

[Telconi]

But it is the largest population state, with the largest number of electoral votes and the reason Hillary won more popular votes than Trump.

I for one will never report any of your posts, it is on my main nations sigs.

The person with the most votes should win. That’s like saying he’d win Minnesota if it wasn’t for Hennepin county or New York without nyc. People vote. Land doesn’t

Why should they?

[Gormwood]

3 related articles just posted and the thread still wants to bite whatshisname's fishing hook.

[Ifreann]

This Post is related to President Trump.

Source Politico:
https://www.politico.com/news/2019/10/1 ... any-045761

Hunter Biden to step down from board of Chinese company
His lawyer issues a statement describing his international business dealings.

Hunter Biden has been the focus of accusations of corruption by President Donald Trump and many of his allies. | Pablo Martinez Monsivais, File/AP Photo

Hunter Biden is stepping down from the board of a company in China, his lawyer said Sunday.

“Hunter intends to resign from the BHR board of directors on or by October 31, 2019,” Mesires said. He noted that Biden had already left the board of Burisma.

The son of former Vice President Joe Biden has been the focus of accusations of corruption by President Donald Trump and many of his allies. “Just like President Trump, I am greatly concerned by that arrangement. It is either illegal or it should be illegal, what they did,” said Rep. Lee Zeldin (R-N.Y.), speaking Sunday on ABC’s “This Week.”

“Hunter undertook these business activities independently. He did not believe it appropriate to discuss them with his father, nor did he,“ Mesires said.

lol father and son don't ever talk businesss, don't ever dine and golf together with these business executives, and if they do they never talk business at the country clubs while they dine lol.

The Kid his son, made at least $ 50 000 dollars a month with Burisma or whatever amount, and does not know anything about gas lol. His father is on a video tape not on a phone call threatening the Ukraine Government to fire a Ukrainian Prosecutor.

As Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelensky a former comedian joked, it should have been on a video not on the phone. President Volodymry Zelensly has stated on video he did not feel pressured from Trump, he was not blackmailed by Trump. President Trump added their was no quid pro quo, since his English is not perfect, I saw the video, I can post a link to it again.

Hunter Biden and Joe Biden should be investigated too by the Republicans on the House Intelligence Committee and the Democrats. Hunter Biden and Joe Biden should be investigated too by the Republicans in the Senate.

Discuss?

Donald Trump has claimed for years that his adult sons are running the family businesses without any input from him. Do you believe him?