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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Tue Oct 08, 2019 11:51 am

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Gormwood wrote:Source? Because so far relevant articles claim that was... bullshit.


Certainly not to the extent where we had none. That's total bullshit.

https://www.defensenews.com/digital-sho ... stockpile/

Been there done that before. Any intensity warfare, esp. in the 21st century drains huge amounts of munitions from stockpiles. Trump is just blowing the problem out of all proportions.
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Postby Gravlen » Tue Oct 08, 2019 11:55 am

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Gormwood wrote:Just one of many examples why Fareed Zakaria openly called Donny a bullshit artist in front of a camera.


... That was an actual thing. We had Munitions and Ammo shortages.

First of all, "We don't have ammunition" =/= "We have a shrinking munitions stockpile".

Second, your link does not support the claim of shortage.
"Today I think we have adequate munitions for our normal requirements," he said. "But if we had to surge, if we had contingency operations and if there continues to be emerging threats we see around the world, I am very concerned with our current stockage of munitions."


No shortage, but there *could* be one in the case of a sudden and unexpected surge.
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Postby Spirit of Hope » Tue Oct 08, 2019 11:59 am

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Spirit of Hope wrote:No, but a declaration of war isn't necessary for there to be a war.


and despite all of that, a stalemate.

with shitty, Soviet style trenches.

Russia wants a stalemate, it costs them very little to maintain and offers them deniability, while keeping Ukraine from putting itself together and complaining about Crimea, keeps NATO/EU frustrated and infighting about what to do, and shows other nations what happens when you annoy Russia. Russia doesn't want to sweep through and achieve victory.

Meanwhile Ukraine, which never had a great army, is facing rebels trained and equipped by one of the biggest military players in the world. They have little ability to push for a victory by themselves, and no one is interested enough to provide the needed assistance to truly defeat the rebels.
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Postby Greater Miami Shores » Tue Oct 08, 2019 11:59 am

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Greater Miami Shores wrote:The article says: "According to the National Security Council official to whom Newsweek spoke on condition of Anonymity"
Where is the evidence, where is the whistleblower ? Is he an anti Trumper ? lol.


So because you don't know who they are and thus publicly write them off as biased against Trump for fatuous reasons then it's all lies.

And you don't know who they are and accept it facts lol.
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Postby Gormwood » Tue Oct 08, 2019 12:01 pm

Today, Petty Is As Petty Does: Stiffer Is As Stiffer Does Edition

Trump blasts ‘lightweight’ Minneapolis mayor as campaign threatens suit over massive rally security bill

Donny has gone on to stiff entire cities out of payment owed and is hiding behind litigation as always. And on top of that demanding the ouster of a mayor for the treason of demanding he pay the bill.
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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Tue Oct 08, 2019 12:01 pm

Loben The 2nd wrote:
Spirit of Hope wrote:No, but a declaration of war isn't necessary for there to be a war.


and despite all of that, a stalemate.

with shitty, Soviet style trenches.

Contrary to common belief trenches are actually perfectly valid methods of protecting yourself from all sorts of battlefield hazards even today.
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Postby Vassenor » Tue Oct 08, 2019 12:03 pm

Greater Miami Shores wrote:
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So because you don't know who they are and thus publicly write them off as biased against Trump for fatuous reasons then it's all lies.

And you don't know who they are and accept it facts lol.


Because it's not like it fits with all the facts we have seen that you keep deliberately ignoring because they don't fit your "Trump can do no wrong" narrative or anything. :roll:
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Postby Greater Miami Shores » Tue Oct 08, 2019 12:25 pm

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Greater Miami Shores wrote:And you don't know who they are and accept it facts lol.


Because it's not like it fits with all the facts we have seen that you keep deliberately ignoring because they don't fit your "Trump can do no wrong" narrative or anything. :roll:

lol I can say the same thing about you and many other fellow nations in reverse lol.
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Postby Gormwood » Tue Oct 08, 2019 12:26 pm

Greater Miami Shores wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
Because it's not like it fits with all the facts we have seen that you keep deliberately ignoring because they don't fit your "Trump can do no wrong" narrative or anything. :roll:

lol I can say the same thing about you and many other fellow nations in reverse lol.

So a course in Whataboutism at No U.
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Postby Vassenor » Tue Oct 08, 2019 12:28 pm

Greater Miami Shores wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
Because it's not like it fits with all the facts we have seen that you keep deliberately ignoring because they don't fit your "Trump can do no wrong" narrative or anything. :roll:

lol I can say the same thing about you and many other fellow nations in reverse lol.


Well thank you for admitting you have no actual arguments or evidence to present.
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Postby San Lumen » Tue Oct 08, 2019 12:28 pm

Greater Miami Shores wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
So because you don't know who they are and thus publicly write them off as biased against Trump for fatuous reasons then it's all lies.

And you don't know who they are and accept it facts lol.

Most whistleblowers remain anonymous to prevent retribution against them. I don’t understand how you can’t see Trump violated the law.

Gormwood wrote:Today, Petty Is As Petty Does: Stiffer Is As Stiffer Does Edition

Trump blasts ‘lightweight’ Minneapolis mayor as campaign threatens suit over massive rally security bill

Donny has gone on to stiff entire cities out of payment owed and is hiding behind litigation as always. And on top of that demanding the ouster of a mayor for the treason of demanding he pay the bill.

I heard he’s trying to flip Minnesota next year. That’s a great way to not do it by insulting and threatening the mayor of the largest city in the state. Hennepin County is also the most populous county in the state
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Postby Telconi » Tue Oct 08, 2019 12:50 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Greater Miami Shores wrote:And you don't know who they are and accept it facts lol.

Most whistleblowers remain anonymous to prevent retribution against them. I don’t understand how you can’t see Trump violated the law.

Gormwood wrote:Today, Petty Is As Petty Does: Stiffer Is As Stiffer Does Edition

Trump blasts ‘lightweight’ Minneapolis mayor as campaign threatens suit over massive rally security bill

Donny has gone on to stiff entire cities out of payment owed and is hiding behind litigation as always. And on top of that demanding the ouster of a mayor for the treason of demanding he pay the bill.

I heard he’s trying to flip Minnesota next year. That’s a great way to not do it by insulting and threatening the mayor of the largest city in the state. Hennepin County is also the most populous county in the state


The subject was a person who spoke to Newsweek on national security issues in regards to the Syrian withdrawal. That's not related to any legal violation, or any whistleblower.

I'm pretty sure the people who's votes he is going for aren't to concerned about the insulting of any mayor.
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Postby Stamp Out Trump » Tue Oct 08, 2019 1:23 pm

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And that was back in the summer of 2016. None of these people who bought into Trump can say they weren't warned. Zero.

Have to wonder how many Republicans came to realize Donny is just a nonstop con job but still bend over for him due to fear of humiliation and Sunk Cost Fallacy.


Sure. And one day very soon that equation will not even balance for them.

Today's WaPo poll shows 58% favor Trump impeachment with 38% against, and 49% favor his removal from office. Whoa.
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Postby San Lumen » Tue Oct 08, 2019 1:58 pm

Telconi wrote:
San Lumen wrote:Most whistleblowers remain anonymous to prevent retribution against them. I don’t understand how you can’t see Trump violated the law.


I heard he’s trying to flip Minnesota next year. That’s a great way to not do it by insulting and threatening the mayor of the largest city in the state. Hennepin County is also the most populous county in the state


The subject was a person who spoke to Newsweek on national security issues in regards to the Syrian withdrawal. That's not related to any legal violation, or any whistleblower.

I'm pretty sure the people who's votes he is going for aren't to concerned about the insulting of any mayor.

and the reason people speak with antimony is they arent authorized to talk to the media. hence why its called an anonymous source

Hennepin County is becoming increasingly blue. In fact the twin cities metro area is almost 60 percent of the state population at this point If there is similar turnout and a similar map to the Governor election from last year he doesnt have a prayer of winning the state. Insulting the states largest municipally isnt going to help him. In fact it might increase turnout there.

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Postby Miami Shores » Tue Oct 08, 2019 2:48 pm

According to the White House and the Republicans:

"the White House first noted in the letter that there has not been a formal vote in the House to open an impeachment inquiry -- and that the news conference held by Pelosi last month was insufficient to commence the proceedings.?"

White House announces it will not comply with 'illegitimate and unconstitutional' impeachment inquiry

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/impeac ... ply-pelosi

Hold the vote, this thread needs a good poll so we can all vote, many fellow nations read our posts but don't post.
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Postby Spirit of Hope » Tue Oct 08, 2019 3:09 pm

Miami Shores wrote:According to the White House and the Republicans:

"the White House first noted in the letter that there has not been a formal vote in the House to open an impeachment inquiry -- and that the news conference held by Pelosi last month was insufficient to commence the proceedings.?"

White House announces it will not comply with 'illegitimate and unconstitutional' impeachment inquiry

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/impeac ... ply-pelosi

Hold the vote, this thread needs a good poll so we can all vote, many fellow nations read our posts but don't post.

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Sound logic, I'm sure there is nothing to hide.
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Postby Thermodolia » Tue Oct 08, 2019 3:12 pm

Miami Shores wrote:According to the White House and the Republicans:

"the White House first noted in the letter that there has not been a formal vote in the House to open an impeachment inquiry -- and that the news conference held by Pelosi last month was insufficient to commence the proceedings.?"

And they would be called wrong. The constitution doesn’t require a formal vote in the House.

White House announces it will not comply with 'illegitimate and unconstitutional' impeachment inquiry

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/impeac ... ply-pelosi

Ya no. It’s not illegitimate nor unconstitutional.

Hold the vote, this thread needs a good poll so we can all vote, many fellow nations read our posts but don't post.

Again fuck that. The vote doesn’t need to be held, it’s not required. And we don’t need a poll on it in this thread. Posters aren’t required to interact in any thread
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Postby Thermodolia » Tue Oct 08, 2019 3:13 pm

Spirit of Hope wrote:
Miami Shores wrote:According to the White House and the Republicans:

"the White House first noted in the letter that there has not been a formal vote in the House to open an impeachment inquiry -- and that the news conference held by Pelosi last month was insufficient to commence the proceedings.?"

White House announces it will not comply with 'illegitimate and unconstitutional' impeachment inquiry

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/impeac ... ply-pelosi

Hold the vote, this thread needs a good poll so we can all vote, many fellow nations read our posts but don't post.

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Sound logic, I'm sure there is nothing to hide.

I unfortunately see a court case brewing. I have a feeling it’s going to go all the way to the top court
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Postby Gormwood » Tue Oct 08, 2019 3:16 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Spirit of Hope wrote:"I'm not guilty, but I won't share the evidence to prove my innocence until you vote to investigate me!"
Sound logic, I'm sure there is nothing to hide.

I unfortunately see a court case brewing. I have a feeling it’s going to go all the way to the top court

Donny hides behind lawyers from everything.
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Postby Nakena » Tue Oct 08, 2019 3:17 pm

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Thermodolia wrote:I unfortunately see a court case brewing. I have a feeling it’s going to go all the way to the top court

Donny hides behind lawyers from.everything.


No coddling today for Donny?

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Nakena wrote:
Gormwood wrote:Donny hides behind lawyers from.everything.


No coddling today for Donny?

If you want to coddle him be my guest.
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Postby Nakena » Tue Oct 08, 2019 3:23 pm

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No coddling today for Donny?

If you want to coddle him be my guest.


How about brushing his golden hair? : )

That is, of course, if you'd would be confortable to have me in the White House.
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Postby Zurkerx » Tue Oct 08, 2019 3:28 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Spirit of Hope wrote:"I'm not guilty, but I won't share the evidence to prove my innocence until you vote to investigate me!"
Sound logic, I'm sure there is nothing to hide.

I unfortunately see a court case brewing. I have a feeling it’s going to go all the way to the top court


Oh, it's bound too. Unfortunately, the earliest we would get is in the summer of 2020; be nice if they tool this up in the coming weeks in an emergency session so you know, this can be done and done.
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Postby Fartsniffage » Tue Oct 08, 2019 3:31 pm

Nakena wrote:
Gormwood wrote:Donny hides behind lawyers from.everything.


No coddling today for Donny?


I'm down for coddling Trump. :p
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Postby Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana » Tue Oct 08, 2019 3:31 pm

Knew not to jump to answers

Let’s hope this isn’t used as an excuse to disregard the report though
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