... Vassenor is Trump.
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by The Emerald Legion » Tue Oct 08, 2019 9:07 am
by Loben The 2nd » Tue Oct 08, 2019 9:22 am
Spirit of Hope wrote:Loben The 2nd wrote:
Javalins which I am sure they are putting to effective use.
Ukraine is literally at war with Russia. Russia is sending active duty soldiers in to the separatist parts of Ukraine. Russia supplies the separatist with weapons, ammunition, and other support. The Javaline is a pretty good ATGM, and can be used to engage bunkers and aircraft. So yeah, I think that Ukraine is probably putting it to good use.
by Individual 1 » Tue Oct 08, 2019 9:23 am
by Spirit of Hope » Tue Oct 08, 2019 9:26 am
Loben The 2nd wrote:Spirit of Hope wrote:Ukraine is literally at war with Russia. Russia is sending active duty soldiers in to the separatist parts of Ukraine. Russia supplies the separatist with weapons, ammunition, and other support. The Javaline is a pretty good ATGM, and can be used to engage bunkers and aircraft. So yeah, I think that Ukraine is probably putting it to good use.
Did the Russians send a declaration of war?
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by Gravlen » Tue Oct 08, 2019 11:01 am
Gormwood wrote:EXCLUSIVE: OFFICIAL WHO HEARD CALL SAYS TRUMP GOT 'ROLLED' BY TURKEY AND 'HAS NO SPINE'
Looks like any authoritarian can spanky Donny with a rolled up magazine.
"President Trump was definitely out-negotiated and only endorsed the troop withdraw to make it look like we are getting something—but we are not getting something," the National Security Council source told Newsweek. "The U.S. national security has entered a state of increased danger for decades to come because the president has no spine and that's the bottom line."
by Loben The 2nd » Tue Oct 08, 2019 11:03 am
by Gormwood » Tue Oct 08, 2019 11:04 am
Gravlen wrote:Gormwood wrote:EXCLUSIVE: OFFICIAL WHO HEARD CALL SAYS TRUMP GOT 'ROLLED' BY TURKEY AND 'HAS NO SPINE'
Looks like any authoritarian can spanky Donny with a rolled up magazine.
The most important quote of the article:"President Trump was definitely out-negotiated and only endorsed the troop withdraw to make it look like we are getting something—but we are not getting something," the National Security Council source told Newsweek. "The U.S. national security has entered a state of increased danger for decades to come because the president has no spine and that's the bottom line."
Master dealmaker with great and unmatched wisdom in action.
by Zurkerx » Tue Oct 08, 2019 11:09 am
Gravlen wrote:Gormwood wrote:EXCLUSIVE: OFFICIAL WHO HEARD CALL SAYS TRUMP GOT 'ROLLED' BY TURKEY AND 'HAS NO SPINE'
Looks like any authoritarian can spanky Donny with a rolled up magazine.
The most important quote of the article:"President Trump was definitely out-negotiated and only endorsed the troop withdraw to make it look like we are getting something—but we are not getting something," the National Security Council source told Newsweek. "The U.S. national security has entered a state of increased danger for decades to come because the president has no spine and that's the bottom line."
Master dealmaker with great and unmatched wisdom in action.
by Gormwood » Tue Oct 08, 2019 11:15 am
by Greater Miami Shores » Tue Oct 08, 2019 11:17 am
Gormwood wrote:EXCLUSIVE: OFFICIAL WHO HEARD CALL SAYS TRUMP GOT 'ROLLED' BY TURKEY AND 'HAS NO SPINE'
Looks like any authoritarian can spanky Donny with a rolled up magazine.
by Gormwood » Tue Oct 08, 2019 11:19 am
Greater Miami Shores wrote:Gormwood wrote:EXCLUSIVE: OFFICIAL WHO HEARD CALL SAYS TRUMP GOT 'ROLLED' BY TURKEY AND 'HAS NO SPINE'
Looks like any authoritarian can spanky Donny with a rolled up magazine.
"According to the National Security Council official to whom Newsweek spoke on condition of Anonymity" lol, anything anti Trump gets treated as fact around here, with personal insults against Donnie, Why am I not surprised lol?
by Ifreann » Tue Oct 08, 2019 11:21 am
Greater Miami Shores wrote:Gormwood wrote:EXCLUSIVE: OFFICIAL WHO HEARD CALL SAYS TRUMP GOT 'ROLLED' BY TURKEY AND 'HAS NO SPINE'
Looks like any authoritarian can spanky Donny with a rolled up magazine.
"According to the National Security Council official to whom Newsweek spoke on condition of Anonymity" lol, anything anti Trump gets treated as fact around here, with personal insults against Donnie, Why am I not surprised lol?
by Gravlen » Tue Oct 08, 2019 11:24 am
Miami Shores wrote:According to Republican House Devin Nunes, House Intelligence Committee Ranking Member:
The Video speaks for itself and Devin Nunes:
https://twitter.com/DevinNunes
Miami Shores wrote:https://republicans-intelligence.house.gov/news/documentsingle.aspx?DocumentID=969
A few excerpts because their is a lot here:
September 26, 2019
I want to congratulate the Democrats on the rollout of their latest information warfare operation against the President, and their extraordinary ability once again to enlist the mainstream media in their campaign.
Miami Shores wrote:The Ukrainian President denies being pressured by President Trump.
Miami Shores wrote:But that would’ve been useless for them. They don’t want answers, they want a public spectacle.
Miami Shores wrote:And so we’ve been treated to an unending parade of press releases, press conferences, and fake news stories.
Miami Shores wrote:Joe Biden bragged that he extorted the Ukrainians into firing a prosecutor, who happened to be investigating Biden’s own son.
Others have rightly pointed out that, in reality, Biden was not simply relaying the message pushed by the Obama administration, but that his position was supported by Ukrainian anti-corruption activists, European allies, and even groups like the International Monetary Foundation (IMF). As Tom Malinowski, former assistant secretary of state under Obama, recalled this week, “All of us working on Ukraine wanted this prosecutor gone, because he was NOT prosecuting corruption. So did the Europeans. So did the IMF. This didn't come from Joe Biden—he just delivered our message.”
That’s all, of course, true. Anyone interested in the success of Ukraine’s democratic transition, and its efforts to clean up rampant corruption, wanted Shokin gone. But here’s something that seems to have been lost in this geopolitical shuffle. Not only was Biden not trying to protect his son, Hunter, who was then working at a Ukrainian energy company named Burisma. If anything, what the former vice president did was make the prosecution of his son’s company more likely, not less—a fact that seems to have been overlooked, but which flips Trump’s lies on their head.
I’m not the first to make this point. A few months ago, when Giuliani first began laundering his accusations through friendly voices like The Hill’s John Solomon—a man with an outsized history of whitewashing post-Soviet kleptocracies—The Intercept’s Robert Mackey tried to untangle Giuliani’s ludicrous line of logic. Mackey’s conclusion: “By getting Shokin removed, Biden in fact made it more rather than less likely that the oligarch who employed his son would be subject to prosecution for corruption.”
“Here is why I do not say anything about Hunter Biden,” Kaleniuk explained. “Vice President Biden called for Ukraine to fire Shokin not because of the Burisma investigation, absolutely not, but because Ukraine’s prosecutor general did not investigate Burisma. U.S. Ambassador Geoffrey Pyatt insisted [in early 2016] that Shokin should be investigating Burisma. The U.S. government had a clear position: the Burisma probe was killed by Shokin.” And the U.S. thought it and other cases should not have been closed.
[...]
When Hunter Biden started working with the company in May of 2014, it had just had its assets frozen in the United Kingdom, where it was investigated for money laundering.
“I realize that it is very strange that Hunter Biden was working for Burisma,” says Kaleniuk. “I might be the first one to say bad things about Joe Biden’s movements in regard to this case, but I don’t.”
Why? Because far from trying to protect his son from the broader investigation that might establish Hunter received money gained illegally by Burisma’s founder, “Joe Biden wanted to prove it,” that Burisma was crooked. “He tried to make Shokin investigate that,” Kaleniuk said.
“One thing should be clear for everybody today: Joe Biden wanted to fire the prosecutor who did not want to investigate Burisma, where his son was working. That is very important.” Kaleniuk added that “everybody wanted Shokin fired.”
Miami Shores wrote:For the rest read Devin Nunes official statement.
I agree, but I am sure anti Trumpers will disagree.
by Gormwood » Tue Oct 08, 2019 11:24 am
Ifreann wrote:Greater Miami Shores wrote:"According to the National Security Council official to whom Newsweek spoke on condition of Anonymity" lol, anything anti Trump gets treated as fact around here, with personal insults against Donnie, Why am I not surprised lol?
Whereas you don't believe the Trump White House about the content of Trump's call with the President of Ukraine when I show you Trump asking for a favour when Zelensky says he wants to buy more missiles.
by Greater Miami Shores » Tue Oct 08, 2019 11:26 am
Gormwood wrote:Ifreann wrote:Whereas you don't believe the Trump White House about the content of Trump's call with the President of Ukraine when I show you Trump asking for a favour when Zelensky says he wants to buy more missiles.
When partisan hackery enables you to go beyond Baghdad Bob levels of denial regarding evidence.
by Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Tue Oct 08, 2019 11:27 am
Greater Miami Shores wrote:Gormwood wrote:When partisan hackery enables you to go beyond Baghdad Bob levels of denial regarding evidence.
The article says: "According to the National Security Council official to whom Newsweek spoke on condition of Anonymity"
Where is the evidence, where is the whistleblower ? lol.
by Ifreann » Tue Oct 08, 2019 11:28 am
Greater Miami Shores wrote:Gormwood wrote:When partisan hackery enables you to go beyond Baghdad Bob levels of denial regarding evidence.
The article says: "According to the National Security Council official to whom Newsweek spoke on condition of Anonymity"
Where is the evidence, where is the whistleblower ? lol.
by Gravlen » Tue Oct 08, 2019 11:29 am
Gormwood wrote:U.S. Officials Caught Off Guard By Trump's Shift In Northern Syria
We keep forgetting that he knows more than the generals.
"When I took over our military, we did not have ammunition," Trump said. "I was told by a top general, maybe the top of them all, 'Sir, I'm sorry sir, we don't have ammunition.' I said, 'I'll never let another president have that happen to him or her.' We didn't have ammunition."
by Gormwood » Tue Oct 08, 2019 11:34 am
Gravlen wrote:Gormwood wrote:U.S. Officials Caught Off Guard By Trump's Shift In Northern Syria
We keep forgetting that he knows more than the generals.
Well, when the Top General of the US comes to cry in front of him in his office because the US military is out of ammo, it's understandable why he has no faith in his military men:"When I took over our military, we did not have ammunition," Trump said. "I was told by a top general, maybe the top of them all, 'Sir, I'm sorry sir, we don't have ammunition.' I said, 'I'll never let another president have that happen to him or her.' We didn't have ammunition."
by Vassenor » Tue Oct 08, 2019 11:40 am
Greater Miami Shores wrote:Gormwood wrote:When partisan hackery enables you to go beyond Baghdad Bob levels of denial regarding evidence.
The article says: "According to the National Security Council official to whom Newsweek spoke on condition of Anonymity"
Where is the evidence, where is the whistleblower ? Is he an anti Trumper ? lol.
by Stamp Out Trump » Tue Oct 08, 2019 11:42 am
Gormwood wrote:Gravlen wrote:Well, when the Top General of the US comes to cry in front of him in his office because the US military is out of ammo, it's understandable why he has no faith in his military men:"When I took over our military, we did not have ammunition," Trump said. "I was told by a top general, maybe the top of them all, 'Sir, I'm sorry sir, we don't have ammunition.' I said, 'I'll never let another president have that happen to him or her.' We didn't have ammunition."
Just one of many examples why Fareed Zakaria openly called Donny a bullshit artist in front of a camera.
by Gormwood » Tue Oct 08, 2019 11:44 am
by The Emerald Legion » Tue Oct 08, 2019 11:44 am
Gormwood wrote:Gravlen wrote:Well, when the Top General of the US comes to cry in front of him in his office because the US military is out of ammo, it's understandable why he has no faith in his military men:"When I took over our military, we did not have ammunition," Trump said. "I was told by a top general, maybe the top of them all, 'Sir, I'm sorry sir, we don't have ammunition.' I said, 'I'll never let another president have that happen to him or her.' We didn't have ammunition."
Just one of many examples why Fareed Zakaria openly called Donny a bullshit artist in front of a camera.
by Gormwood » Tue Oct 08, 2019 11:47 am
by The Emerald Legion » Tue Oct 08, 2019 11:49 am
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