MAGAThread XVI: Raising the Barr

[Munkcestrian Republic]

you’ve just been given something relevant, buddy

How is the phone call relevant to the motivations of people not involved in the phone call?

The contents of the phone call are the motivation. Happy to help

[Telconi]

How is the phone call relevant to the motivations of people not involved in the phone call?

The contents of the phone call are the motivation. Happy to help

You know this because?

[Miami Shores]

Donnie has a right to be angry at the Democrats, I would, you would and we would, if we were President of America and were being impeached by the Democrats for political reasons lol.

I mean, he has the right to be angry because they want to impeach him, period. I don't think anyone would be glad for being impeached. But to claim this is for political reasons, rather than because he made a request from a foreign country to sabotage one of his rivals is a bit dishonest.

lol the Democrats have been trying to get rid of Donnie and find political dirt on him since the first day of the elections, remember protesting against the electoral college results, saying the electors should vote against Donnie.

If the whistleblower is not a Democrat he or she is an anti Trumper, and he or she will be known to the Democrats and Republicans on the committee, according to my sources the whistleblower will appear before the committee without a lawyer by agreement of the committee.

If the Democrats have their smoking gun in the phone call they don't need more information, they don't need more phone calls with other world leaders. They are trying to drag this out throughout the election season to weaken President Trump's chances of reelection, they might not even take an official impeachment vote on it, especially if the Republicans have enough votes in the Senate to not convict Donnie.

President Trump is right to be angry and call this a witch hunt and a political coup d etat attempt by the non partisan Democrats. Now they want to search all or many of his phone calls with foreign leaders of many nations. The whistleblower can be a set up a kind of spy.

Nancy Pelosi has stated on National TV Democrats will pursue this impeachment based on Patriotism not partisan politics, lol by saying they will pursue this impeachment based on Patriotism she is admitting political reasons. She says she will treat President Trump fairly how nice of her lol.

Democrat Adam Schiff said he did not know anything about the whistleblower, that was a lie, Democrat Adam Schiff read his own summary of the phone call on national TV twisting Donnie's words to make it sound worse and refuses to apologize.

Who would be happy if Donnie were impeached and removed from office, the Democrats in congress, the democratic base, the squad, the leftists on the view, the Democratic socialists of America, the Democratic Presidential Candidates and many of our fellow nations on NS lol.

Lets stop denying the Democrats aren't doing this impeachment against Donnie for political reasons.

[Necroghastia]

I mean, he has the right to be angry because they want to impeach him, period. I don't think anyone would be glad for being impeached. But to claim this is for political reasons, rather than because he made a request from a foreign country to sabotage one of his rivals is a bit dishonest.

lol the Democrats have been trying to get rid of Donnie and find political dirt on him since the first day of the elections, remember protesting against the electoral college results, saying the electors should vote against Donnie.

If the whistleblower is not a Democrat he or she is an anti Trumper, and he or she will be known to the Democrats and Republicans on the committee, according to my sources the whistleblower will appear before the committee without a lawyer by agreement of the committee.

The contents of the phone call are the motivation. Happy to help

You know this because?

I think president Trump has not committed an impeachable crime.
It is natural to assume the whistleblower is anti Trump
most people are anti-crime. lol I'm having a lol attack

Regardless of whether or not a crime was committed, if you suspected that one had been, would you not report it?

[Telconi]

lol the Democrats have been trying to get rid of Donnie and find political dirt on him since the first day of the elections, remember protesting against the electoral college results, saying the electors should vote against Donnie.

If the whistleblower is not a Democrat he or she is an anti Trumper, and he or she will be known to the Democrats and Republicans on the committee, according to my sources the whistleblower will appear before the committee without a lawyer by agreement of the committee.

You know this because?

Regardless of whether or not a crime was committed, if you suspected that one had been, would you not report it?

Not necessarily.

[Gormwood]

Not necessarily.

Abetting a crime to Own The Libs.

[Telconi]

Not necessarily.

Abetting a crime to Own The Libs.

That's not what the word abetting means.

[Uiiop]

Dubya worship is just what why no why are you rehabilitating George Walker Bush

I'm not rehabilitating him, I'm saying as much of a deceitful little shit as he was he looks like an angel when compared to Trump.

To play devil's advocate some would say he's only an angel in comparison because whether we like ir or not we decided to live with what Bush did and treat what he done's as status quo.

Who can say? maybe by the time the next democrat's term ends we swallow the travel ban , The ramped up state of detainment(like we did with Obama), and/or the asylum restrictions if only begrudging.

[Bear Stearns]

Dubya worship is just what why no why are you rehabilitating George Walker Bush

I'm not rehabilitating him, I'm saying as much of a deceitful little shit as he was he looks like an angel when compared to Trump.

Trump started a war that killed over 1,000,000 people based on a lie and indirectly created ISIS?

You think Bush is better because he came off as an affable frat boy, whereas Trump is crude and mean. Never mind the fact that his theories of "nation-building" and "homeland security" are why the Middle East and US homefront are so messed up right now.

Did you know his policies also created the largest financial bubble in history?

[Bear Stearns]

I'm not rehabilitating him, I'm saying as much of a deceitful little shit as he was he looks like an angel when compared to Trump.

To play devil's advocate some would say he's only an angel in comparison because whether we like ir or not we decided to live with what Bush did and treat what he done's as status quo.

Wars for oil are the status quo!

[Uiiop]

I'm not rehabilitating him, I'm saying as much of a deceitful little shit as he was he looks like an angel when compared to Trump.

Trump started a war that killed over 1,000,000 people based on a lie and indirectly created ISIS?

To play devil's advocate on his side Foreign policy is an issue it's an systemic and not an individual one. A president following the party line is not as bad as someone who is mean along with affecting domestically...

Nah can't do it. Though i could and stay neutral but oof.

[Bear Stearns]

Trump started a war that killed over 1,000,000 people based on a lie and indirectly created ISIS?

To play devil's advocate on his side Foreign policy is an issue it's an systemic and not an individual one.

It was systemic of Bush & Co. Neither Gore nor McCain would have started that war.

A president following the party line is not as bad as someone

The Republican party line in 2003 was evil.

who is mean along with affecting domestically...

Do not care.

[Major-Tom]

Dubya worship is just what why no why are you rehabilitating George Walker Bush

I'm not rehabilitating him, I'm saying as much of a deceitful little shit as he was he looks like an angel when compared to Trump.

They're both atrocious in their own ways - Trump for routinely and constantly circumventing the law and stirring up hate for his own gain, all the while acting like a wannabe authoritarian. And Bush for plunging us into a disastrous war and curtailing quite heavily the civil liberties we should hold dear, as well as helping contribute to the further decline of the working and middle classes.

Bush and Trump should both go down in the dustbins of history, additionally both are criminals in their own right.

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

just saw clips of trump really unhinged going at it with the media using the finn president as a stick to hit them with

i mean
yeah he's gonna go postal soon

Donnie has a right to defend himself against a political impeachment effort by the Democrats, I would, you would and we would if we were President of America.

I'll take "What is auctoritas?" for 200 points.

[Bombadil]

I'm not rehabilitating him, I'm saying as much of a deceitful little shit as he was he looks like an angel when compared to Trump.

Trump started a war that killed over 1,000,000 people based on a lie and indirectly created ISIS?

You think Bush is better because he came off as an affable frat boy, whereas Trump is crude and mean. Never mind the fact that his theories of "nation-building" and "homeland security" are why the Middle East and US homefront are so messed up right now.

Did you know his policies also created the largest financial bubble in history?

I'm not saying he's better, I'm saying in comparison to Trump and Trump alone he acted more presidential.

[Greater Miami Shores]

Donnie has a right to defend himself against a political impeachment effort by the Democrats, I would, you would and we would if we were President of America.

I'll take "What is auctoritas?" for 200 points.

I have never seen that word in my life and I had to look it up, and I still don't know what the heck your saying lol?

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

I'll take "What is auctoritas?" for 200 points.

I have never seen that word in my life and I had to look it up, and I still don't know what the heck your saying lol?

Here you go. Though I'm probably referring to the Roman term in combination with Dignitas. Of which Donald Trump demonstrated neither when he went out on an irate rant against his political opponents in front of the Finnish president.

[Nakena]

Trump greatest crime is undoubtly the desecrating of the beloved halls and everything the upper political sphere of which people like Pelosi, Clinton and their many likeminded associated hold holy and dearly. Most unforgiving that he, this nobody, this smut-paddleing, gutter-tier gestalt from the depths of the tabloid world, dared to win the election of 2016.

So much hurtfulness, saltyness and indignation those he causes, that it can be felt and seen in their faces. Nor can they find blissfull retreat in the blissfull ignorance under the comfy cover of the national flag, as Bush and his Wars allowed and still allow. They are forced to endure and to face him, as through his every action he's exposing the shortcomings and fragility of the political system they thought to be the masters of.

For this they hate him and will never forgive him.

[Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States]

Trump greatest crime is undoubtly the desecrating of the beloved halls and everything the upper political sphere of which people like Pelosi, Clinton and their many likeminded associated hold holy and dearly. Most unforgiving that he, this nobody, this smut-paddleing, gutter-tier gestalt from the depths of the tabloid world, dared to win the election of 2016.

So much hurtfulness, saltyness and indignation those he causes, that it can be felt and seen in their faces. Nor can they find blissfull retreat in the blissfull ignorance under the comfy cover of the national flag, as Bush and his Wars allowed and still allow. They are forced to endure and to face him, as through his every action he's exposing the shortcomings and fragility of the political system they thought to be the masters of.

For this they hate him and will never forgive him.

Hmmm, I do think the greatest crime is the actual violations of the US criminal code.

[Washington Resistance Army]

The factual motivations of everyone involved in the investigation have been presented? Got a link?

Read Trump's phone conversation with Volodymyr Zelensky

tbh I expected there to be a lot more juicy stuff in there, that all felt pretty weak

[Duhon]

Trump greatest crime is undoubtly the desecrating of the beloved halls and everything the upper political sphere of which people like Pelosi, Clinton and their many likeminded associated hold holy and dearly. Most unforgiving that he, this nobody, this smut-paddleing, gutter-tier gestalt from the depths of the tabloid world, dared to win the election of 2016.

So much hurtfulness, saltyness and indignation those he causes, that it can be felt and seen in their faces. Nor can they find blissfull retreat in the blissfull ignorance under the comfy cover of the national flag, as Bush and his Wars allowed and still allow. They are forced to endure and to face him, as through his every action he's exposing the shortcomings and fragility of the political system they thought to be the masters of.

For this they hate him and will never forgive him.

you speak of him as if there is an upside to be had

[Washington Resistance Army]

Trump greatest crime is undoubtly the desecrating of the beloved halls and everything the upper political sphere of which people like Pelosi, Clinton and their many likeminded associated hold holy and dearly. Most unforgiving that he, this nobody, this smut-paddleing, gutter-tier gestalt from the depths of the tabloid world, dared to win the election of 2016.

So much hurtfulness, saltyness and indignation those he causes, that it can be felt and seen in their faces. Nor can they find blissfull retreat in the blissfull ignorance under the comfy cover of the national flag, as Bush and his Wars allowed and still allow. They are forced to endure and to face him, as through his every action he's exposing the shortcomings and fragility of the political system they thought to be the masters of.

For this they hate him and will never forgive him.

you speak of him as if there is an upside to be had

There's been a few, albeit I think he has passed his useful idiot stage.

[Salandriagado]

The markets are all run by robots now, which causes these sudden jerks whenever the they all hit the same trigger. I've stopped reacting to single day or one or two day sudden movements in the stock market (well, in so much as my 'no money to invest anyway' ass reacts to the markets at all). When it's a trend over the course of a week or two, then...

I thought they stripped out most of the automatics after 2008?

Don't be silly: that would mean actually making structural changes to avoid repeats of known problems. They just slapped a new coat of paint on it and carried on, just as they did with the CDOs.

[Salandriagado]

Writing articles off based entirely on the publication. Everybody drink.

Oh, Breitbart said it. Guess it must be true.

Hmmm.....

"This direct quote from person X isn't reflective of what person X said because of who is quoting it" and "this unsubstantiated claim from a disreputable source isn't automatically correct without some other evidence" are not the same.

[Salandriagado]

Deductions based on presented facts are now psychic clairvoyance.

The factual motivations of everyone involved in the investigation have been presented? Got a link?

The factual motivations of everyone involved in the investigation are irrelevant. What's relevant is that Trump openly solicited foreign interference in an election.