MAGAThread XVI: Raising the Barr

[Duhon]

Honestly if you read FOX you'd think this is a scandal about Biden. 538.com ran an analysis of keywords across media and FOX is severely skewed to talking about Ukraine and Biden as a scandal.

Which is not surprising. Fox is practically Trump's idea of a State Media though he seems not happy with them right now given they won't cover him positively on every single occasion.

an insufficient level of worship might as well be blasphemy to the chosen one

[Greater Miami Shores]

Which is not surprising. Fox is practically Trump's idea of a State Media though he seems not happy with them right now given they won't cover him positively on every single occasion.

an insufficient level of worship might as well be blasphemy to the chosen one

I bow to my God Emperor Donnie with Pride Dear Leader.

GMS Alberto

[San Lumen]

They're lying, they don't even know who the whisteblower is so how the fuck do they know their history?

According to my sources the whistleblower will appear before the committee of Democrats and Republicans without a lawyer by agreement of the committee, with or without a lawyer, the whistleblower will be known to the Democrats and the Republicans on the committee.

It is natural to assume the whistleblower is anti Trump.

Because they present wrongdoing they are anti trump? That’s an insane argument. Plus the alleged letter doesn’t exist. I dare the justice department to start indictments over this letter no one can produce. Trump will turn off even more people

[Spirit of Hope]

And President Trump has lied on multiple occasions, including on national television, on his twitter, and from the oval office. If the worst thing you can say about Representative Schiff is that he lied about how much he knew about the whistle blower before the complaint was made then you don't have a lot to complain about.

Biased Democrat Adam Schiff should be investigate it by the Senate Republicans, I hear they are going to investigate many Democrats related to the Ukraine issue, Joe Biden, his son Hunter and other Democrats.

Their is a letter written by 3 Democrat Senators threatening Ukraine to do things their way against the Republicans on the Ukraine issue or future aid could be in trouble t it when I have it, I believe it will be presented by Republicans on the House committee.

Representative Schiff has committed no crime that I am aware of, the worst you could say is he was less than clear in how his office was related to the whistleblower. Vice President Biden and his son also committed no crimes, and there is no evidence they committed any crimes.

The 3 Democrats sent a letter saying that if Ukraine didn't cooperate with an ongoing investigation by the US Justice Department that aid to Ukraine might be withdrawn or withheld. This is different from asking the President of Ukraine to start a new investigation in his own country, based on no evidence, into a domestic political rival.

[Fartsniffage]

most people are anti-crime.

I think president Trump has not committed an impeachable crime.
It is natural to assume the whistleblower is anti Trump
most people are anti-crime. lol I'm having a lol attack

If the evidence shows that Trump has committed a crime then will you change your opinion?

[Greater Miami Shores]

According to my sources the whistleblower will appear before the committee of Democrats and Republicans without a lawyer by agreement of the committee, with or without a lawyer, the whistleblower will be known to the Democrats and the Republicans on the committee.

It is natural to assume the whistleblower is anti Trump.

Because they present wrongdoing they are anti trump? That’s an insane argument. Plus the alleged letter doesn’t exist. I dare the justice department to start indictments over this letter no one can produce. Trump will turn off even more people

Again lets not deny the anti Trump politics of this impeachment drive by the Democrats. They want to drag this out throughout the election season to weaken Trump, they might not even take an official vote on it, especially if the Republicans in the Senate have the votes to not convict Trump.

We need a Public Poll on this thread, we need to be able to make public polls on all our General and RP threads again.

[Zurkerx]

I think president Trump has not committed an impeachable crime.
It is natural to assume the whistleblower is anti Trump
most people are anti-crime. lol I'm having a lol attack

If the evidence shows that Trump has committed a crime then will you change your opinion?

I honestly doubt he will. At this point, a majority of Trump's Base has made up it's mind: Trump is not guilty because to them, it's a witch hunt. No facts, evidence, or video recordings will change that just like Democrats are fully convinced Trump should be impeached. It all comes down to those sweet independents, whom are currently split right now.

[Necroghastia]

most people are anti-crime.

I think president Trump has not committed an impeachable crime.
It is natural to assume the whistleblower is anti Trump
most people are anti-crime. lol I'm having a lol attack

Regardless of whether or not a crime was committed, if you suspected that one had been, would you not report it?

[Bombadil]

Which is not surprising. Fox is practically Trump's idea of a State Media though he seems not happy with them right now given they won't cover him positively on every single occasion.

There’s no pleasing the Dear Leader

Another issue is that any of the main media is not watched by a great majority of people. Take a look at these two news organisations..

https://www.christianpost.com
https://www.christianexaminer.com

You wouldn't even know there was an impeachment case going on, as they flick from online news such as these and their daily money-grubbing sermons, people remain blissfully unaware of Trump's many transgressions.

[Thermodolia]

There’s no pleasing the Dear Leader

Another issue is that any of the main media is not watched by a great majority of people. Take a look at these two news organisations..

https://www.christianpost.com
https://www.christianexaminer.com

You wouldn't even know there was an impeachment case going on, as they flick from online news such as these and their daily money-grubbing sermons, people remain blissfully unaware of Trump's many transgressions.

This assumes that a majority of people read those types of news sites and that they don’t cater to a select group

[Bombadil]

Another issue is that any of the main media is not watched by a great majority of people. Take a look at these two news organisations..

https://www.christianpost.com
https://www.christianexaminer.com

You wouldn't even know there was an impeachment case going on, as they flick from online news such as these and their daily money-grubbing sermons, people remain blissfully unaware of Trump's many transgressions.

This assumes that a majority of people read those types of news sites and that they don’t cater to a select group

It's not to say a majority read these particular news sites, just that many are entirely oblivious the many issues with Trump.

[Hurtful Thoughts]

So... have the democrates decided upon a nominee yet?

I mean, it's only 3 more weeks to election-day...

Would be awful embarrassing if the DNC didn't even put a single candidate on the ballot against Trump for 2020.

[Gormwood]

So... have the democrates decided upon a nominee yet?

I mean, it's only 3 more weeks to election-day...

It's 2020 already?

[San Lumen]

So... have the democrates decided upon a nominee yet?

I mean, it's only 3 more weeks to election-day...

Would be awful embarrassing if the DNC didn't even put a single candidate on the ballot against Trump for 2020.

The presidential election is next year. This year is many municipal and county elections. State legislative elections in New Jersey and Virginia and statewide elections in Louisiana, Mississippi and Kentucky including Governor.

There is a whole thread on it if your interested viewtopic.php?f=20&t=458107

[Greater Miami Shores]

So... have the democrates decided upon a nominee yet?

I mean, it's only 3 more weeks to election-day...

Would be awful embarrassing if the DNC didn't even put a single candidate on the ballot against Trump for 2020.

I would love that lol.

[San Lumen]

Because they present wrongdoing they are anti trump? That’s an insane argument. Plus the alleged letter doesn’t exist. I dare the justice department to start indictments over this letter no one can produce. Trump will turn off even more people

Again lets not deny the anti Trump politics of this impeachment drive by the Democrats. They want to drag this out throughout the election season to weaken Trump, they might not even take an official vote on it, especially if the Republicans in the Senate have the votes to not convict Trump.

We need a Public Poll on this thread, we need to be able to make public polls on all our General and RP threads again.

He literally asked for a favor from the Ukrainian president to investigate a political rival. That is illegal. Why is that so difficult to understand? They will take a vote and their will be a vote in the Senate. McConnell himself said they have to hold a trial and conviction vote.

[Gormwood]

Stable Genius At Work.

Trump's day of rage: Profanity, false accusations and a press spat

[San Lumen]

Stable Genius At Work.

Trump's day of rage: Profanity, false accusations and a press spat

and most of his base believes every word he says. I wish he'd say the Earth is flat. Id love to see how many of them believe it simply because he said it

[Miami Shores]

Stable Genius At Work.

Trump's day of rage: Profanity, false accusations and a press spat

and most of his base believes every word he says. I wish he'd say the Earth is flat. Id love to see how many of them believe it simply because he said it

And I believe most of the Democrat base believes Donnie is guilty because the Democrats say he is.

[San Lumen]

and most of his base believes every word he says. I wish he'd say the Earth is flat. Id love to see how many of them believe it simply because he said it

And I believe most of the Democrat base believes Donnie is guilty because the Democrats say he is.

Unequivocally false. I and many other Democrats believe in facts and the rule of law unlike Trump and fair number of Republicans

Trump literally asked for a favor from the Ukrainian president to investigate a political rival. That is illegal under election law. Why is that so difficult to understand? They will take a vote and their will be a vote in the Senate. McConnell himself said they have to hold a trial and conviction vote.

[Miami Shores]

And I believe most of the Democrat base believes Donnie is guilty because the Democrats say he is.

Unequivocally false. I and many other Democrats believe in facts and the rule of law unlike Trump and fair number of Republicans

Trump literally asked for a favor from the Ukrainian president to investigate a political rival. That is illegal under election law. Why is that so difficult to understand? They will take a vote and their will be a vote in the Senate. McConnell himself said they have to hold a trial and conviction vote.

Sounds like tried and convicted by the Democrats lol.

[San Lumen]

Unequivocally false. I and many other Democrats believe in facts and the rule of law unlike Trump and fair number of Republicans

Trump literally asked for a favor from the Ukrainian president to investigate a political rival. That is illegal under election law. Why is that so difficult to understand? They will take a vote and their will be a vote in the Senate. McConnell himself said they have to hold a trial and conviction vote.

Sounds like tried and convicted by the Democrats lol.

What part of it is illegal to ask for interference from a foreign country in a election do you not understand? The prosecutor in Ukraine said publicity Biden did nothing wrong.

[Miami Shores]

Sounds like tried and convicted by the Democrats lol.

What part of it is illegal to ask for interference from a foreign country in a election do you not understand? The prosecutor in Ukraine said publicity Biden did nothing wrong.

This is kind of my point on most of my posts, you guys cant seem to consider Donnie might be innocent of an impeachable crime.

[San Lumen]

What part of it is illegal to ask for interference from a foreign country in a election do you not understand? The prosecutor in Ukraine said publicity Biden did nothing wrong.

This is my point on most of my posts, you guys cant seem to consider Donnie might be innocent of an impeachable crime.

Except that is exactly what he did. He asked for the President of Ukraine to dig up dirt on a political opponent and then tried to cover it up. How can you not see that?

[Hurtful Thoughts]

And I believe most of the Democrat base believes Donnie is guilty because the Democrats say he is.

Unequivocally false. I and many other Democrats believe in facts and the rule of law unlike Trump and fair number of Republicans

Trump literally asked for a favor from the Ukrainian president to investigate a political rival. That is illegal under election law. Why is that so difficult to understand? They will take a vote and their will be a vote in the Senate. McConnell himself said they have to hold a trial and conviction vote.

Hunter Biden is Joe Biden's running-mate?

Last I checked the Ukranian investigation ended in 2015, so the sealed resaults of the case-findings are probably what you mean?