MAGAThread XVI: Raising the Barr

[Moral Absolutism Inc]

No. You are sticking completely to GOP talking points which do not allow yourself to think about the facts at hand. There is no coup d'état attempt. That's hogwash. There is a POTUS invoking a civil war on twitter bc he's being investigated for incriminating himself with a transcription of a phone call which he foolishly asked a foreign leader for dirt on his leading political opponent. Of course, you don't want to know that, but there it is.

Impeachment is literally a political coup d'état. Oh, sorry, I forget where I'm at (NationStates political discourse).
HuRr dUrR, the Trump is stoking cIvAl wAr and I'm totally not an absolute partisan hack for pretending that Obama, who supported Hillary, leading an investigations into Trump during the election is not the same thing (it is, under Biden's watch no-less). No, this is different and worse because it's tangentially similar to my Russian conspiracy theory hoax. Let's now build a campaign out if removing the president wItHoUt cOnSeQuEnEeS.

I'm assuming you voted for Trump because, politically, he seems to be your political peer and equal from the way you describe him.

Wrong. Impeachment is the bringing of charges against a government official to the US Senate. Please obtain some critical thinking skills on the rest of your DiATribE. I have better posts to answer.

[Gormwood]

At least you admit the Clinton impeachment was a coup attempt.

it's a good thing he left office before all the women he raped started coming forward, otherwise it would have been justified after the fact.

Justified coup. Pffft. Oh hey, wonder if Kram came back?

[The Black Forrest]

Impeachment is literally a political coup d'état. Oh, sorry, I forget where I'm at (NationStates political discourse).
HuRr dUrR, the Trump is stoking cIvAl wAr and I'm totally not an absolute partisan hack for pretending that Obama, who supported Hillary, leading an investigations into Trump during the election is not the same thing (it is, under Biden's watch no-less). No, this is different and worse because it's tangentially similar to my Russian conspiracy theory hoax. Let's now build a campaign out if removing the president wItHoUt cOnSeQuEnEeS.

I'm assuming you voted for Trump because, politically, he seems to be your political peer and equal from the way you describe him.

Hmmm? No it’s not a political coup d’etat. For that to happen the demos would have to take over the President. You still have Pence and if he is forced out?....they needed to go.

If you want an investigation of Biden; you will need a little more ammo then his political talk. One thing that fails to get mentioned over the ouster of that guy is the fact the WTO and the banking community called for it as well. That had more effect then Biden.

With what has been presented; it’s nothing more then shit spewing by Donnie which touches on the dog whistle of the deep state which works with his base.

Pence is probably the more desirable for the Republicans. He will be a good sock puppet for their plans. Old Mitch probably had meetings with him over the possibility. I am sure they are planning on Nikki Haley to take his VIP spot as a move to show how cool they really are.

We will see.....

[Ngelmish]

Why are Trump's insults and blatant lies ok then?

Has anyone said they are?

Well...

Maybe we'd hear the rebuke louder if Donny wore a tan suit or put French mustard on a burger.

Or championed worse policies.

...those subscribing to situational ethics don't seem too concerned with them, in lieu of applying a consistent ethical standard regardless of subjective policy value. That may not have occurred to you.

[Telconi]

Has anyone said they are?

Well...

Or championed worse policies.

...those subscribing to situational ethics don't seem too concerned with them, in lieu of applying a consistent ethical standard regardless of subjective policy value. That may not have occurred to you.

And what value does a consistent ethical standard have?

[Thermodolia]

Impeachment is literally a political coup d'état. Oh, sorry, I forget where I'm at (NationStates political discourse).
HuRr dUrR, the Trump is stoking cIvAl wAr and I'm totally not an absolute partisan hack for pretending that Obama, who supported Hillary, leading an investigations into Trump during the election is not the same thing (it is, under Biden's watch no-less). No, this is different and worse because it's tangentially similar to my Russian conspiracy theory hoax. Let's now build a campaign out if removing the president wItHoUt cOnSeQuEnEeS.

I'm assuming you voted for Trump because, politically, he seems to be your political peer and equal from the way you describe him.

Hmmm? No it’s not a political coup d’etat. For that to happen the demos would have to take over the President. You still have Pence and if he is forced out?....they needed to go.

If you want an investigation of Biden; you will need a little more ammo then his political talk. One thing that fails to get mentioned over the ouster of that guy is the fact the WTO and the banking community called for it as well. That had more effect then Biden.

With what has been presented; it’s nothing more then shit spewing by Donnie which touches on the dog whistle of the deep state which works with his base.

Pence is probably the more desirable for the Republicans. He will be a good sock puppet for their plans. Old Mitch probably had meetings with him over the possibility. I am sure they are planning on Nikki Haley to take his VIP spot as a move to show how cool they really are.

We will see.....

A pence administration would be definitely more palatable to the republicans than Trump.

[Greater Miami Shores]

Impeachment is literally a political coup d'état. Oh, sorry, I forget where I'm at (NationStates political discourse).
HuRr dUrR, the Trump is stoking cIvAl wAr and I'm totally not an absolute partisan hack for pretending that Obama, who supported Hillary, leading an investigations into Trump during the election is not the same thing (it is, under Biden's watch no-less). No, this is different and worse because it's tangentially similar to my Russian conspiracy theory hoax. Let's now build a campaign out if removing the president wItHoUt cOnSeQuEnEeS.

I'm assuming you voted for Trump because, politically, he seems to be your political peer and equal from the way you describe him.

Wrong. Impeachment is the bringing of charges against a government official to the US Senate. Please obtain some critical thinking skills on the rest of your DiATribE. I have better posts to answer.

All I know is The House of Representative impeaches and the Senate convicts.

It depends on the case, I think Watergate was proven beyond a doubt for me, Clinton's was wrong, dumb and stupid, Trump's is a biased political coup d'état attempt by the biased Democrats in congress from the first day of the elections, we have a right to our views just like you all have a right to your views, no need for so called insults and disrespect from our fellow nations as I have been disrespected on this thread, which doesn't bother me and is on my posts and sigs, But I will point it out as unnecessary, I for one don't do this back.

Here I go again repeating my self like a broken record:
I have come to the conclusion that we are not here on NS to argue, debate or discuss our different economic, political and social views on any issues and Trump's impeachment attempt, we are here on NS to argue, debate, discuss and share our different economic, political and social views on all issues including Trump's impeachment attempt, not to change each others minds on this issue or any other issues, it is called politics on both the right and the left in Context.

I hope I don't get in trouble with the moderators for this example, I have a clean record I am very proud of and wish to keep clean. Perfect example and I will relate it to the thread. No matter what Video Links I present of the CDR Committees for the Defense of the eternal Cuban revolution, calling Cuban Americans and Cubans in Cuba, anti social, anti democratic, anti revolutionary, gusano worms, escoria scums, Cuban American Miami Mafia elements, La Gusanera, out with the gusano worms, down with the gusano worms, we don't need them, while the police stand by and do nothing, they used to throw eggs at us no wonder their is an egg shortage in Cuba lol. I will never convince my fellow nations who support, deny and or excuse the eternal revolutionary regime of Cuba under Fidel, Raúl and Diaz-Canel, their are even fellow right wing nations on NS who support, deny and or excuse them and they have a democratic right too. And when they want our hard currencies and care packages including toilet paper and medicines, they call us their overseas Cuban American immigrant community lol. This includes Europeans, Canadians, Australian, New Zealander, Brazilian and all overseas Cubans all over the world. Perfect example, I hope I don't get in trouble with the moderators for this exsample, I have a clean record I am very proud of and wish to keep clean. To relate it to the thread supported by all the Democratic Party candidates and Bernie Sanders in particular, no Bernie is not a communist but he does have feelings of support for the revolution, I can post the links but this is not the thread for it.

[Alt-Right Death Squad]

Hmmm? No it’s not a political coup d’etat. For that to happen the demos would have to take over the President. You still have Pence and if he is forced out?....they needed to go.

If you want an investigation of Biden; you will need a little more ammo then his political talk. One thing that fails to get mentioned over the ouster of that guy is the fact the WTO and the banking community called for it as well. That had more effect then Biden.

With what has been presented; it’s nothing more then shit spewing by Donnie which touches on the dog whistle of the deep state which works with his base.

Pence is probably the more desirable for the Republicans. He will be a good sock puppet for their plans. Old Mitch probably had meetings with him over the possibility. I am sure they are planning on Nikki Haley to take his VIP spot as a move to show how cool they really are.

We will see.....

Convenient that it's so close to an election.

Self criminalization is plenty of evidence for an investigation, we aren't arresting the man.

Admittedly, it's why I'd like for the Dems to actually impeach in the house.

I used to think that, but I don't think the Republican will survive from the fallout. It be wig party v2.

[San Lumen]

Hmmm? No it’s not a political coup d’etat. For that to happen the demos would have to take over the President. You still have Pence and if he is forced out?....they needed to go.

If you want an investigation of Biden; you will need a little more ammo then his political talk. One thing that fails to get mentioned over the ouster of that guy is the fact the WTO and the banking community called for it as well. That had more effect then Biden.

With what has been presented; it’s nothing more then shit spewing by Donnie which touches on the dog whistle of the deep state which works with his base.

Pence is probably the more desirable for the Republicans. He will be a good sock puppet for their plans. Old Mitch probably had meetings with him over the possibility. I am sure they are planning on Nikki Haley to take his VIP spot as a move to show how cool they really are.

We will see.....

A pence administration would be definitely more palatable to the republicans than Trump.

I could see a significant portion of Trump's base being so angry at his removal that they dont vote. Lets remember many of Pence's positions have been labeled as extreme and he doesnt have the rallying power that Trump has. I could see him struggling mightily in a general election. I don't think Democratic enthusiasm would go down under a Pence administration. I could see him meeting the same fate Ford did and by a wider margin both in popular vote and electoral college

[Totally Not OEP]

A pence administration would be definitely more palatable to the republicans than Trump.

I could see a significant portion of Trump's base being so angry at his removal that they dont vote. Lets remember many of Pence's positions have been labeled as extreme and he doesnt have the rallying power that Trump has. I could see him struggling mightily in a general election. I don't think Democratic enthusiasm would go down under a Pence administration. I could see him meeting the same fate Ford did and by a wider margin both in popular vote and electoral college

Pence is entirely the reason Trump won over Evangelicals and has consistently polled as more popular than Trump.

[Greater Miami Shores]

I could see a significant portion of Trump's base being so angry at his removal that they dont vote. Lets remember many of Pence's positions have been labeled as extreme and he doesnt have the rallying power that Trump has. I could see him struggling mightily in a general election. I don't think Democratic enthusiasm would go down under a Pence administration. I could see him meeting the same fate Ford did and by a wider margin both in popular vote and electoral college

Pence is entirely the reason Trump won over Evangelicals and has consistently polled as more popular than Trump.

On the contrary San Lumen, I could see us so angry we would vote for Pence and all our fellow Republicans, I know I would, and like I said we cant allow a leftist like Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren win including Joe Biden.

[Munkcestrian Republic]

I could see a significant portion of Trump's base being so angry at his removal that they dont vote. Lets remember many of Pence's positions have been labeled as extreme and he doesnt have the rallying power that Trump has. I could see him struggling mightily in a general election. I don't think Democratic enthusiasm would go down under a Pence administration. I could see him meeting the same fate Ford did and by a wider margin both in popular vote and electoral college

Pence is entirely the reason Trump won over Evangelicals and has consistently polled as more popular than Trump.

pretty sure Trump would’ve won the Evangelical vote even without Pence, he’s constantly shown that he’s willing to go along with their apocalyptic anti-semitism everyone who isn’t them

[Munkcestrian Republic]

Pence is entirely the reason Trump won over Evangelicals and has consistently polled as more popular than Trump.

On the contrary San Lumen, I could see us so angry we would vote for Pence and all our fellow Republicans, I know I would, and like I said we cant vote or allow a leftist like Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren win including Joe Biden.

leftist Joe Biden lmao ok

Pence isn’t going to make you competitive in the Rust Belt for 2020

[Totally Not OEP]

Pence is entirely the reason Trump won over Evangelicals and has consistently polled as more popular than Trump.

pretty sure Trump would’ve won the Evangelical vote even without Pence, he’s constantly shown that he’s willing to go along with their apocalyptic anti-semitism everyone who isn’t them

No, it was tied pretty closely to him embracing Pence and moving in that direction polling wise; Ted Cruz was the early favorite for them.

As for Evangelicals, TFW the most consistently Pro-Israel group in America, more than even American Jews, is Anti-Semitic.

[Munkcestrian Republic]

pretty sure Trump would’ve won the Evangelical vote even without Pence, he’s constantly shown that he’s willing to go along with their apocalyptic anti-semitism everyone who isn’t them

No, it was tied pretty closely to him embracing Pence and moving in that direction polling wise; Ted Cruz was the early favorite for them.

As for Evangelicals, TFW the most consistently Pro-Israel group in America, more than even American Jews, is Anti-Semitic.

yeah Ted Cruz sort of lost the nomination

pro-Israel lmao right. You mean “they support the existence of Israel because the Third Temple and the Jews being in Israel are required for the Second Coming, at which point all but 144,000 Jews will be tortured until they want to die”.

[San Lumen]

Pence is entirely the reason Trump won over Evangelicals and has consistently polled as more popular than Trump.

On the contrary San Lumen, I could see us so angry we would vote for Pence and all our fellow Republicans, I know I would, and like I said we cant allow a leftist like Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren win including Joe Biden.

I think Pence would meet the same fate as Ford. He doesnt have the rallying power Trump does. He also holds extreme positions like supporting conversion therapy.

[Totally Not OEP]

yeah Ted Cruz sort of lost the nomination

...Yes, because Evangelicals ended up trending to Trump.

pro-Israel lmao right. You mean “they support the existence of Israel because the Third Temple and the Jews being in Israel are required for the Second Coming, at which point all but 144,000 Jews will be tortured until they want to die”.

What the absolute fuck have you been reading?

[Munkcestrian Republic]

yeah Ted Cruz sort of lost the nomination

...Yes, because Evangelicals ended up trending to Trump.

pro-Israel lmao right. You mean “they support the existence of Israel because the Third Temple and the Jews being in Israel are required for the Second Coming, at which point all but 144,000 Jews will be tortured until they want to die”.

What the absolute fuck have you been reading?

thank you for proving that pretty much nobody realises that this is a key element of the Republican Party and American foreign policy.

[Totally Not OEP]

...Yes, because Evangelicals ended up trending to Trump.



What the absolute fuck have you been reading?

thank you for proving that pretty much nobody realises that this is a key element of the Republican Party and American foreign policy.

Nobody realizes it because you've literally just made this up by yourself. As I said, where the fuck has that been written by anyone lol?

[Greater Miami Shores]

On the contrary San Lumen, I could see us so angry we would vote for Pence and all our fellow Republicans, I know I would, and like I said we cant allow a leftist like Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren win including Joe Biden.

I think Pence would meet the same fate as Ford. He doesnt have the rallying power Trump does. He also holds extreme positions like supporting conversion therapy.

I admit I don't know too much about Pence like you all seem to know, but we cant allow a leftist like Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren win including a so called moderate leftist like Joe Biden.

[San Lumen]

I think Pence would meet the same fate as Ford. He doesnt have the rallying power Trump does. He also holds extreme positions like supporting conversion therapy.

I admit I don't know too much about Pence like you all seem to know, but we cant allow a leftist like Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren win including a so called moderate leftist like Joe Biden.

Who cares if we destroy the planet? only the size of one's wallet matters and how much profit business makes.

[Valrifell]

yeah Ted Cruz sort of lost the nomination

...Yes, because Evangelicals ended up trending to Trump.

...You do know when a candidate picks their VP, riiight?

Hint: it's towards the end or after primary season.

So either your hypothesis with Pence is bunk or the evangelical base isn't an overwhelming contingent of the GOP.

[Totally Not OEP]

...Yes, because Evangelicals ended up trending to Trump.

...You do know when a candidate picks their VP, riiight?

Hint: it's towards the end or after primary season.

Yes, I also known that candidates often start releasing things like who they will probably pick as VP before then and, perhaps more importantly for 2016, who they will select for SCOTUS.

[Munkcestrian Republic]

thank you for proving that pretty much nobody realises that this is a key element of the Republican Party and American foreign policy.

Nobody realizes it because you've literally just made this up by yourself. As I said, where the fuck has that been written by anyone lol?

I didn’t make this shit up, American Evangelicals did.

do you expect them to come out and openly say “we literally think the Second Coming is about to happen and all the people we don’t like are going to get tortured to death (that’s also why we don’t give a fuck about climate change)”. I’m on mobile rn so you’ll have to wait if you want me to drag out news articles and academic papers

[Greater Miami Shores]

I admit I don't know too much about Pence like you all seem to know, but we cant allow a leftist like Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren win including a so called moderate leftist like Joe Biden.

Who cares if we destroy the planet? only the size of one's wallet matters and how much profit business makes.

To me and I think millions of us the alternative of Bernie Sanders, Elizabeth Warren or Joe Biden is unacceptable no matter what you all think of Pence, and if he chooses Southern Baptist Ted Cruz, the first Cuban American Vice President Hispanic Latino of Italian and Irish descent awesome.

Marco Rubio would help Pence win Florida but I think Ted Cruz is the stronger of the 2 Vice candidates under the circumstances I hope does not happen lol.

Thank you to Thermy and Ifreann for providing me with the correct information on Ted Cruz. But as a Republican I say no one should discriminate against thermy for being gay.