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Postby New haven america » Wed Sep 25, 2019 3:16 pm

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Gig em Aggies wrote:not really the DNC are no patriots they swept the Hillary Scandal under the rug and thought nothing of it now there trying to hold trump accountable? no one is above the law (as long as its not a democrat.) I added the parentheses part.

What happened to "Hillary Lost, Get Over It"?

They haven't gotten over it yet.
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Postby Vassenor » Wed Sep 25, 2019 3:17 pm

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Eternal Lotharia wrote:Specify the Hillary Scandal you're talking about. But at least the Progressives wouldn't have done that.

Probably something about the primary that was disproven, like either The Questions or The Rig.


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Postby Telconi » Wed Sep 25, 2019 3:17 pm

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"More American than thou" is possibly the best part of politics.

Actually I admit I couldn't find the words for least corrupt, I had a brainfart.

It though, does prove the GOP and Republican voters don't care about corruption or election fraud, they'd have Trump as a dictator and wouldn't care.


Like how you don't care about abortion?
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Postby Telconi » Wed Sep 25, 2019 3:18 pm

Vassenor wrote:
Gormwood wrote:Probably something about the primary that was disproven, like either The Questions or The Rig.


#butheremailspolicypositions


FTFY
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Postby Genivaria » Wed Sep 25, 2019 3:18 pm

Telconi wrote:
Eternal Lotharia wrote:Actually I admit I couldn't find the words for least corrupt, I had a brainfart.

It though, does prove the GOP and Republican voters don't care about corruption or election fraud, they'd have Trump as a dictator and wouldn't care.


Like how you don't care about abortion?

Holy non-sequitor Batman.

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Postby Gormwood » Wed Sep 25, 2019 3:20 pm

Eternal Lotharia wrote:
Telconi wrote:
Like how you don't care about abortion?

:blink:
That's random...

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Postby New haven america » Wed Sep 25, 2019 3:21 pm

Telconi wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
#butheremailspolicypositions


FTFY

Considering that you've admitted that you're willing to give up any of your rights as long as gun rights are protected, and then admitted that your willing to give up those if Trump is the one doing that takin'.

Yeah, sure, ok, keep arguing that. BTW: Why aren't you over Hillary yet? This obsession seems unhealthy.
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Postby Telconi » Wed Sep 25, 2019 3:21 pm

Eternal Lotharia wrote:
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Like how you don't care about abortion?

:blink:
That's random...


It's something you claim to oppose and yet support via vote? So if people don't care about things they vote against, that conclusion stands to reason.
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Postby Telconi » Wed Sep 25, 2019 3:22 pm

New haven america wrote:
Telconi wrote:
FTFY

Considering that you've admitted that you're willing to give up any of your rights as long as gun rights are protected, and then admitted that your willing to give up those if Trump is the one doing that takin'.

Yeah, sure, ok, keep arguing that. BTW: Why aren't you over Hillary yet? This obsession seems unhealthy.


Your fantasies aren't my admissions. Sorry.
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Postby Telconi » Wed Sep 25, 2019 3:24 pm

Eternal Lotharia wrote:
Telconi wrote:
It's something you claim to oppose and yet support via vote? So if people don't care about things they vote against, that conclusion stands to reason.

Are you really going to dismiss the horrible system we have and the ingrained culture we have?

Either way I'll be voting against stuff extremely important to me. It's even written into many state's codes, to reinforce their dominance.

I'm already taking on several fights, I'm doing all I can for my views.

Your lack of understanding reality makes you look like a partisan hack.


Ah, yes, but Republicans couldn't possibly be doing what you do. That would make too much sense.
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Postby New haven america » Wed Sep 25, 2019 3:27 pm

Telconi wrote:
New haven america wrote:Considering that you've admitted that you're willing to give up any of your rights as long as gun rights are protected, and then admitted that your willing to give up those if Trump is the one doing that takin'.

Yeah, sure, ok, keep arguing that. BTW: Why aren't you over Hillary yet? This obsession seems unhealthy.


Your fantasies aren't my admissions. Sorry.

Tel's incapable of actually making an argument, take a shot!
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Postby Telconi » Wed Sep 25, 2019 3:28 pm

New haven america wrote:
Telconi wrote:
Your fantasies aren't my admissions. Sorry.

Tel's incapable of actually making an argument, take a shot!


Pretty sure "you're a liar" is the correct argument for people who are lying.
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Postby Valrifell » Wed Sep 25, 2019 3:32 pm

Gormwood wrote:
Eternal Lotharia wrote: :blink:
That's random...

Telconi throwing shit hoping something sticks.


It's what happens when you so desperately want to cling to your imagined inherent moral superiority over the ideological opposition and reality is making that kinda hard right now.
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Postby New haven america » Wed Sep 25, 2019 3:33 pm

Valrifell wrote:
Gormwood wrote:Telconi throwing shit hoping something sticks.


It's what happens when you so desperately want to cling to your imagined inherent moral superiority over the ideological opposition and reality is making that kinda hard right now.

What makes it funny is that Trump goes against literally everything in his Pro list, and yet he still claims that Trump's not that bad a guy.
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Postby Telconi » Wed Sep 25, 2019 3:35 pm

Eternal Lotharia wrote:
Valrifell wrote:
It's what happens when you so desperately want to cling to your imagined inherent moral superiority over the ideological opposition and reality is making that kinda hard right now.

Democrats are definitely in the moral right at the moment.


People actually believe this...
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Postby Telconi » Wed Sep 25, 2019 3:37 pm

New haven america wrote:
Valrifell wrote:
It's what happens when you so desperately want to cling to your imagined inherent moral superiority over the ideological opposition and reality is making that kinda hard right now.

What makes it funny is that Trump goes against literally everything in his Pro and Anti list, and yet he still claims that Trump's not that bad a guy.


Y'know, on the subject of unhealthy obsessions. You might want to stop daydreaming about me, especially since it seems you are struggling to separate your fantasies from actual things I have said.
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Postby Telconi » Wed Sep 25, 2019 3:38 pm

Eternal Lotharia wrote:
Telconi wrote:
People actually believe this...

Do you have anything of actual substance to add?


Just expressing disbelief
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Postby New haven america » Wed Sep 25, 2019 3:40 pm

Eternal Lotharia wrote:
Telconi wrote:
People actually believe this...

Do you have anything of actual substance to add?

They usually don't.

I don't know why you guys don't just ignore him BTW, that's what I do most of the time. Makes the forum-going experience much nicer.
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Gormwood wrote:
Eternal Lotharia wrote:Specify the Hillary Scandal you're talking about. But at least the Progressives wouldn't have done that.

Probably something about the primary that was disproven, like either The Questions or The Rig.


A court of law actually found the election rigging to be true, (but that the DNC can legally rig its own primary) while the reporter in question had to resign over leaking the questions. (Where she was promptly made the chair of the DNC.) those haven’t been disproven, (quite the opposite rather), and it’s about as delusional as you claim the trump supporters are to believe they have been.
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Postby Valrifell » Wed Sep 25, 2019 3:49 pm

Tarsonis wrote:A court of law actually found the election rigging to be true, (but that the DNC can legally rig its own primary)


I thought we talked about this, the court dismissed the case because even if it held water, the DNC is allowed to rig it's own primary. Nothing was ever proven in a court of law one way or the other.
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Postby Tarsonis » Wed Sep 25, 2019 3:56 pm

Eternal Lotharia wrote:
Tarsonis wrote:
A court of law actually found the election rigging to be true, (but that the DNC can legally rig its own primary) while the reporter in question had to resign over leaking the questions. (Where she was promptly made the chair of the DNC.) those haven’t been disproven, (quite the opposite rather), and it’s about as delusional as you claim the trump supporters are to believe they have been.

Well either way I've always disliked Hillary so here I'm kinda not a hypocrite here.
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New haven america wrote:
Telconi wrote:
FTFY

Considering that you've admitted that you're willing to give up any of your rights as long as gun rights are protected, and then admitted that your willing to give up those if Trump is the one doing that takin'.

Yeah, sure, ok, keep arguing that. BTW: Why aren't you over Hillary yet? This obsession seems unhealthy.

Why would he be? Trump isn't.

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President Donald Trump said Wednesday that he thinks Hillary Clinton's deleted emails "could be" in Ukraine — the latest evidence-free theory he has floated amid a growing scandal over allegations that he attempted to strong-arm that country's president to boost his campaign.
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New haven america wrote:Considering that you've admitted that you're willing to give up any of your rights as long as gun rights are protected, and then admitted that your willing to give up those if Trump is the one doing that takin'.

Yeah, sure, ok, keep arguing that. BTW: Why aren't you over Hillary yet? This obsession seems unhealthy.

Why would he be? Trump isn't.

News from *checks notes* today? Today.

Sept. 26, 2019, 12:53 AM GMT+2
By Jane C. Timm

President Donald Trump said Wednesday that he thinks Hillary Clinton's deleted emails "could be" in Ukraine — the latest evidence-free theory he has floated amid a growing scandal over allegations that he attempted to strong-arm that country's president to boost his campaign.

Hillary has been out of the news and politics basically since the election in 2016, that is almost 4 years now. He really needs to get over her.
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and republicans will simply look the other way. That is collusion in plain sight but if a Republican does it its ok. Can you imagine if Obama had done this? An impeachment vote would have already happened.

Irony, since the last investigation found evidence of Obama doing exactly that in an effort to get Hillary elected and cock-block Col. Bernie Sanders.
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Gravlen wrote:
New haven america wrote:Considering that you've admitted that you're willing to give up any of your rights as long as gun rights are protected, and then admitted that your willing to give up those if Trump is the one doing that takin'.

Yeah, sure, ok, keep arguing that. BTW: Why aren't you over Hillary yet? This obsession seems unhealthy.

Why would he be? Trump isn't.

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President Donald Trump said Wednesday that he thinks Hillary Clinton's deleted emails "could be" in Ukraine — the latest evidence-free theory he has floated amid a growing scandal over allegations that he attempted to strong-arm that country's president to boost his campaign.

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