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Postby Gormwood » Tue Sep 10, 2019 12:34 pm

Drunkerland wrote:Can just imagine Trump doing his "your fired " line.

Pffft, he had to Tweet it for safety.
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Postby Gormwood » Tue Sep 10, 2019 12:35 pm

Proctopeo wrote:
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Three Obama terms.

And if the Will of the People mattered Trump never would've been President.

And Sanders would've been the Democratic nominee instead of Clinton.

Oh, that Primaries Were Rigged fairy tale again. Remember Ron Paul's Presidency?
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Postby Proctopeo » Tue Sep 10, 2019 12:37 pm

Gormwood wrote:
Proctopeo wrote:And Sanders would've been the Democratic nominee instead of Clinton.

Oh, that Primaries Were Rigged fairy tale again. Remember Ron Paul's Presidency?

There was no rigging, there was no Sanders. Only Clinton. Hail Clinton.
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Postby Gormwood » Tue Sep 10, 2019 12:39 pm

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Gormwood wrote:Oh, that Primaries Were Rigged fairy tale again. Remember Ron Paul's Presidency?

There was no rigging, there was no Sanders. Only Clinton. Hail Clinton.

Aren't you busy hailing Trump unironically?
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Postby Proctopeo » Tue Sep 10, 2019 12:40 pm

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Proctopeo wrote:There was no rigging, there was no Sanders. Only Clinton. Hail Clinton.

Aren't you busy hailing Trump unironically?

No, no I am not. Nice try at deflecting, though uwu~
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Postby Aureumterra » Tue Sep 10, 2019 12:42 pm

And Rachel Maddow has sided with Bolton

Why am I not surprised?
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Postby Gormwood » Tue Sep 10, 2019 12:42 pm

Proctopeo wrote:
Gormwood wrote:Aren't you busy hailing Trump unironically?

No, no I am not. Nice try at deflecting, though uwu~

Nothing substantial to deflect there, just a wishful repetition of a discredited story.
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Postby Gormwood » Tue Sep 10, 2019 12:44 pm

Aureumterra wrote:And Rachel Maddow has sided with Bolton

Why am I not surprised?

Since when did you actually watch Maddow? It's not like Donny would appoint a competent impartial replacement.
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Postby Telconi » Tue Sep 10, 2019 12:45 pm

Gormwood wrote:
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Three Obama terms.

And if the Will of the People mattered Trump never would've been President.

But the current Jenga Tower of corruption and incompetence was clearly worth telling Hillary to suck dick and owning the libs.


Your sexual fantasies aside, essentially yes.
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Postby Nakena » Tue Sep 10, 2019 12:49 pm

Aureumterra wrote:And Rachel Maddow has sided with Bolton

Why am I not surprised?


Their true allegiances are being revealed.

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Postby Aureumterra » Tue Sep 10, 2019 12:50 pm

Nakena wrote:
Aureumterra wrote:And Rachel Maddow has sided with Bolton

Why am I not surprised?


Their true allegiances are being revealed.

Rachel Maddow is like your average r/politics poster, oppose everything Trump does

If Trump cured cancer, she would be whining about cancer cell abuse
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Postby Gormwood » Tue Sep 10, 2019 12:50 pm

Nakena wrote:
Aureumterra wrote:And Rachel Maddow has sided with Bolton

Why am I not surprised?


Their true allegiances are being revealed.

Declaration without source, like Donny negotiating with Jyna and the Taliban.
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Postby Vassenor » Tue Sep 10, 2019 12:57 pm

Proctopeo wrote:
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Three Obama terms.

And if the Will of the People mattered Trump never would've been President.

And Sanders would've been the Democratic nominee instead of Clinton.


How would he have done that when she got several million more votes than him in the primaries?
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Postby Proctopeo » Tue Sep 10, 2019 12:57 pm

Gormwood wrote:
Proctopeo wrote:No, no I am not. Nice try at deflecting, though uwu~

Nothing substantial to deflect there, just a wishful repetition of a discredited story.

Discredited? Yeah, sure.
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Postby Vassenor » Tue Sep 10, 2019 12:58 pm

Proctopeo wrote:
Gormwood wrote:Nothing substantial to deflect there, just a wishful repetition of a discredited story.

Discredited? Yeah, sure.


When one of the people pushing it admits they made it up to sell their book, it tends to get pretty discredited.
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Postby Page » Tue Sep 10, 2019 12:58 pm

Surkiea II wrote:
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Ready to have everybody else’s children fight his wars is not heroic.

Wanting to put America first and protecting everything we hold dear is heroic. Sorry to burst your leftist bubble.


Because if not for the neocons, Iran would have brought their fleet of aircraft carriers across the Atlantic and nuked the East Coast with their ICBM's and the Ayatollah would be ruling over Missouri right now. Presumably the Venezuelans would have conquered Texas and North Korea would have California. Come on.

America's endless wars do absolutely nothing for regular Americans. The only ones who benefit are the military industrial complex, and I don't give a shit if war profiteers lose all the money they hold dear.
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Postby Antityranicals » Tue Sep 10, 2019 1:00 pm

Vassenor wrote:
Proctopeo wrote:Discredited? Yeah, sure.


When one of the people pushing it admits they made it up to sell their book, it tends to get pretty discredited.

Rigging the primaries is certainly the sort of thing that Democrats would do, that much is for sure... As for whether or not it is true, I don't know.
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Postby Gormwood » Tue Sep 10, 2019 1:00 pm

Proctopeo wrote:
Gormwood wrote:Nothing substantial to deflect there, just a wishful repetition of a discredited story.

Discredited? Yeah, sure.

Jesus Christ, Charlie.

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Postby Nakena » Tue Sep 10, 2019 1:03 pm

According to the NYT, Trump was tired of Bolton's warmongery.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/10/us/p ... trump.html

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Postby Page » Tue Sep 10, 2019 1:07 pm

Aureumterra wrote:And Rachel Maddow has sided with Bolton

Why am I not surprised?


This is what the media does these days. Anyone who has beef with Trump, they put on a pedestal. Trump beefs with the CIA, MSNBC says anyone who doesn't unconditionally trust the CIA is a Russian troll. Trump negotiates with North Korea, CNN says invade North Korea. Just last week that prick Scaramucci was having his ass kissed all over TV for talking shit about Trump.

A broken clock is right twice a day but if the broken clock called Donald Trump says that serial killers are bad, you can count on Rachel Maddow to say that serial killers are good.
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Postby Gormwood » Tue Sep 10, 2019 1:08 pm

Page wrote:
Aureumterra wrote:And Rachel Maddow has sided with Bolton

Why am I not surprised?


This is what the media does these days. Anyone who has beef with Trump, they put on a pedestal. Trump beefs with the CIA, MSNBC says anyone who doesn't unconditionally trust the CIA is a Russian troll. Trump negotiates with North Korea, CNN says invade North Korea. Just last week that prick Scaramucci was having his ass kissed all over TV for talking shit about Trump.

A broken clock is right twice a day but if the broken clock called Donald Trump says that serial killers are bad, you can count on Rachel Maddow to say that serial killers are good.

Still no source on the Maddow claim.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Tue Sep 10, 2019 1:09 pm

Aureumterra wrote:And Rachel Maddow has sided with Bolton

Why am I not surprised?


:blink:

Ok. Explain.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Tue Sep 10, 2019 1:12 pm

Surkiea II wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:
:rofl:

Ready to have everybody else’s children fight his wars is not heroic.

Wanting to put America first and protecting everything we hold dear is heroic. Sorry to burst your leftist bubble.


Oh I doubt you even understand what it is to be American. You are probably all for war as long as you don’t have to fight.
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Postby GlobalControl » Tue Sep 10, 2019 1:14 pm

Bolton is gone? Good.
One less warhawk.


Saiwania wrote:John Bolton's war mongering is actually good in my view. We shouldn't avoid wars, provided the opponent is projected to be weak enough to take on. We obviously can't invade China but Venezuela is probably ripe for conquest if we were just willing to go ahead (assuming no other nations try intervening).

All of Venezuela's neighbors don't appreciate the migration problems they're having as a result of the Maduro regime's mismanagement. We should invade to depose him, especially if there is a replacement that can readily take charge of that country. With a new regime, most of the Venezuelans that've moved can return home if that economy stabilizes under new leadership.

No, we really shouldn't.

Wanting to start wars with anyone is a bad idea in general, especially nations that are not only dirt poor, but aren't going to take US occupation lightly or well at all. We shouldn't be pursuing conflicts that will lead to nothing good in the end, and the use of arms is a last resort, not a go-to.

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Postby Gormwood » Tue Sep 10, 2019 1:15 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:
Surkiea II wrote:Wanting to put America first and protecting everything we hold dear is heroic. Sorry to burst your leftist bubble.


Oh I doubt you even understand what it is to be American. You are probably all for war as long as you don’t have to fight.

He's a troll who got DEATed for doing the same thing before.
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