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Postby Takso » Tue Sep 10, 2019 11:52 am

Surkiea II wrote:
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War is sometimes necessary, but using it as a go-to option will have the opposite effect. You piss off the world, and you'll find you have way more national security threats and far less allies. Better to exhaust peaceful diplomatic solutions before resorting to violence.

Diplomatic solutions are no use with North Korea, Syria, Iran, Venezuela, Russia or China, they've openly expressed that they want to slaughter every last American man, woman and child. This can't be tolerated and if Trump had balls he would actually do something about it and not pussyfoot around like a coward.


So, you honestly believe going to war with North Korea, Syria, Iran, Venezuela, Russia, and China will safeguard American lives and not say... Lead to a global thermonuclear holocaust that eradicates the Free World?

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Postby Gormwood » Tue Sep 10, 2019 11:57 am

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It's obviously a joke. OBVIOUSLY.

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Postby Surkiea II » Tue Sep 10, 2019 11:57 am

Takso wrote:
Surkiea II wrote:Diplomatic solutions are no use with North Korea, Syria, Iran, Venezuela, Russia or China, they've openly expressed that they want to slaughter every last American man, woman and child. This can't be tolerated and if Trump had balls he would actually do something about it and not pussyfoot around like a coward.


So, you honestly believe going to war with North Korea, Syria, Iran, Venezuela, Russia, and China will safeguard American lives and not say... Lead to a global thermonuclear holocaust that eradicates the Free World?

North Korea, Syria, Iran and Venezuela will be easy, they've got shit militaries and would be crushed within weeks. Russia and China will be a difficult I will admit, that's why I believe cooperation with our allies and funding freedom fighters within will be essential in toppling their regimes.

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Postby -Ocelot- » Tue Sep 10, 2019 11:58 am

Surkiea II wrote:
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Invading other countries is nor putting America first.

Destroying threats to our national security and defending our allies is actually.


That's a good point.

You may not want regime change in Iran, Russia or North Korea. But they do want to change your government by force (and the governments of nearby nations). They just can't at this moment. Sometimes the best defense is offense.

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Postby Gormwood » Tue Sep 10, 2019 11:59 am

Surkiea II wrote:
Takso wrote:
So, you honestly believe going to war with North Korea, Syria, Iran, Venezuela, Russia, and China will safeguard American lives and not say... Lead to a global thermonuclear holocaust that eradicates the Free World?

North Korea, Syria, Iran and Venezuela will be easy, they've got shit militaries and would be crushed within weeks. Russia and China will be a difficult I will admit, that's why I believe cooperation with our allies and funding freedom fighters within will be essential in toppling their regimes.

Nuclear North Korea easy to crush, prtending China never stormed the Yalu River. Quality trolling.
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Postby Gormwood » Tue Sep 10, 2019 12:02 pm


I'd rather have Michael Bolton as NDAd instead of that fucking walrus.
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Postby Surkiea II » Tue Sep 10, 2019 12:03 pm

Gormwood wrote:
Surkiea II wrote:North Korea, Syria, Iran and Venezuela will be easy, they've got shit militaries and would be crushed within weeks. Russia and China will be a difficult I will admit, that's why I believe cooperation with our allies and funding freedom fighters within will be essential in toppling their regimes.

Nuclear North Korea easy to crush, prtending China never stormed the Yalu River. Quality trolling.

North Korea doesn't have nukes lol, even if they did, we'll easily bomb their sites before they launch. Also North Korea is a liability to the Chinese communists so they won't do anything. And I love this argument that anyone who disagrees with you is automatically a "troll."

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Postby Shrillland » Tue Sep 10, 2019 12:03 pm

Gormwood wrote:

I'd rather have Michael Bolton as NDAd instead of that fucking walrus.


Me too. At least he knows how to pull a proper scam involving fractional currencies.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Tue Sep 10, 2019 12:05 pm

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:

It's obviously a joke. OBVIOUSLY.


What would be wrong if it wasn't a joke? Like, the 22nd is inherently undemocratic and I thought most in this thread claimed to be all for American democracy and muh popular vote and whatnot.
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Postby Gormwood » Tue Sep 10, 2019 12:06 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:It's obviously a joke. OBVIOUSLY.


What would be wrong if it wasn't a joke? Like, the 22nd is inherently undemocratic and I thought most in this thread claimed to be all for American democracy and muh popular vote and whatnot.

Imagine 5 or 6 FDR terms if the hemorrhage didn't kill him.
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Postby Sidesh0w B0b » Tue Sep 10, 2019 12:07 pm

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The Rapture Republic wrote:Don’t forget Syria, Libya and the thousands of other countries saved by American intervention! Truly a smashing success! I can hear them chant USA! USA!

Nobody, not even right-wingers here have unironically said Bolton was doing a good job without trolling.

That's a very low Barr.

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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Tue Sep 10, 2019 12:08 pm

Gormwood wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
What would be wrong if it wasn't a joke? Like, the 22nd is inherently undemocratic and I thought most in this thread claimed to be all for American democracy and muh popular vote and whatnot.

Imagine 5 or 6 FDR terms if the hemorrhage didn't kill him.


It would have been disastrous for the nation for sure but the will of the people is the will of the people, no?
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Postby Takso » Tue Sep 10, 2019 12:10 pm

Surkiea II wrote:
Gormwood wrote:Nuclear North Korea easy to crush, prtending China never stormed the Yalu River. Quality trolling.

North Korea doesn't have nukes lol, even if they did, we'll easily bomb their sites before they launch. Also North Korea is a liability to the Chinese communists so they won't do anything. And I love this argument that anyone who disagrees with you is automatically a "troll."


Sounds like someone hasn't played Tic-tac-toe.

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Postby Holy Tedalonia » Tue Sep 10, 2019 12:10 pm

Surkiea II wrote:
Gormwood wrote:Nuclear North Korea easy to crush, prtending China never stormed the Yalu River. Quality trolling.

North Korea doesn't have nukes lol, even if they did, we'll easily bomb their sites before they launch. Also North Korea is a liability to the Chinese communists so they won't do anything. And I love this argument that anyone who disagrees with you is automatically a "troll."

Yalu River incident says otherwise.
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Postby -Ocelot- » Tue Sep 10, 2019 12:20 pm

North Korea can't be touched. They have the biggest arsenal of chemical weapons in the world, as well as the largest amount of soldiers. They'd crush South Korea in an instant in the event of a war but they'd also perish, which is why they haven't invaded the south.
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Postby Estanglia » Tue Sep 10, 2019 12:25 pm

Good riddance.

Surkiea II wrote:
Gormwood wrote:Nuclear North Korea easy to crush, prtending China never stormed the Yalu River. Quality trolling.

North Korea doesn't have nukes lol, even if they did, we'll easily bomb their sites before they launch. Also North Korea is a liability to the Chinese communists so they won't do anything. And I love this argument that anyone who disagrees with you is automatically a "troll."


North Korea has a fuckton of artillery pointed at Seoul. Even assuming that you somehow destroy all these, destroy North Korea's ability to launch nukes and destroy the North Korean army, China would probably prefer the Chinese-allied NK government over an American-allied united Korean government.
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Postby Dangine » Tue Sep 10, 2019 12:28 pm

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Postby Vassenor » Tue Sep 10, 2019 12:28 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Gormwood wrote:Imagine 5 or 6 FDR terms if the hemorrhage didn't kill him.


It would have been disastrous for the nation for sure but the will of the people is the will of the people, no?


Three Obama terms.

And if the Will of the People mattered Trump never would've been President.
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Postby Drunkerland » Tue Sep 10, 2019 12:31 pm

Can just imagine Trump doing his "your fired " line.

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Postby Dagnia » Tue Sep 10, 2019 12:32 pm

If I didn't have work tomorrow, I'd celebrate like a major holiday. In a just world, he would face war crimes charges. After they screw her out of the Democratic presidential nomination, Trump should hire Tulsi Gabbard for the position. I can't believe a staunch supporter of the Vietnam war who himself dodged the draft could have the ear of so many administrations.

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Postby Gormwood » Tue Sep 10, 2019 12:32 pm

Vassenor wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
It would have been disastrous for the nation for sure but the will of the people is the will of the people, no?


Three Obama terms.

And if the Will of the People mattered Trump never would've been President.

But the current Jenga Tower of corruption and incompetence was clearly worth telling Hillary to suck dick and owning the libs.
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Postby Proctopeo » Tue Sep 10, 2019 12:33 pm

Vassenor wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
It would have been disastrous for the nation for sure but the will of the people is the will of the people, no?


Three Obama terms.

And if the Will of the People mattered Trump never would've been President.

And Sanders would've been the Democratic nominee instead of Clinton.
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