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Postby Chan Island » Tue Sep 10, 2019 10:41 am

Good. That warmongering scum is a terrible influence everywhere he goes.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Tue Sep 10, 2019 10:47 am

Never trusted anybody who was so ready for war when they don’t have to be directly involved.

It’s good he is gone.

Trump in typical fashion is spinning it as it’s all about him. The probably had a disagreement which got ugly; Bolton probably offered to resign and in typical Trump fashion he sent out tweets before Bolton was supposed to be on TV.

Ever the nasty little twat.
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Postby Zurkerx » Tue Sep 10, 2019 10:47 am

LiberNovusAmericae wrote:This is a good thing, as Bolton wants to start a war. I don't think this will have an effect though, as foreign policy is still controlled by Trump, and he is very inconsistent.


Yeah, it's good he's gone but Trump's foreign policy is indeed, very inconsistent.
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Postby Grand Britannia » Tue Sep 10, 2019 10:49 am

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Postby Gormwood » Tue Sep 10, 2019 10:51 am

The Black Forrest wrote:Never trusted anybody who was so ready for war when they don’t have to be directly involved.

It’s good he is gone.

Trump in typical fashion is spinning it as it’s all about him. The probably had a disagreement which go ugly; Bolton probably offered to resign and in typical Trump fashion he sent out tweets before Bolton was supposed to be on TV.

Ever the nasty little twat.

Petty is as petty does.
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Postby Gormwood » Tue Sep 10, 2019 11:04 am

I predict Donny will try to replace Bolton with Colonel Sanders. "He has military experience, he's a kernel, the best!"
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Postby -Ocelot- » Tue Sep 10, 2019 11:05 am

What caused this severance of the Lannister and Bolton ties?
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Postby The Black Forrest » Tue Sep 10, 2019 11:07 am

-Ocelot- wrote:What caused this abrupt ending between the Lannister and Bolton ties?


House Lannister probably had plans to money launder some hotel deal in Afghanistan and did not like House Bolton being against any talks.
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Postby The Liberated Territories » Tue Sep 10, 2019 11:07 am

Zurkerx wrote:
LiberNovusAmericae wrote:This is a good thing, as Bolton wants to start a war. I don't think this will have an effect though, as foreign policy is still controlled by Trump, and he is very inconsistent.


Yeah, it's good he's gone but Trump's foreign policy is indeed, very inconsistent.


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Postby The Etetrnal Reich of Totsdam » Tue Sep 10, 2019 11:09 am

Good riddance one war monger down plenty more to go.

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Postby Surkiea II » Tue Sep 10, 2019 11:23 am

John Bolton was a hero who tried to put America's interests first and has challenged our enemies on the international stage, what trump has done is absolute bullshit and goes against our values as a superpower.

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Postby The Black Forrest » Tue Sep 10, 2019 11:25 am

Surkiea II wrote:John Bolton was a hero who tried to put America's interests first and has challenged our enemies on the international stage, what trump has done is absolute bullshit and goes against our values as a superpower.


:rofl:

Ready to have everybody else’s children fight his wars is not heroic.
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* There is actually a War on Christmas. But Christmas started it, with it's unparalleled aggression against the Thanksgiving Holiday, and now Christmas has seized much Lebensraum in November, and are pushing into October. The rest of us seek to repel these invaders, and push them back to the status quo ante bellum Black Friday border. -Trotskylvania
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* I felt like Ayn Rand cornered me at a party, and three minutes in I found my first objection to what she was saying, but she kept talking without interruption for ten more days. - Max Barry talking about Atlas Shrugged

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Postby The Rapture Republic » Tue Sep 10, 2019 11:31 am

Huzzah!
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Postby Zhivotnoye » Tue Sep 10, 2019 11:32 am

About time he kicked him out.

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Postby Myrensis » Tue Sep 10, 2019 11:33 am

On the one hand, Bolton us a warmongering asshole who measures the success of his foreign policy by numbers of flag draped coffins.

On the other hand we have a President who fired his National Security Advisor for objecting to hosting the Taliban in the US for peace talks on the anniversary of 9/11.

Truly a fucked up timeline we live in.

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Postby Surkiea II » Tue Sep 10, 2019 11:36 am

The Black Forrest wrote:
Surkiea II wrote:John Bolton was a hero who tried to put America's interests first and has challenged our enemies on the international stage, what trump has done is absolute bullshit and goes against our values as a superpower.


:rofl:

Ready to have everybody else’s children fight his wars is not heroic.

Wanting to put America first and protecting everything we hold dear is heroic. Sorry to burst your leftist bubble.

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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Tue Sep 10, 2019 11:38 am

Your blades were not so sharp after all Mr Bolton.
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Postby Gormwood » Tue Sep 10, 2019 11:39 am

Surkiea II wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:
:rofl:

Ready to have everybody else’s children fight his wars is not heroic.

Wanting to put America first and protecting everything we hold dear is heroic. Sorry to burst your leftist bubble.

The Iraqi Occupation was a smashing success now? Oh right, recent account. Totally not trying to stir shit up.
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Postby The Liberated Territories » Tue Sep 10, 2019 11:40 am

Surkiea II wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:
:rofl:

Ready to have everybody else’s children fight his wars is not heroic.

Wanting to put America first and protecting everything we hold dear is heroic. Sorry to burst your leftist bubble.


Invading other countries is nor putting America first.
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Postby The Rapture Republic » Tue Sep 10, 2019 11:42 am

Gormwood wrote:
Surkiea II wrote:Wanting to put America first and protecting everything we hold dear is heroic. Sorry to burst your leftist bubble.

The Iraqi Occupation was a smashing success now? Oh right, recent account. Totally not trying to stir shit up.

Don’t forget Syria, Libya and the thousands of other countries saved by American intervention! Truly a smashing success! I can hear them chant USA! USA! After overthrowing there alledged tyrannical governments, who dared defied the almighty dollar! :lol2:
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Postby Surkiea II » Tue Sep 10, 2019 11:43 am

Gormwood wrote:
Surkiea II wrote:Wanting to put America first and protecting everything we hold dear is heroic. Sorry to burst your leftist bubble.

The Iraqi Occupation was a smashing success now? Oh right, recent account. Totally not trying to stir shit up.

Yes it was, we toppled a brutal dictator and brought democracy and capitalism to the region. Our only mistake was leaving to early without establishing a stable government. Unless you thought the invasion was bad?

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Postby Gormwood » Tue Sep 10, 2019 11:44 am

The Rapture Republic wrote:
Gormwood wrote:The Iraqi Occupation was a smashing success now? Oh right, recent account. Totally not trying to stir shit up.

Don’t forget Syria, Libya and the thousands of other countries saved by American intervention! Truly a smashing success! I can hear them chant USA! USA!

Nobody, not even right-wingers here have unironically said Bolton was doing a good job without trolling.
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Postby Surkiea II » Tue Sep 10, 2019 11:44 am

The Liberated Territories wrote:
Surkiea II wrote:Wanting to put America first and protecting everything we hold dear is heroic. Sorry to burst your leftist bubble.


Invading other countries is nor putting America first.

Destroying threats to our national security and defending our allies is actually.

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Postby Takso » Tue Sep 10, 2019 11:46 am

Surkiea II wrote:
The Liberated Territories wrote:
Invading other countries is nor putting America first.

Destroying threats to our national security and defending our allies is actually.


War is sometimes necessary, but using it as a go-to option will have the opposite effect. You piss off the world, and you'll find you have way more national security threats and far less allies. Better to exhaust peaceful diplomatic solutions before resorting to violence.

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Postby Surkiea II » Tue Sep 10, 2019 11:51 am

Takso wrote:
Surkiea II wrote:Destroying threats to our national security and defending our allies is actually.


War is sometimes necessary, but using it as a go-to option will have the opposite effect. You piss off the world, and you'll find you have way more national security threats and far less allies. Better to exhaust peaceful diplomatic solutions before resorting to violence.

Diplomatic solutions are no use with North Korea, Syria, Iran, Venezuela, Russia or China, they've openly expressed that they want to slaughter every last American man, woman and child. This can't be tolerated and if Trump had balls he would actually do something about it and not pussyfoot around like a coward.

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