MAGAThread XVI: Raising the Barr

[Telconi]

Human rights apply to everyone.

Criminal according to whom? America, who holds no sovereignty over the area? Syria, perhaps? Themselves? The idea of criminal is entirely subjective. Even if they are criminals, every person, terrorist, criminal, murder, or otherwise, still hold basic human rights.

Human rights are something that apply universally to all people regardless of the government they live under the rule of. There's a reason why many governments are condemned for violating human rights. If they were allowed to determine the human rights of their own citizens, no government would ever violate human rights.

Can they be enforced to everyone?

No, they are consepts and ideas that depend where you are in the world.

You must have missted the part where ISIS is commiting genoside, human trafficing, rape, ect.

And the part where Saudi Arabia publicy stones people to death.


You are bending over not only backwards but inverted to say that selling guns to muderers is ok.


This is, madness. Its the most insane defence of an indefenceable opion I have ever seen. And, to be bunt, this opion that its ok to sell guns and nukes to horrable horrable people who actvily do horrable things is compleat and utter bullshit.

Why are genocide, human trafficking, rape, and public stoning bad?

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

Can they be enforced to everyone?

No, they are consepts and ideas that depend where you are in the world.

You must have missted the part where ISIS is commiting genoside, human trafficing, rape, ect.

And the part where Saudi Arabia publicy stones people to death.


You are bending over not only backwards but inverted to say that selling guns to muderers is ok.


This is, madness. Its the most insane defence of an indefenceable opion I have ever seen. And, to be bunt, this opion that its ok to sell guns and nukes to horrable horrable people who actvily do horrable things is compleat and utter bullshit.

Why are genocide, human trafficking, rape, and public stoning bad?

This is the most fucking stupid question I have ever read.

You know the answer, I know the answer, its a stupid question.

[San Lumen]

Can they be enforced to everyone?

No, they are consepts and ideas that depend where you are in the world.

You must have missted the part where ISIS is commiting genoside, human trafficing, rape, ect.

And the part where Saudi Arabia publicy stones people to death.


You are bending over not only backwards but inverted to say that selling guns to muderers is ok.


This is, madness. Its the most insane defence of an indefenceable opion I have ever seen. And, to be bunt, this opion that its ok to sell guns and nukes to horrable horrable people who actvily do horrable things is compleat and utter bullshit.

Why are genocide, human trafficking, rape, and public stoning bad?

Are you seriously asking that question?

[Rebels and Saints]

Human rights apply to everyone.

Criminal according to whom? America, who holds no sovereignty over the area? Syria, perhaps? Themselves? The idea of criminal is entirely subjective. Even if they are criminals, every person, terrorist, criminal, murder, or otherwise, still hold basic human rights.

Human rights are something that apply universally to all people regardless of the government they live under the rule of. There's a reason why many governments are condemned for violating human rights. If they were allowed to determine the human rights of their own citizens, no government would ever violate human rights.

Can they be enforced to everyone?

No, they are consepts and ideas that depend where you are in the world.

You must have missted the part where ISIS is commiting genoside, human trafficing, rape, ect.

And the part where Saudi Arabia publicy stones people to death.


You are bending over not only backwards but inverted to say that selling guns to muderers is ok.


This is, madness. Its the most insane defence of an indefenceable opion I have ever seen. And, to be bunt, this opion that its ok to sell guns and nukes to horrable horrable people who actvily do horrable things is compleat and utter bullshit.

No.

So, does the right to life change depending on where you are in the world?

Yes, they do all those things. Doesn't make them less deserving of human rights.

"Complete and utter bullshit." You see capitalism as complete and utter bullshit? Hope you have fun when your economy crashes because you can't stomach engaging in trades with characters with questionable motives.

[Rebels and Saints]

Why are genocide, human trafficking, rape, and public stoning bad?

This is the most fucking stupid question I have ever read.

You know the answer, I know the answer, its a stupid question.

Oh, and what is that answer? I thought human rights are a concept created by the government.

[Telconi]

Why are genocide, human trafficking, rape, and public stoning bad?

This is the most fucking stupid question I have ever read.

You know the answer, I know the answer, its a stupid question.

I know the answer, but you actively assert it's wrong, so why do you think these things are bad?

[Telconi]

Why are genocide, human trafficking, rape, and public stoning bad?

Are you seriously asking that question?

You're not hallucinating if that's what you're asking.

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

Can they be enforced to everyone?

No, they are consepts and ideas that depend where you are in the world.

You must have missted the part where ISIS is commiting genoside, human trafficing, rape, ect.

And the part where Saudi Arabia publicy stones people to death.


You are bending over not only backwards but inverted to say that selling guns to muderers is ok.


This is, madness. Its the most insane defence of an indefenceable opion I have ever seen. And, to be bunt, this opion that its ok to sell guns and nukes to horrable horrable people who actvily do horrable things is compleat and utter bullshit.

No.

So, does the right to life change depending on where you are in the world?

Yes, they do all those things. Doesn't make them less deserving of human rights.

"Complete and utter bullshit." You see capitalism as complete and utter bullshit? Hope you have fun when your economy crashes because you can't stomach engaging in trades with characters with questionable motives.

So why give guns to people who take life away?

I see blind captlism with no sense of morals as total bullshit.

[Rebels and Saints]

No.

So, does the right to life change depending on where you are in the world?

Yes, they do all those things. Doesn't make them less deserving of human rights.

"Complete and utter bullshit." You see capitalism as complete and utter bullshit? Hope you have fun when your economy crashes because you can't stomach engaging in trades with characters with questionable motives.

So why give guns to people who take life away?

I see blind captlism with no sense of morals as total bullshit.

Because it makes a profit.

Intertwining morals and economics is a dangerous path to go down.

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

This is the most fucking stupid question I have ever read.

You know the answer, I know the answer, its a stupid question.

Oh, and what is that answer? I thought human rights are a concept created by the government.

They are created and enforced by the goverments of the world. But where first created by people who then made the goverment who now enforces those rights.

To answer the question we all know the answer too:

Rape and murder are wrong beacuse they voloate other peoples bodly enterdy.

No one has a right to voloate someone elses body anywhere on the planet

[Rebels and Saints]

Oh, and what is that answer? I thought human rights are a concept created by the government.

They are created and enforced by the goverments of the world. But where first created by people who then made the goverment who now enforces those rights.

To answer the question we all know the answer too:

Rape and murder are wrong beacuse they voloate other peoples bodly enterdy.

No one has a right to voloate someone elses body anywhere on the planet

Ah, so universal human rights do exist!

[Telconi]

Oh, and what is that answer? I thought human rights are a concept created by the government.

They are created and enforced by the goverments of the world. But where first created by people who then made the goverment who now enforces those rights.

To answer the question we all know the answer too:

Rape and murder are wrong beacuse they voloate other peoples bodly enterdy.

No one has a right to voloate someone elses body anywhere on the planet

Wait a minute, here I thought nonhuman rights existed everywhere?

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

So why give guns to people who take life away?

I see blind captlism with no sense of morals as total bullshit.

Because it makes a profit.

Intertwining morals and economics is a dangerous path to go down.

Makeing a profit isnt nesserly a good thing.

Blind captolism with no human element, no morals, is a easy way to a distopia.

Thus, I call this whole fucking thing bullshit.

I dont use that word oftion in debates, but here it is clear that this whole idea that "profit = good even when selling to a muderer" is entrely bullshit.

Insane. Crapolla. Utterly detanged and detached from realty. Soulless. Heartless.

Jesus cast out the merchants for excatly this reason.

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

They are created and enforced by the goverments of the world. But where first created by people who then made the goverment who now enforces those rights.

To answer the question we all know the answer too:

Rape and murder are wrong beacuse they voloate other peoples bodly enterdy.

No one has a right to voloate someone elses body anywhere on the planet

Ah, so universal human rights do exist!

Nope. All I said was that no one had the right to do that on the planet. And wouldnt you know, no nation on the earth enforces the right to voloate someone elses body.

[Rebels and Saints]

Because it makes a profit.

Intertwining morals and economics is a dangerous path to go down.

Makeing a profit isnt nesserly a good thing.

Blind captolism with no human element, no morals, is a easy way to a distopia.

Thus, I call this whole fucking thing bullshit.

I dont use that word oftion in debates, but here it is clear that this whole idea that "profit = good even when selling to a muderer" is entrely bullshit.

Insane. Crapolla. Utterly detanged and detached from realty. Soulless. Heartless.

Jesus cast out the merchants for excatly this reason.

I'm detached from reality, soulless, and heartless because I believe that we need to respect innate human rights?

[Rebels and Saints]

Ah, so universal human rights do exist!

Nope. All I said was that no one had the right to do that on the planet. And wouldnt you know, no nation on the earth enforces the right to voloate someone elses body.

I mean, minus the ones that actively harm and kill their citizens. Are those nations guilty of violating human rights, or are they a-okay because they've decided that that isn't a human right?

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

Makeing a profit isnt nesserly a good thing.

Blind captolism with no human element, no morals, is a easy way to a distopia.

Thus, I call this whole fucking thing bullshit.

I dont use that word oftion in debates, but here it is clear that this whole idea that "profit = good even when selling to a muderer" is entrely bullshit.

Insane. Crapolla. Utterly detanged and detached from realty. Soulless. Heartless.

Jesus cast out the merchants for excatly this reason.

I'm detached from reality, soulless, and heartless because I believe that we need to respect innate human rights?

Not you. I never said you. I said the idea of selling guns to muderers is detached from reality, soulless, and heartless.

[Telconi]

Ah, so universal human rights do exist!

Nope. All I said was that no one had the right to do that on the planet. And wouldnt you know, no nation on the earth enforces the right to voloate someone elses body.

Which specifically necessitates a right to not have it happen to you.

Except evidently Saudi Arabia and ISIS...

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

Nope. All I said was that no one had the right to do that on the planet. And wouldnt you know, no nation on the earth enforces the right to voloate someone elses body.

I mean, minus the ones that actively harm and kill their citizens. Are those nations guilty of violating human rights, or are they a-okay because they've decided that that isn't a human right?

It is entirly possable for a nation to have something as a human right on paper, and then not practice it.

[Rebels and Saints]

I'm detached from reality, soulless, and heartless because I believe that we need to respect innate human rights?

Not you. I never said you. I said the idea of selling guns to muderers is detached from reality, soulless, and heartless.

When you go to the grocery store, do they care what your intent is for buying something? No.They sell it, and leave it at that. Why should arms sales be different?

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

Nope. All I said was that no one had the right to do that on the planet. And wouldnt you know, no nation on the earth enforces the right to voloate someone elses body.

Which specifically necessitates a right to not have it happen to you.

Except evidently Saudi Arabia and ISIS...

Bruh

Every nation has that, but some are seltive in en forceing sed rights.

Again, why are you defending terrorests and muderers?

[Rebels and Saints]

I mean, minus the ones that actively harm and kill their citizens. Are those nations guilty of violating human rights, or are they a-okay because they've decided that that isn't a human right?

It is entirly possable for a nation to have something as a human right on paper, and then not practice it.

Then we aren't allowed to sell arms to any foreign government?

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

Not you. I never said you. I said the idea of selling guns to muderers is detached from reality, soulless, and heartless.

When you go to the grocery store, do they care what your intent is for buying something? No.They sell it, and leave it at that. Why should arms sales be different?

Beacuse a gorcery store doesnt sell fucking guns.

And they dont normaly have god damm ISIS as a clint.

[Tarsonis]

When you go to the grocery store, do they care what your intent is for buying something? No.They sell it, and leave it at that. Why should arms sales be different?

Beacuse a gorcery store doesnt sell fucking guns.

And they dont normaly have god damm ISIS as a clint.

Technically walmart is a grocery store

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

It is entirly possable for a nation to have something as a human right on paper, and then not practice it.

Then we aren't allowed to sell arms to any foreign government?

Depends if they enforce that right or not.


Brings us back to SA and the horrable things they do.