MAGAThread XVI: Raising the Barr

[Telconi]

Unironically this.

Bruh

Yes?

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

Bruh

Yes?

That is total and complete bind captilism.

You would be aiding the worst people on earth and you think it would be ok beacuse they can pay?

[Telconi]

Yes?

That is total and complete bind captilism.

You would be aiding the worst people on earth and you think it would be ok beacuse they can pay?

I don't see how capitalism is involved.

They're still people right?

[San Lumen]

That is total and complete bind captilism.

You would be aiding the worst people on earth and you think it would be ok beacuse they can pay?

I don't see how capitalism is involved.

They're still people right?

Please tell me your joking right now? Your ok with selling weapons to Iran or North Korea? Lets sell to Russia too while we are at it.

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

That is total and complete bind captilism.

You would be aiding the worst people on earth and you think it would be ok beacuse they can pay?

I don't see how capitalism is involved.

They're still people right?

Blind free trade with out takeing in the motves or reasoning behind wanting to buy that.


Evil people who want to do harm to others.

[Telconi]

I don't see how capitalism is involved.

They're still people right?

Please tell me your joking right now? Your ok with selling weapons to Iran or North Korea? Lets sell to Russia too while we are at it.

Russia can make their own, they already do.

[Telconi]

I don't see how capitalism is involved.

They're still people right?

Blind free trade with out takeing in the motves or reasoning behind wanting to buy that.


Evil people who want to do harm to others.

Their motives are a desire for atomic weapons.

And Inreally don't think the whole "Evil people who want to do harm to others" should be deprived of their rights is a path that goes where you want it to go.

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

Blind free trade with out takeing in the motves or reasoning behind wanting to buy that.


Evil people who want to do harm to others.

Their motives are a desire for atomic weapons.

And Inreally don't think the whole "Evil people who want to do harm to others" should be deprived of their rights is a path that goes where you want it to go.

ISIS doesnt have any rights, there terrorests.

The state of Russia has no rights in Amereica.

Niether does Iran or North Korea.

And nobody has a right to a nuke.

[Juristonia]

Don't worry. Tel will consider it a bad thing again once there's a Dem in the oval office.

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

Again, selling those guns to right wing death squads was still a bad thing to do.

So was selling guns to "freedom fighters". With one particularly bad sale of guns to "freedom fighters" being the mujahideen.


Russia doing this does not make it ethical.

The US selling guns to Saudi Arabia is bad and unethical no matter who is in charge.

when is selling arms ethical? Its not like these are teddy bears with a warm cup of milk.

When the people buying those guns are not runing a dictatorship that kills gays or stones people to death.

[Telconi]

Their motives are a desire for atomic weapons.

And Inreally don't think the whole "Evil people who want to do harm to others" should be deprived of their rights is a path that goes where you want it to go.

ISIS doesnt have any rights, there terrorests.

The state of Russia has no rights in Amereica.

Niether does Iran or North Korea.

And nobody has a right to a nuke.

They're people.

Not how that works.

Still not how that works.

Incorrect.

[Telconi]

Don't worry. Tel will consider it a bad thing again once there's a Dem in the oval office.

[Loben The 2nd]

I don't see how capitalism is involved.

They're still people right?

Please tell me your joking right now? Your ok with selling weapons to Iran or North Korea? Lets sell to Russia too while we are at it.

i mean we did before. we even made guns for them, right here in our own back yard.

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

ISIS doesnt have any rights, there terrorests.

The state of Russia has no rights in Amereica.

Niether does Iran or North Korea.

And nobody has a right to a nuke.

They're people.

Not how that works.

Still not how that works.

Incorrect.

People who are either Terrorrsts or not people at all and are consepts of nation states.

The terrorest group called ISIS and the states of Russia, Iran and North Korea are not:

Human beings

Inside the United States

Pay taxes to the IRS

Citizens of the United States


As such, they have no rights in the United States.

No body of goverment on earth gives the right to own, sell or, produce a nuke.

All of my posts are factualy correct, your posts are nonsense and an indefenceable position.

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

Please tell me your joking right now? Your ok with selling weapons to Iran or North Korea? Lets sell to Russia too while we are at it.

i mean we did before. we even made guns for them, right here in our own back yard.

It wasn't right then, not right today.

Doing something in the past does not magicly make it ok to do now.

[Gormwood]

Yes.

TIL: selling guns to the mob, terrorests, gang members, pimps, mass murders and, other criminals is perfictly ok aslong as they can pay for it.

Someone should sell fresh military arms in perfect condition to Bolsheviks. At a discount.

[Rebels and Saints]

I don't see how capitalism is involved.

They're still people right?

Please tell me your joking right now? Your ok with selling weapons to Iran or North Korea? Lets sell to Russia too while we are at it.

Um, yeah, go ahead. If you're making a profit, it doesn't matter all that much what their motives for purchasing weaponry are.

[Telconi]

They're people.

Not how that works.

Still not how that works.

Incorrect.

People who are either Terrorrsts or not people at all and are consepts of nation states.

The terrorest group called ISIS and the states of Russia, Iran and North Korea are not:

Human beings

Inside the United States

Pay taxes to the IRS

Citizens of the United States


As such, they have no rights in the United States.

No body of goverment on earth gives the right to own, sell or, produce a nuke.

All of my posts are factualy correct, your posts are nonsense and an indefenceable position.

I'm pretty sure Russians, Koreans, and Iranians are human beings my dude.

As for the rest, neither presence in the United States, taxes paid to the United States, or United States Citizenship is a pre-requisite for personhood, and thus, human rights.

Human rights don't exist because government said so.

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

People who are either Terrorrsts or not people at all and are consepts of nation states.

The terrorest group called ISIS and the states of Russia, Iran and North Korea are not:

Human beings

Inside the United States

Pay taxes to the IRS

Citizens of the United States


As such, they have no rights in the United States.

No body of goverment on earth gives the right to own, sell or, produce a nuke.

All of my posts are factualy correct, your posts are nonsense and an indefenceable position.

I'm pretty sure Russians, Koreans, and Iranians are human beings my dude.

As for the rest, neither presence in the United States, taxes paid to the United States, or United States Citizenship is a pre-requisite for personhood, and thus, human rights.

Human rights don't exist because government said so.

Those individuals are people, but as a group indvuagal rights do not apply to them.

And a crimal orgination such as ISIS has no rights. The indvugales have no rights either, they are crimals

Human rights exist and are different depending where you are in the world. They are enterly dependent on goverments.

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

Please tell me your joking right now? Your ok with selling weapons to Iran or North Korea? Lets sell to Russia too while we are at it.

Um, yeah, go ahead. If you're making a profit, it doesn't matter all that much what their motives for purchasing weaponry are.

Blind insane captlisim.

Don't sell nukes to North Korea. Or guns to ISIS. Or wepons to Saudi Arabia.

[Rebels and Saints]

I'm pretty sure Russians, Koreans, and Iranians are human beings my dude.

As for the rest, neither presence in the United States, taxes paid to the United States, or United States Citizenship is a pre-requisite for personhood, and thus, human rights.

Human rights don't exist because government said so.

Those individuals are people, but as a group indvuagal rights do not apply to them.

And a crimal orgination such as ISIS has no rights. The indvugales have no rights either, they are crimals

Human rights exist and are different depending where you are in the world. They are enterly dependent on goverments.

Human rights apply to everyone.

Criminal according to whom? America, who holds no sovereignty over the area? Syria, perhaps? Themselves? The idea of criminal is entirely subjective. Even if they are criminals, every person, terrorist, criminal, murder, or otherwise, still hold basic human rights.

Human rights are something that apply universally to all people regardless of the government they live under the rule of. There's a reason why many governments are condemned for violating human rights. If they were allowed to determine the human rights of their own citizens, no government would ever violate human rights.

[Rebels and Saints]

Um, yeah, go ahead. If you're making a profit, it doesn't matter all that much what their motives for purchasing weaponry are.

Blind insane captlisim.

Don't sell nukes to North Korea. Or guns to ISIS. Or wepons to Saudi Arabia.

In the game of economics, all that matters is money.

[Telconi]

I'm pretty sure Russians, Koreans, and Iranians are human beings my dude.

As for the rest, neither presence in the United States, taxes paid to the United States, or United States Citizenship is a pre-requisite for personhood, and thus, human rights.

Human rights don't exist because government said so.

Those individuals are people, but as a group indvuagal rights do not apply to them.

And a crimal orgination such as ISIS has no rights. The indvugales have no rights either, they are crimals

Human rights exist and are different depending where you are in the world. They are enterly dependent on goverments.

If this is true, what's your objection to the Saudis?

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

Those individuals are people, but as a group indvuagal rights do not apply to them.

And a crimal orgination such as ISIS has no rights. The indvugales have no rights either, they are crimals

Human rights exist and are different depending where you are in the world. They are enterly dependent on goverments.

Human rights apply to everyone.

Criminal according to whom? America, who holds no sovereignty over the area? Syria, perhaps? Themselves? The idea of criminal is entirely subjective. Even if they are criminals, every person, terrorist, criminal, murder, or otherwise, still hold basic human rights.

Human rights are something that apply universally to all people regardless of the government they live under the rule of. There's a reason why many governments are condemned for violating human rights. If they were allowed to determine the human rights of their own citizens, no government would ever violate human rights.

Can they be enforced to everyone?

No, they are consepts and ideas that depend where you are in the world.

You must have missted the part where ISIS is commiting genoside, human trafficing, rape, ect.

And the part where Saudi Arabia publicy stones people to death.


You are bending over not only backwards but inverted to say that selling guns to muderers is ok.


This is, madness. Its the most insane defence of an indefenceable opion I have ever seen. And, to be bunt, this opion that its ok to sell guns and nukes to horrable horrable people who actvily do horrable things is compleat and utter bullshit.

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

Those individuals are people, but as a group indvuagal rights do not apply to them.

And a crimal orgination such as ISIS has no rights. The indvugales have no rights either, they are crimals

Human rights exist and are different depending where you are in the world. They are enterly dependent on goverments.

If this is true, what's your objection to the Saudis?

Beacuse of my personal beleafes that what Saudi Arabia is doing is wrong.

Its wrong to stone gay people to death. Its wrong to stone any one to death. What they are doing is horrable