NATION

PASSWORD

MAGAThread XVI: Raising the Barr

For discussion and debate about anything. (Not a roleplay related forum; out-of-character commentary only.)

Advertisement

Remove ads

User avatar
Gormwood
Postmaster-General
 
Posts: 14727
Founded: Mar 25, 2019
Ex-Nation

Postby Gormwood » Wed Jul 31, 2019 7:55 am

Kowani wrote:
Gormwood wrote:When the United States emulating Russia is suddenly a good thing...

Hypocrisy to own the libs?

There is no price ever too high to own the libs.
Bloodthirsty savages who call for violence against the Right while simultaneously being unarmed defenseless sissies who will get slaughtered by the gun-toting Right in a civil war.
Breath So Bad, It Actually Drives People Mad

User avatar
Kowani
Post Czar
 
Posts: 44957
Founded: Apr 01, 2018
Democratic Socialists

Postby Kowani » Wed Jul 31, 2019 7:57 am

Gormwood wrote:
Kowani wrote:Hypocrisy to own the libs?

There is no price ever too high to own the libs.

Helping the libs to own the libs?
American History and Historiography; Political and Labour History, Urbanism, Political Parties, Congressional Procedure, Elections.

Servant of The Democracy since 1896.


Historian, of sorts.

Effortposts can be found here!

User avatar
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp
Post Czar
 
Posts: 34994
Founded: Dec 18, 2013
Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Wed Jul 31, 2019 8:00 am

Gormwood wrote:
Kowani wrote:Hypocrisy to own the libs?

There is no price ever too high to own the libs.


"Did you own the libs?"

"Yes."

"What did it cost?"

"Everything."

User avatar
Loben The 2nd
Senator
 
Posts: 4410
Founded: Apr 29, 2019
Ex-Nation

Postby Loben The 2nd » Wed Jul 31, 2019 8:41 am

Gormwood wrote:
Loben The 2nd wrote:
Meanwhile In Russia.

When the United States emulating Russia is suddenly a good thing...


They’re making money off the backs of idiots who need guns, I fail to see why we can’t do the same.
no quarter.
Satisfaction guaranteed.

User avatar
Ifreann
Post Overlord
 
Posts: 164040
Founded: Aug 07, 2005
Iron Fist Socialists

Postby Ifreann » Wed Jul 31, 2019 8:45 am

Loben The 2nd wrote:
Gormwood wrote:When the United States emulating Russia is suddenly a good thing...


They’re making money off the backs of idiots who need guns, I fail to see why we can’t do the same.

Ethics in the arms trade.
He/Him

beating the devil
we never run from the devil
we never summon the devil
we never hide from from the devil
we never

User avatar
Loben The 2nd
Senator
 
Posts: 4410
Founded: Apr 29, 2019
Ex-Nation

Postby Loben The 2nd » Wed Jul 31, 2019 8:50 am

Ifreann wrote:
Loben The 2nd wrote:
They’re making money off the backs of idiots who need guns, I fail to see why we can’t do the same.

Ethics in the arms trade.

There can be none
no quarter.
Satisfaction guaranteed.

User avatar
Ifreann
Post Overlord
 
Posts: 164040
Founded: Aug 07, 2005
Iron Fist Socialists

Postby Ifreann » Wed Jul 31, 2019 8:54 am

Loben The 2nd wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Ethics in the arms trade.

There can be none

Booo, lrn2ethics
He/Him

beating the devil
we never run from the devil
we never summon the devil
we never hide from from the devil
we never

User avatar
Fartsniffage
Post Czar
 
Posts: 42053
Founded: Dec 19, 2005
Liberal Democratic Socialists

Postby Fartsniffage » Wed Jul 31, 2019 8:57 am

Ifreann wrote:
Loben The 2nd wrote:There can be none

Booo, lrn2ethics


https://youtu.be/38vd_j7e2HY?t=31

User avatar
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp
Post Czar
 
Posts: 34994
Founded: Dec 18, 2013
Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Wed Jul 31, 2019 9:04 am

Loben The 2nd wrote:
Gormwood wrote:When the United States emulating Russia is suddenly a good thing...


They’re making money off the backs of idiots who need guns, I fail to see why we can’t do the same.

If the government of Saudi Arabia were just idiots then it would be ok.

However, the government of Saudi Arabia isn't just idiotic, it's cruel and repressive of it's own citizens freedom.

User avatar
Gormwood
Postmaster-General
 
Posts: 14727
Founded: Mar 25, 2019
Ex-Nation

Postby Gormwood » Wed Jul 31, 2019 9:06 am

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Gormwood wrote:There is no price ever too high to own the libs.


"Did you own the libs?"

"Yes."

"What did it cost?"

"Everything."

"And it was worth it to own the fucking libs!"
Bloodthirsty savages who call for violence against the Right while simultaneously being unarmed defenseless sissies who will get slaughtered by the gun-toting Right in a civil war.
Breath So Bad, It Actually Drives People Mad

User avatar
Scomagia
Post Marshal
 
Posts: 18703
Founded: Apr 14, 2009
Ex-Nation

Postby Scomagia » Wed Jul 31, 2019 10:33 am

Loben The 2nd wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Ethics in the arms trade.

There can be none

Indeed. The moment you choose to sell guns to other states, you're in an ethical pickle.
Insert trite farewell here

User avatar
Loben The 2nd
Senator
 
Posts: 4410
Founded: Apr 29, 2019
Ex-Nation

Postby Loben The 2nd » Wed Jul 31, 2019 10:59 am

Scomagia wrote:
Loben The 2nd wrote:There can be none

Indeed. The moment you choose to sell guns to other states, you're in an ethical pickle.

we sold guns to right wing death squads in the 80s irc, Israel at multiple points (and still do), various "freedom fighters".

Russia meanwhile has its arms seen all over the 3rd world (and Germany too) and its likely one of the things keeping their MIC alive.
no quarter.
Satisfaction guaranteed.

User avatar
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp
Post Czar
 
Posts: 34994
Founded: Dec 18, 2013
Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Wed Jul 31, 2019 11:11 am

Loben The 2nd wrote:
Scomagia wrote:Indeed. The moment you choose to sell guns to other states, you're in an ethical pickle.

we sold guns to right wing death squads in the 80s irc, Israel at multiple points (and still do), various "freedom fighters".

Russia meanwhile has its arms seen all over the 3rd world (and Germany too) and its likely one of the things keeping their MIC alive.

Again, selling those guns to right wing death squads was still a bad thing to do.

So was selling guns to "freedom fighters". With one particularly bad sale of guns to "freedom fighters" being the mujahideen.


Russia doing this does not make it ethical.

The US selling guns to Saudi Arabia is bad and unethical no matter who is in charge.

User avatar
Loben The 2nd
Senator
 
Posts: 4410
Founded: Apr 29, 2019
Ex-Nation

Postby Loben The 2nd » Wed Jul 31, 2019 11:13 am

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Loben The 2nd wrote:we sold guns to right wing death squads in the 80s irc, Israel at multiple points (and still do), various "freedom fighters".

Russia meanwhile has its arms seen all over the 3rd world (and Germany too) and its likely one of the things keeping their MIC alive.

Again, selling those guns to right wing death squads was still a bad thing to do.

So was selling guns to "freedom fighters". With one particularly bad sale of guns to "freedom fighters" being the mujahideen.


Russia doing this does not make it ethical.

The US selling guns to Saudi Arabia is bad and unethical no matter who is in charge.


when is selling arms ethical? Its not like these are teddy bears with a warm cup of milk.
no quarter.
Satisfaction guaranteed.

User avatar
Telconi
Post Czar
 
Posts: 34903
Founded: Oct 08, 2016
Ex-Nation

Postby Telconi » Wed Jul 31, 2019 11:15 am

Loben The 2nd wrote:
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:Again, selling those guns to right wing death squads was still a bad thing to do.

So was selling guns to "freedom fighters". With one particularly bad sale of guns to "freedom fighters" being the mujahideen.


Russia doing this does not make it ethical.

The US selling guns to Saudi Arabia is bad and unethical no matter who is in charge.


when is selling arms ethical? Its not like these are teddy bears with a warm cup of milk.


When the recipient should have guns.
-2.25 LEFT
-3.23 LIBERTARIAN

PRO:
-Weapons Rights
-Gender Equality
-LGBTQ Rights
-Racial Equality
-Religious Freedom
-Freedom of Speech
-Freedom of Association
-Life
-Limited Government
-Non Interventionism
-Labor Unions
-Environmental Protections
ANTI:
-Racism
-Sexism
-Bigotry In All Forms
-Government Overreach
-Government Surveillance
-Freedom For Security Social Transactions
-Unnecessary Taxes
-Excessively Specific Government Programs
-Foreign Entanglements
-Religious Extremism
-Fascists Masquerading as "Social Justice Warriors"

"The Constitution is NOT an instrument for the government to restrain the people,it is an instrument for the people to restrain the government-- lest it come to dominate our lives and interests." ~ Patrick Henry

User avatar
Zurkerx
Retired Moderator
 
Posts: 12371
Founded: Jan 20, 2011
Anarchy

Postby Zurkerx » Wed Jul 31, 2019 11:15 am

The Federal Reserve cuts the interest rates by about .25, lowering them to 2-2.25%, citing implications of global developments for the economic outlook as well as muted inflation pressures.

Hmm, our economy they say has moderate growth and a strong labor market but still cut rates anyway. This is bound to please God Emperor Trump. However, it should be a worrying sign as with these low rates as they are, when a recession hits, especially a bad one, then the feds won't be able to lower the rates as much. Eh, we'll see if it makes a difference but if the economy is already slowing globally, I don't think a rate cut is going to do much.
A Golden Civic: The New Pragmatic Libertarian
My Words: Indeed, Indubitably & Malarkey
Retired Admin in NSGS and NS Parliament

Accountant, Author, History Buff, Political Junkie
“Has ambition so eclipsed principle?” ~ Mitt Romney
"Try not to become a person of success, but rather try to become a person of value." ~ Albert Einstein
"Trust, but verify." ~ Ronald Reagan

User avatar
Loben The 2nd
Senator
 
Posts: 4410
Founded: Apr 29, 2019
Ex-Nation

Postby Loben The 2nd » Wed Jul 31, 2019 11:20 am

Telconi wrote:
Loben The 2nd wrote:
when is selling arms ethical? Its not like these are teddy bears with a warm cup of milk.


When the recipient should have guns.


which is everyone provided they pay for it.
no quarter.
Satisfaction guaranteed.

User avatar
Telconi
Post Czar
 
Posts: 34903
Founded: Oct 08, 2016
Ex-Nation

Postby Telconi » Wed Jul 31, 2019 11:21 am

:?:
Loben The 2nd wrote:
Telconi wrote:
When the recipient should have guns.


which is everyone provided they pay for it.


So all arms sales are erhical.
-2.25 LEFT
-3.23 LIBERTARIAN

PRO:
-Weapons Rights
-Gender Equality
-LGBTQ Rights
-Racial Equality
-Religious Freedom
-Freedom of Speech
-Freedom of Association
-Life
-Limited Government
-Non Interventionism
-Labor Unions
-Environmental Protections
ANTI:
-Racism
-Sexism
-Bigotry In All Forms
-Government Overreach
-Government Surveillance
-Freedom For Security Social Transactions
-Unnecessary Taxes
-Excessively Specific Government Programs
-Foreign Entanglements
-Religious Extremism
-Fascists Masquerading as "Social Justice Warriors"

"The Constitution is NOT an instrument for the government to restrain the people,it is an instrument for the people to restrain the government-- lest it come to dominate our lives and interests." ~ Patrick Henry

User avatar
Loben The 2nd
Senator
 
Posts: 4410
Founded: Apr 29, 2019
Ex-Nation

Postby Loben The 2nd » Wed Jul 31, 2019 11:28 am

Telconi wrote::?:
Loben The 2nd wrote:
which is everyone provided they pay for it.


So all arms sales are erhical.

Yes.
no quarter.
Satisfaction guaranteed.

User avatar
Gormwood
Postmaster-General
 
Posts: 14727
Founded: Mar 25, 2019
Ex-Nation

Postby Gormwood » Wed Jul 31, 2019 11:56 am

Loben The 2nd wrote:
Telconi wrote::?:

So all arms sales are erhical.

Yes.

Since selling military arms to Saudi Arabia is no big deal to you, say, selling a uranium mine to Russia is no big deal to you then either?
Bloodthirsty savages who call for violence against the Right while simultaneously being unarmed defenseless sissies who will get slaughtered by the gun-toting Right in a civil war.
Breath So Bad, It Actually Drives People Mad

User avatar
Telconi
Post Czar
 
Posts: 34903
Founded: Oct 08, 2016
Ex-Nation

Postby Telconi » Wed Jul 31, 2019 12:12 pm

Gormwood wrote:
Loben The 2nd wrote:Yes.

Since selling military arms to Saudi Arabia is no big deal to you, say, selling a uranium mine to Russia is no big deal to you then either?


Not Loben, but I can't see why it would be.
-2.25 LEFT
-3.23 LIBERTARIAN

PRO:
-Weapons Rights
-Gender Equality
-LGBTQ Rights
-Racial Equality
-Religious Freedom
-Freedom of Speech
-Freedom of Association
-Life
-Limited Government
-Non Interventionism
-Labor Unions
-Environmental Protections
ANTI:
-Racism
-Sexism
-Bigotry In All Forms
-Government Overreach
-Government Surveillance
-Freedom For Security Social Transactions
-Unnecessary Taxes
-Excessively Specific Government Programs
-Foreign Entanglements
-Religious Extremism
-Fascists Masquerading as "Social Justice Warriors"

"The Constitution is NOT an instrument for the government to restrain the people,it is an instrument for the people to restrain the government-- lest it come to dominate our lives and interests." ~ Patrick Henry

User avatar
An Alan Smithee Nation
Powerbroker
 
Posts: 7623
Founded: Apr 18, 2018
Ex-Nation

Postby An Alan Smithee Nation » Wed Jul 31, 2019 12:15 pm

Loben The 2nd wrote:
Telconi wrote::?:

So all arms sales are erhical.

Yes.


Selling guns to ISIS is ethical?

Maybe the US should just sell North Korea and Iran some nukes.
Last edited by An Alan Smithee Nation on Wed Jul 31, 2019 12:22 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Everything is intertwinkled

User avatar
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp
Post Czar
 
Posts: 34994
Founded: Dec 18, 2013
Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Wed Jul 31, 2019 1:31 pm

Loben The 2nd wrote:
Telconi wrote::?:

So all arms sales are erhical.

Yes.



TIL: selling guns to the mob, terrorests, gang members, pimps, mass murders and, other criminals is perfictly ok aslong as they can pay for it.

User avatar
Telconi
Post Czar
 
Posts: 34903
Founded: Oct 08, 2016
Ex-Nation

Postby Telconi » Wed Jul 31, 2019 1:31 pm

An Alan Smithee Nation wrote:
Loben The 2nd wrote:Yes.


Selling guns to ISIS is ethical?

Maybe the US should just sell North Korea and Iran some nukes.


Unironically this.
-2.25 LEFT
-3.23 LIBERTARIAN

PRO:
-Weapons Rights
-Gender Equality
-LGBTQ Rights
-Racial Equality
-Religious Freedom
-Freedom of Speech
-Freedom of Association
-Life
-Limited Government
-Non Interventionism
-Labor Unions
-Environmental Protections
ANTI:
-Racism
-Sexism
-Bigotry In All Forms
-Government Overreach
-Government Surveillance
-Freedom For Security Social Transactions
-Unnecessary Taxes
-Excessively Specific Government Programs
-Foreign Entanglements
-Religious Extremism
-Fascists Masquerading as "Social Justice Warriors"

"The Constitution is NOT an instrument for the government to restrain the people,it is an instrument for the people to restrain the government-- lest it come to dominate our lives and interests." ~ Patrick Henry

User avatar
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp
Post Czar
 
Posts: 34994
Founded: Dec 18, 2013
Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Wed Jul 31, 2019 1:33 pm

Telconi wrote:
An Alan Smithee Nation wrote:
Selling guns to ISIS is ethical?

Maybe the US should just sell North Korea and Iran some nukes.


Unironically this.


Bruh

PreviousNext

Advertisement

Remove ads

Return to General

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Almighty Biden, Ancientania, Bienenhalde, Celritannia, Cerula, Christian Legion of America, Duvniask, Eahland, El Lazaro, Emotional Support Crocodile, Ethel mermania, Galati-Braila Metropolitan Area, Galmat, Herzikland, Hidrandia, Kerwa, Neonian Imperium, Oceara, The Aosta Valley, Tiami, Tungstan, UMi-NazKapp Group, Valyxias, Western Theram, Zurkerx

Advertisement

Remove ads