Absolutely American Terror Territory

[The Emerald Legion]

Coming to America is a privilege and we are well within our rights to screen out undesirables. This is a non-issue.

#notracistbut

Because white people don't use the internet.

[Ifreann]

Perhaps we in the rest of the world need to take a close look at whether Google, Microsoft, Apple, Amazon, and Facebook are complying with data protection law. Maybe they are all too closely linked to the US government.

We've got Facebook, at least.

[Nova Cyberia]

"Let's thoroughly vet people who come into the country."

"What a terrible idea."

???

[Ifreann]

"Let's thoroughly vet people who come into the country."

"What a terrible idea."

???

It pretty much is. You're not realistically going to make your country any safer by reading people's Facebook posts. All you'll do is deter tourists who don't want to go to all the trouble of flying to the US only to get denied entry because they retweeted AOC one time.

[Nova Cyberia]

"Let's thoroughly vet people who come into the country."

"What a terrible idea."

???

It pretty much is. You're not realistically going to make your country any safer by reading people's Facebook posts. All you'll do is deter tourists who don't want to go to all the trouble of flying to the US only to get denied entry because they retweeted AOC one time.

Tourists don't need visas, so you literally have no clue what you're talking about.

[Telconi]

"Let's thoroughly vet people who come into the country."

"What a terrible idea."

???

It pretty much is. You're not realistically going to make your country any safer by reading people's Facebook posts. All you'll do is deter tourists who don't want to go to all the trouble of flying to the US only to get denied entry because they retweeted AOC one time.

Did they retweet AOC in a mocking or insulting manner?

[Ifreann]

It pretty much is. You're not realistically going to make your country any safer by reading people's Facebook posts. All you'll do is deter tourists who don't want to go to all the trouble of flying to the US only to get denied entry because they retweeted AOC one time.

Tourists don't need visas, so you literally have no clue what you're talking about.

Department of State, Bureau of Consular Affairs.

Generally, a citizen of a foreign country who wishes to enter the United States must first obtain a visa, either a nonimmigrant visa for a temporary stay, or an immigrant visa for permanent residence. Visitor visas are nonimmigrant visas for persons who want to enter the United States temporarily for business (visa category B-1), for tourism (visa category B-2), or for a combination of both purposes (B-1/B-2).

[Nova Cyberia]

Tourists don't need visas, so you literally have no clue what you're talking about.

Department of State, Bureau of Consular Affairs.

Generally, a citizen of a foreign country who wishes to enter the United States must first obtain a visa, either a nonimmigrant visa for a temporary stay, or an immigrant visa for permanent residence. Visitor visas are nonimmigrant visas for persons who want to enter the United States temporarily for business (visa category B-1), for tourism (visa category B-2), or for a combination of both purposes (B-1/B-2).

38 countries have visa waiver programs with the US.

However, you do not need a visa for your business meeting or for vacation if you are a citizen of the 38 countries participating in the Visa Waiver Program.

[Ifreann]

Department of State, Bureau of Consular Affairs.

38 countries have visa waiver programs with the US.

However, you do not need a visa for your business meeting or for vacation if you are a citizen of the 38 countries participating in the Visa Waiver Program.

So tourists do need a visa in general, with exceptions.

And making them provide a list of social media accounts in order to get a visa isn't going to encourage them to do so.

[Loben The 2nd]

38 countries have visa waiver programs with the US.

So tourists do need a visa in general, with exceptions.

And making them provide a list of social media accounts in order to get a visa isn't going to encourage them to do so.

What’s there to hide? Ringing endorsements of the IRA or RAF? (Red Army Faction)

[Ethel mermania]

Tourists don't need visas, so you literally have no clue what you're talking about.

Department of State, Bureau of Consular Affairs.

Generally, a citizen of a foreign country who wishes to enter the United States must first obtain a visa, either a nonimmigrant visa for a temporary stay, or an immigrant visa for permanent residence. Visitor visas are nonimmigrant visas for persons who want to enter the United States temporarily for business (visa category B-1), for tourism (visa category B-2), or for a combination of both purposes (B-1/B-2).

The us has reciprocity when it comes to Visasn If the foreigners
government does not require a Visa for American citizens to visit, the US generally does not require a Visa for entrance of 30 days or less.

[Jabberwocky]

Here in the US, you must bend the knee a d swear fealty to the Donnie or be branded a traitor

[Ethel mermania]

Here in the US, you must bend the knee a d swear fealty to the Donnie or be branded a traitor

Yet you are still walking free. amazing

[Nova Cyberia]

38 countries have visa waiver programs with the US.

So tourists do need a visa in general, with exceptions.

And making them provide a list of social media accounts in order to get a visa isn't going to encourage them to do so.

Tourists visiting from Visa Waiver countries like Canada, Frane, the UK, Germany, Australia, etc, don't.

Considering these countries also supply us with most of our tourists... no, it really won't.

Again, you have no idea what you're talking about.

[Novus America]

You shouldn't, because any slipup (or even lack thereof) can be counted against you. Not a Trumpist? The corrupt applications of this measure are endless, and trusting Trump (really, Stephen Miller) with a just and fair application is like trusting me to say something positive about Trump.

Stephen Miller does not even work for DHS.
Not USCIS.
He does not do background checks.

Members of the civil service do, and the president has very little power with the civil service.

[Novus America]

"Let's thoroughly vet people who come into the country."

"What a terrible idea."

???

It pretty much is. You're not realistically going to make your country any safer by reading people's Facebook posts. All you'll do is deter tourists who don't want to go to all the trouble of flying to the US only to get denied entry because they retweeted AOC one time.

Obviously it is not a silver bullet by you can find good information.
It is just one part of a background check.

[Nova Cyberia]

It pretty much is. You're not realistically going to make your country any safer by reading people's Facebook posts. All you'll do is deter tourists who don't want to go to all the trouble of flying to the US only to get denied entry because they retweeted AOC one time.

Obviously it is not a silver bullet by you can find good information.
It is just one part of a background check.

Social media checks are required just to get certain jobs, yet apparently applying it to immigration is controversial.

Hilarious.

[Ifreann]

So tourists do need a visa in general, with exceptions.

And making them provide a list of social media accounts in order to get a visa isn't going to encourage them to do so.

What’s there to hide? Ringing endorsements of the IRA or RAF? (Red Army Faction)

Or making fun of Trump.

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So tourists do need a visa in general, with exceptions.

And making them provide a list of social media accounts in order to get a visa isn't going to encourage them to do so.

Tourists visiting from Visa Waiver countries like Canada, Frane, the UK, Germany, Australia, etc, don't.

Yes, those are the exceptions. Well, not Canada. They're not part of the Visa Waiver Program.

Considering these countries also supply us with most of our tourists... no, it really won't.

That was 2013. And the VWP didn't cover the 44.69 million visitors from Canada, Mexico, Brazil, China, India, Venezuela, Colombia, or Argentina. Which was most of your 69.8 million visitors that year.

And the public perception that the feds will want to look through your social media before letting you in may deter people from VWP countries who wouldn't actually need to submit to social media checks.

Again, you have no idea what you're talking about.

Look, if you want it to be true that tourists don't need a visa to visit the US then take it up with the Department of State, they're the ones issuing B-2 visas to tourists. I can't help you.

[Ifreann]

Obviously it is not a silver bullet by you can find good information.
It is just one part of a background check.

Social media checks are required just to get certain jobs, yet apparently applying it to immigration is controversial.

Hilarious.

That's shit too, but for different reasons.

[Nova Cyberia]

What’s there to hide? Ringing endorsements of the IRA or RAF? (Red Army Faction)

Or making fun of Trump.

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Tourists visiting from Visa Waiver countries like Canada, Frane, the UK, Germany, Australia, etc, don't.

Yes, those are the exceptions. Well, not Canada. They're not part of the Visa Waiver Program.

Considering these countries also supply us with most of our tourists... no, it really won't.

That was 2013. And the VWP didn't cover the 44.69 million visitors from Canada, Mexico, Brazil, China, India, Venezuela, Colombia, or Argentina. Which was most of your 69.8 million visitors that year.

And the public perception that the feds will want to look through your social media before letting you in may deter people from VWP countries who wouldn't actually need to submit to social media checks.

Why? Unless you've repeatedly spammed "Fuck All Niggers" on Facebook it shouldn't be a problem.

Considering the presence of terrorists and other radical groups on social media, checking one's social media before they come to the US seems like a logical step.

Many jobs will check your social media before hiring you. Why not do the same for immigrants and visitors?

There's no logical reason not to behind your vague assertation that the perception may keep tourists out, which you're also incapable of proving.

Again, you have no idea what you're talking about.

Look, if you want it to be true that tourists don't need a visa to visit the US then take it up with the Department of State, they're the ones issuing B-2 visas to tourists. I can't help you.

Oversimplifying issues isn't a good look.