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Postby Nova Cyberia » Mon May 27, 2019 6:29 pm

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-48146305
The persecution of Christians in parts of the world is at near "genocide" levels, according to a report ordered by Foreign Secretary Jeremy Hunt.

The review, led by the Bishop of Truro the Right Reverend Philip Mounstephen, estimated that one in three people suffer from religious persecution.

Christians were the most persecuted religious group, it found.

Mr Hunt said he felt that "political correctness" had played a part in the issue not being confronted.

The interim report said the main impact of "genocidal acts against Christians is exodus" and that Christianity faced being "wiped out" from parts of the Middle East.

It warned the religion "is at risk of disappearing" in some parts of the world, pointing to figures which claimed Christians in Palestine represent less than 1.5% of the population, while in Iraq they had fallen from 1.5 million before 2003 to less than 120,000.

"Evidence shows not only the geographic spread of anti-Christian persecution, but also its increasing severity," the Bishop wrote.

Prince Charles: "It is an indescribable tragedy that Christianity is now under such threat in the Middle East''

"In some regions, the level and nature of persecution is arguably coming close to meeting the international definition of genocide, according to that adopted by the UN."

The foreign secretary commissioned the review on Boxing Day 2018 amid an outcry over the treatment of Asia Bibi, a Christian woman who faced death threats after being acquitted of blasphemy in Pakistan.

Its findings come after more than 250 people were killed and more than 500 wounded in attacks at hotels and churches in Sri Lanka on Easter Sunday.

Mr Hunt, who is on a week-long tour of Africa, said he thought governments had been "asleep" over the persecution of Christians but that this report and the attacks in Sri Lanka had "woken everyone up with an enormous shock".

He added: "I think there is a misplaced worry that it is somehow colonialist to talk about a religion that was associated with colonial powers rather than the countries that we marched into as colonisers.

'Atmosphere of political correctness'

"That has perhaps created an awkwardness in talking about this issue - the role of missionaries was always a controversial one and that has, I think, also led some people to shy away from this topic.

"What we have forgotten in that atmosphere of political correctness is actually the Christians that are being persecuted are some of the poorest people on the planet."

In response to the report, the president of the Board of Deputies of British Jews, Marie van der Zyl, said Jews had often been the targets of persecution and felt for Christians who were discriminated against on the basis of their faith.

"Whether it is in authoritarian regimes, or bigotry masked in the mistaken guise of religion, reports like the one launched today remind us that there are many places in which Christians face appalling levels of violence, abuse and harassment," she said.

The review is due to publish its final findings in the summer.

So, while everyone moans about the backlash against Muslims following Muslim terrorist attacks, a new report ordered by the UK Foreign Secretary shows that Christians are now the most persecuted religious group in the world, yet few seem willing to acknowledge this or confront the problem. My question is: what should be done about this global persecution that is nearly reaching genocide levels? The number of Christians dropped drastically in places like Palestine and Iraq. I think this needs to be talked about a hell of a lot more frequently. Most importantly, we need to recognize that Christophobia (is that a word?) is a far bigger problem than Islamaphobia.
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Country of CityTowne wrote:Lovely! Really great! Amazing!

Not really, but an eye for an eye sure does sound appet-eye-sing.

What do you mean "eye for an eye"?
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Postby Lanorth » Mon May 27, 2019 6:34 pm

I doubt that the Middle Easterns will wipe out Christianity. There will probably be some scattered Christian movements dotted around the Middle East who believe in the Christian God.
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Postby Inkopolitia » Mon May 27, 2019 6:34 pm

Country of CityTowne wrote:Lovely! Really great! Amazing!

Not really, but an eye for an eye sure does sound appet-eye-sing.

Advocating for the death of people just because of their religion... Damn
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Postby New Legland » Mon May 27, 2019 6:39 pm

Sounds like the actual persecution is occurring in theocracies, in which case, it shouldn't receive any more attention than the persecution of every other group the fundamentalists in those places think are evil.

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Postby Diarcesia » Mon May 27, 2019 6:40 pm

Nova Cyberia wrote:So, while everyone moans about the backlash against Muslims following Muslim terrorist attacks, a new report ordered by the UK Foreign Secretary shows that Christians are now the most persecuted religious group in the world, yet few seem willing to acknowledge this or confront the problem. My question is: what should be done about this global persecution that is nearly reaching genocide levels? The number of Christians dropped drastically in places like Palestine and Iraq. I think this needs to be talked about a hell of a lot more frequently. Most importantly, we need to recognize that Christophobia (is that a word?) Is a far bigger problem than Islamaphobia.

What's your opinion what what's needs to be done?

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Postby Nova Cyberia » Mon May 27, 2019 6:40 pm

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Nova Cyberia wrote:What do you mean "eye for an eye"?


I meant Christians've killed a lot more people off than one might expect at first gland, especially way back when. Eye'm not normally one who believes in karma, but it's certainly clear to see.

Don't get me wrong, normally I'm not much for spectacles like this and am in fact quite against to what is happening.

Karma? No one alive today is responsible for what you're talking about.

That's fucking barbaric, dude.
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Postby Nova Cyberia » Mon May 27, 2019 6:41 pm

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Nova Cyberia wrote:So, while everyone moans about the backlash against Muslims following Muslim terrorist attacks, a new report ordered by the UK Foreign Secretary shows that Christians are now the most persecuted religious group in the world, yet few seem willing to acknowledge this or confront the problem. My question is: what should be done about this global persecution that is nearly reaching genocide levels? The number of Christians dropped drastically in places like Palestine and Iraq. I think this needs to be talked about a hell of a lot more frequently. Most importantly, we need to recognize that Christophobia (is that a word?) Is a far bigger problem than Islamaphobia.

What's your opinion what what's needs to be done?
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Postby Farnhamia » Mon May 27, 2019 6:41 pm

Country of CityTowne wrote:
Nova Cyberia wrote:What do you mean "eye for an eye"?


I meant Christians've killed a lot more people off than one might expect at first gland, especially way back when. Eye'm not normally one who believes in karma, but it's certainly clear to see.

Don't get me wrong, normally I'm not much for spectacles like this and am in fact quite against to what is happening.

Very amusing. Also, borderline trolling. Do not continue in this vein.
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Postby USS Monitor » Mon May 27, 2019 6:42 pm

I'm sure a Bishop is a totally unbiased source. :roll:
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Postby Lake Sailsburg » Mon May 27, 2019 6:44 pm

Remember that Christianity went from the most persecuted faith in Rome to the largest in the world, and have hope.

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Postby Andsed » Mon May 27, 2019 6:44 pm

Jeeze if that is actually true and accurate then yeah that is horrible and needs to be addressed. Persecution against a group because of their religion is not something we should tolerate.
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Postby Nova Cyberia » Mon May 27, 2019 6:45 pm

USS Monitor wrote:I'm sure a Bishop is a totally unbiased source. :roll:

I'm sure you can totally disprove the review's findings, then.
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Postby Minachia » Mon May 27, 2019 6:47 pm

USS Monitor wrote:I'm sure a Bishop is a totally unbiased source. :roll:

Maybe, but probably not the British Foreign Secretary.
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Postby Diarcesia » Mon May 27, 2019 6:48 pm

Nova Cyberia wrote:
Diarcesia wrote:What's your opinion what what's needs to be done?

Something more concrete than that? I think Christian persecution is talked about all the time, and depending on where you are, to the point that persecution of other religions is swept under the ground or low key invalidated because of "what about the Christians?".

I see what you're saying. Yes, there should be more awareness. For my part, I have my spidey senses tingling because there are people who would advocate stupid stuff like blanket bans or religious profiling, which yes, placates an angry populace, but will not make things better in the long run.

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Postby Torrocca » Mon May 27, 2019 6:49 pm

So Christians are facing persecution in theocracies which, as we all know, are totally unknown for their intolerances for all but The One True FaithTM, and... we should be outraged on behalf of Christianity?

I mean, I guess. Not sure why Christianity has to be specified when it's not the only religious group that suffers under theocratic rule when we should be outraged that all religious minorities get persecuted under theocratic regimes.

Nova Cyberia wrote:I'm sure you can totally disprove the review's findings, then.


That's not how proof works, chief.
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Postby Fartsniffage » Mon May 27, 2019 6:49 pm

Minachia wrote:
USS Monitor wrote:I'm sure a Bishop is a totally unbiased source. :roll:

Maybe, but probably not the British Foreign Secretary.


Jonathan Hunt is a cretin of the worst kind. I wouldn't trust him if he said grass was green.

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Postby Neutraligon » Mon May 27, 2019 6:51 pm

Can I have a link to the original report?
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Postby Nova Cyberia » Mon May 27, 2019 6:51 pm

Torrocca wrote:So Christians are facing persecution in theocracies which, as we all know, are totally unknown for their intolerances for all but The One True FaithTM, and... we should be outraged on behalf of Christianity?

I mean, I guess. Not sure why Christianity has to be specified when it's not the only religious group that suffers under theocratic rule when we should be outraged that all religious minorities get persecuted under theocratic regimes.



That's not how proof works, chief.

Because.... it's the most persecuted religion in the world? I mean, I kind of thought that was obvious.

Also, you're acknowledging that Palestine's a theocracy?
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Postby Minachia » Mon May 27, 2019 6:51 pm

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Minachia wrote:Maybe, but probably not the British Foreign Secretary.


Jonathan Hunt is a cretin of the worst kind. I wouldn't trust him if he said grass was green.

Ad hominem attack is ad hominem, but whatever.
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Postby Torrocca » Mon May 27, 2019 6:52 pm

Nova Cyberia wrote:
Torrocca wrote:So Christians are facing persecution in theocracies which, as we all know, are totally unknown for their intolerances for all but The One True FaithTM, and... we should be outraged on behalf of Christianity?

I mean, I guess. Not sure why Christianity has to be specified when it's not the only religious group that suffers under theocratic rule when we should be outraged that all religious minorities get persecuted under theocratic regimes.



That's not how proof works, chief.

Because.... it's the most persecuted religion in the world? I mean, I kind of thought that was obvious.


Wow, you're saying the single biggest religion in the world is also the most persecuted? Say it ain't so!

Also, you're acknowledging that Palestine's a theocracy?


Palestine's an outlier.
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Postby Diarcesia » Mon May 27, 2019 6:52 pm

Andsed wrote:Jeeze if that is actually true and accurate then yeah that is horrible and needs to be addressed. Persecution against a group because of their religion is not something we should tolerate.

It didn't help that in the geopolitical context, Christianity is associated with the West. I think that ME Muslims see things something like Arabs/Islam vs the West/Christianity, and they see the latter as a threat in the sense that it is a front to advance Western interests at the Arab's expense. Therefore, they justify persecuting Christians. That they don't profess Islam's tenets and thus considered infidels makes the justification much easier in their eyes.

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