Desmond Napoles or how gender 'liberation' can lead to abuse

[Aclion]

Less puritan and more thinking that just maybe, kids shouldn’t dance in strip clubs while being given dollar bills by a bunch of cheering patrons? For fuck’s sake, some children are more mature than others but it shouldn’t be a controversial statement to say that kids shouldn’t be allowed into and to participate in strip clubs.

Drag is not stripping.

But he is stripping. He is going on stage and removing clothes as a performance. That is stripping.

[Ors Might]

Drag is, however, dancing in a strip club?

Nope.

So then this has to do with what? Because I didn’t mention drag in my post.

Christ, care to explain why you’re defending children dancing in seedy bars for the entertainment of drunk adults?

[Cannot think of a name]

Drag is not stripping.

But he is stripping. He is going on stage and removing clothes as a performance. That is stripping.

He takes off a smock to reveal a fully clothed costume which is more modest than the performer he is imitating. That is not stripping.

[Vassenor]

But he is stripping. He is going on stage and removing clothes as a performance. That is stripping.

He takes off a smock to reveal a fully clothed costume which is more modest than the performer he is imitating. That is not stripping.

B-but think of the children! Why won't you think of the children!?

[Cannot think of a name]

Nope.

So then this has to do with what? Because I didn’t mention drag in my post.

Did you not know this whole thread is about a drag performance?

Christ, care to explain why you’re defending children dancing in seedy bars for the entertainment of drunk adults?

What makes it seedy?

[Washington Resistance Army]

Nope.

So then this has to do with what? Because I didn’t mention drag in my post.

Christ, care to explain why you’re defending children dancing in seedy bars for the entertainment of drunk adults?

#progress and #equality

[Galloism]

But he is stripping. He is going on stage and removing clothes as a performance. That is stripping.

He takes off a smock to reveal a fully clothed costume which is more modest than the performer he is imitating. That is not stripping.

Here's an interesting thing: some states and localities have banned full nudity in strip clubs. The dancers in these strip clubs often use pasties to prevent nipple exposure and a thong to prevent vagina exposure. They still dance and imitate the dancers where full nudity is legal, up to and including rubbing the nipples, etc, for erotic purposes, but they are more modest than the strippers they are imitating.

Which means it's not REALLY stripping, because they are fully clothed in a costume that is more modest than the performers they are imitating.

It's a nice family friendly event.

[Ors Might]

So then this has to do with what? Because I didn’t mention drag in my post.

Did you not know this whole thread is about a drag performance?

Christ, care to explain why you’re defending children dancing in seedy bars for the entertainment of drunk adults?

What makes it seedy?

It’s about a child dancing in a bar for the entertainment of drunk adults. The fact that the kid is a drag queen (drag princess?) is irrelevant to my criticisms and to my post.

If the bar was clean and tidy, would that really change anything?

[Cannot think of a name]

He takes off a smock to reveal a fully clothed costume which is more modest than the performer he is imitating. That is not stripping.

Here's an interesting thing: some states and localities have banned full nudity in strip clubs. The dancers in these strip clubs often use pasties to prevent nipple exposure and a thong to prevent vagina exposure. They still dance and imitate the dancers where full nudity is legal, up to and including rubbing the nipples, etc, for erotic purposes, but they are more modest than the strippers they are imitating.

Which means it's not REALLY stripping, because they are fully clothed in a costume that is more modest than the performers they are imitating.

It's a nice family friendly event.

Hahaahhahahaaaa...

You gotta limber up before you go for a stretch like that one.

[Galloism]

Christ, care to explain why you’re defending children dancing in seedy bars for the entertainment of drunk adults?

What makes it seedy?

We can start with this:

[Galloism]

Here's an interesting thing: some states and localities have banned full nudity in strip clubs. The dancers in these strip clubs often use pasties to prevent nipple exposure and a thong to prevent vagina exposure. They still dance and imitate the dancers where full nudity is legal, up to and including rubbing the nipples, etc, for erotic purposes, but they are more modest than the strippers they are imitating.

Which means it's not REALLY stripping, because they are fully clothed in a costume that is more modest than the performers they are imitating.

It's a nice family friendly event.

Hahaahhahahaaaa...

You gotta limber up before you go for a stretch like that one.

Don't make poorly thought out arguments, because I can apply them to other similar things.

Your argument fits those totes-not-really-strip-joints like a glove.

[Ors Might]

What makes it seedy?

We can start with this:

What a suitable environment for children

[Cannot think of a name]

Did you not know this whole thread is about a drag performance?

What makes it seedy?

It’s about a child dancing in a bar for the entertainment of drunk adults. The fact that the kid is a drag queen (drag princess?) is irrelevant to my criticisms and to my post.

If the bar was clean and tidy, would that really change anything?

I lead a saxophone quartet made up of teenagers in a bar once. I guess I should go turn myself in. I played at a club when I was a teenager, I should go report those bastards as well, I guess...

[Cannot think of a name]

What makes it seedy?

We can start with this:

Is this the 18th century where legs are scandalous?

[Ors Might]

It’s about a child dancing in a bar for the entertainment of drunk adults. The fact that the kid is a drag queen (drag princess?) is irrelevant to my criticisms and to my post.

If the bar was clean and tidy, would that really change anything?

I lead a saxophone quartet made up of teenagers in a bar once. I guess I should go turn myself in. I played at a club when I was a teenager, I should go report those bastards as well, I guess...

Don’t pull that shit. You know full well that this isn’t the same as that.

Children dancing in a strip bar is not the same thing as you playing in a band.

[Cannot think of a name]

Hahaahhahahaaaa...

You gotta limber up before you go for a stretch like that one.

Don't make poorly thought out arguments, because I can apply them to other similar things.

Your argument fits those totes-not-really-strip-joints like a glove.

I'll have to remember to put up a feinting warning on shows where me or one of the performers takes off a jacket. I wouldn't want to scandalize anyone.

[Ors Might]

We can start with this:

Is this the 18th century where legs are scandalous?

Are you going to argue that a leg in fishnet stockings in that pose has never held sexual connotations?

[Cannot think of a name]

I lead a saxophone quartet made up of teenagers in a bar once. I guess I should go turn myself in. I played at a club when I was a teenager, I should go report those bastards as well, I guess...

Don’t pull that shit. You know full well that this isn’t the same as that.

Children dancing in a strip bar is not the same thing as you playing in a band.

Still not a strip bar.

[Cannot think of a name]

Is this the 18th century where legs are scandalous?

Are you going to argue that a leg in fishnet stockings in that pose has never held sexual connotations?

I don't think you know what fishnets are. Or have seen them. Or something, whatever it is that makes you think leg hair is fishnets.

[Galloism]

Is this the 18th century where legs are scandalous?

You may not know this, but symbols have meanings.

Here's the follies strip club:



Here's one for an erotic dance club:



Here's one for a gentleman's club:



I think you get the picture.

[Ors Might]

Don’t pull that shit. You know full well that this isn’t the same as that.

Children dancing in a strip bar is not the same thing as you playing in a band.

Still not a strip bar.

I don’t think that the difference between a strip bar and a normal bar is all that important in regards to children dancing for the entertainment of drunks. But you ride those technicalities all day long.

Are you going to argue that a leg in fishnet stockings in that pose has never held sexual connotations?

I don't think you know what fishnets are. Or have seen them. Or something, whatever it is that makes you think leg hair is fishnets.

Sue me, thought they were fishnets at first glance. I’m blaming the grays and my lack of sleep.

Now, are you going to argue that a leg in that pose has never held sexual connotations?

[Cappuccina]

Less puritan and more thinking that just maybe, kids shouldn’t dance in strip clubs while being given dollar bills by a bunch of cheering patrons? For fuck’s sake, some children are more mature than others but it shouldn’t be a controversial statement to say that kids shouldn’t be allowed into and to participate in strip clubs.

Drag is not stripping.

It is when you have cheering adults, in a strip club, throwing $1s.....like stripping.

[Washington Resistance Army]

Drag is not stripping.

It is when you have cheering adults, in a strip club, throwing $1s.....like stripping.

but anon they handed him dollar bills, that makes it totally not sexual!

[Galloism]

I'll have to remember to put up a feinting warning on shows where me or one of the performers takes off a jacket. I wouldn't want to scandalize anyone.

I would say if they were removing the jacket in order to sexually titillate the crowd, that's a form of stripping.

Hell, most male strippers at bachelorette parties start out fully clothed with a jacket on, and gradually strip down. The stripping doesn't start once the shirt comes off.

[Cappuccina]

It is when you have cheering adults, in a strip club, throwing $1s.....like stripping.

but anon they handed him dollar bills, that makes it totally not sexual!

Gots ta groom'em all gentle like!