Desmond Napoles or how gender 'liberation' can lead to abuse

[Cannot think of a name]

Once you decode all your language, it becomes less inflammatory. Throwing is a harsher implication that being handed bills, stripping is more salacious than taking off a smock to reveal...someone who is still fully clothed and in the tradition of drag wearing the costume of the performer they're imitating, and apparently I've been using "wooo" wrong this entire time.

Throwing is less inflammatory because it doesn't involve close contact between the spectator and the performer or the performer being party to the transfer.

If you're playing twister to fit this into a narrative, sure. Then any version of it is salacious.

[Galloism]

That's less relevant of a distinction than you would assume.

Once you decode all your language, it becomes less inflammatory. Throwing is a harsher implication that being handed bills, stripping is more salacious than taking off a smock to reveal...someone who is still fully clothed and in the tradition of drag wearing the costume of the performer they're imitating, and apparently I've been using "wooo" wrong this entire time.

I mean, you can turn anything into something less inflammatory if you "decode" it. We recall Koss literally coding a man raped by a woman as "unwanted contact".

As far as you using woooo wrong this entire time, I suggest you visit more exotic dancing clubs, then compare your experience with what you see in the video.

Besides, now you have a research reason to go to a strip club.

[Galloism]

Did you... did you even read what I posted?

Apparently not, at least not the last sentence.

When I read it again my response made no sense.

Sorry, i'm also on the phone.

[Des-Bal]

If you're playing twister to fit this into a narrative, sure. Then any version of it is salacious.

Just the opposite: this is not okay, you cannot make it seem okay, and no matter who you call a homophobe it's not going to become okay.

[Aclion]

But you are defending it. Attacking those that call this out is defending it.


Doesn't it? Is OUT not part of the LGBT community? and if not why does the LGBT community allow OUT to speak for it?

No it doesnt, because an organisation or two from a community supporting something doesnt mean everyone in that community supports it. They are not a hive mind, just because one group of people of a communtity support something doesnt mean the rest of them to simply because they are from the same community.

One would expect, given how vocal the LGBT community seems to be about... basically everything, that there would be some outrage visible on their part if they objected. It seems that if there are any LGBT people who oppose this they have been effectively deplatformed by their own movement.

[Cappuccina]

So yeah, this thread is basically distilled concern trolling?

No, it really isn't. It's a muddle of ppl claiming all LBGT ppl are pedophilic and some ppl seeing nothing wrong with a kid dancing for drunk adults like a stripper.

[Liriena]

But you are defending it. Attacking those that call this out is defending it.


Doesn't it? Is OUT not part of the LGBT community? and if not why does the LGBT community allow OUT to speak for it?

No it doesnt, because an organisation or two from a community supporting something doesnt mean everyone in that community supports it. They are not a hive mind, just because one group of people of a communtity support something doesnt mean the rest of them to simply because they are from the same community.

Imagine if we applied Aclion's logic to the seemingly endless sexual degeneracy of gender conforming heterosexuals. Soooooo many fucked up forms of heterosexual entertainment that flirt with pedophilia.

[Liriena]

Did you... did you even read what I posted?

Apparently not, at least not the last sentence.

When I read it again my response made no sense.

Sorry, i'm also on the phone.

I can relate. Phone posting is a nightmare.

[Washington Resistance Army]

No it doesnt, because an organisation or two from a community supporting something doesnt mean everyone in that community supports it. They are not a hive mind, just because one group of people of a communtity support something doesnt mean the rest of them to simply because they are from the same community.

Imagine if we applied Aclion's logic to the seemingly endless sexual degeneracy of gender conforming heterosexuals. Soooooo many fucked up forms of heterosexual entertainment that flirt with pedophilia.

All that shit should be destroyed by force too.

[Cannot think of a name]

So yeah, this thread is basically distilled concern trolling?

No, it really isn't. It's a muddle of ppl claiming all LBGT ppl are pedophilic and some ppl seeing nothing wrong with a kid dancing for drunk adults like a stripper.

Like Gwen Stefani.

[Liriena]

Imagine if we applied Aclion's logic to the seemingly endless sexual degeneracy of gender conforming heterosexuals. Soooooo many fucked up forms of heterosexual entertainment that flirt with pedophilia.

All that shit should be destroyed by force too.

Ah, but your TV channels and porn websites continue to circulate it. Are you saying that they are not reflective of the heterosexual community?

(Just fyi, I'm not actually trying to own or "no u" you here. Just expanding on my previous point about Aclion's line of thought)

[Liriena]

No, it really isn't. It's a muddle of ppl claiming all LBGT ppl are pedophilic and some ppl seeing nothing wrong with a kid dancing for drunk adults like a stripper.

Like Gwen Stefani.

Unexpected cosmic coincidences: I'm listening to No Doubt right now. Thanks Captain Marvel!

[Cappuccina]

No, it really isn't. It's a muddle of ppl claiming all LBGT ppl are pedophilic and some ppl seeing nothing wrong with a kid dancing for drunk adults like a stripper.

Like Gwen Stefani.

Wut?

[Des-Bal]

Like Gwen Stefani.

She's not dancing for dollar bills in a creep bar.

No, it really isn't. It's a muddle of ppl claiming all LBGT ppl are pedophilic and some ppl seeing nothing wrong with a kid dancing for drunk adults like a stripper.

I'm not really seeing many people saying all the "lgbts are pedophiles" but I'm seeing quite a few "This is fine and your a bigot for disagreeing"

[Liriena]

Like Gwen Stefani.

Wut?

Desmond's bar performance was, apparently, a Gwen Stefani impersonation.

[Cannot think of a name]

Wut?

Desmond's bar performance was, apparently, a Gwen Stefani impersonation.

Toned down from the original if we're being honest.

[Washington Resistance Army]

All that shit should be destroyed by force too.

Ah, but your TV channels and porn websites continue to circulate it. Are you saying that they are not reflective of the heterosexual community?

(Just fyi, I'm not actually trying to own or "no u" you here. Just expanding on my previous point about Aclion's line of thought)

I don't think there is a heterosexual community, and fwiw I'm not entirely against the idea of shutting down porn sites en masse cuz that shit is wrecking young Americans.

[Fraggle Mound]

Since the last topic about the LGBTQRS+ ruling in Brazil derailed, I thought it could be interesting to talk about it here. If you don't know Desmond Napoles, he represents the future of drag.

More precisely, he's a 11 yo boy acclaimed for being a drag queen (princess?). His life is mostly made of shows in bars, being sexualized, meeting and doing vlogs with convicted abusers and learning a lot about drugs. All of that thanks to his wonderful mom who has been fascinated with drag culture since her youth. Some said it was abused, that we shouldn't let a child in such environments but it doesn't really matter because all celebrities rush to embrace this new progressive icon and was even anointed by the Mother herself, Rupaul. https://www.cnbc.com/2018/08/09/rupaul- ... erica.html

More info here: https://youtu.be/X7J-hW_GO6o

THIS is why I don't support the lgbtq+ or whatever agenda. Thank you for sharing this.

I'm pretty sure the majority of the lgbt doesn't support this..

[Des-Bal]

Toned down from the original if we're being honest.

If he was Gwen Stefanis age nobody would give a fuck.

[Liriena]

THIS is why I don't support the lgbtq+ or whatever agenda. Thank you for sharing this.

I'm pretty sure the majority of the lgbt doesn't support this..

I support him doing drag but find the whole bar dancing incident questionable, if not outright yikes-worthy. But that sort of nuance is lost on those who just want to bash "gender liberation" and accuse LGBT people of being pedos.

[Liriena]

Toned down from the original if we're being honest.

If he was Gwen Stefanis age nobody would give a fuck.

No one is Gwen Stefani's age. She is ageless.

[Aclion]

No it doesnt, because an organisation or two from a community supporting something doesnt mean everyone in that community supports it. They are not a hive mind, just because one group of people of a communtity support something doesnt mean the rest of them to simply because they are from the same community.

Imagine if we applied Aclion's logic to the seemingly endless sexual degeneracy of gender conforming heterosexuals. Soooooo many fucked up forms of heterosexual entertainment that flirt with pedophilia.

Because as we all know hetersexuals don't call out the sexualization of children, and instead defend it and attack the homosexuals who try to call it out.
Ironically my very last RMB post is attacking the sexualizion of schoolgirl uniforms in Britney Spear's One more time, so you're engaging in this whataboutism against a straw man.

When will you stop defending pedophiles?

[Liriena]

Imagine if we applied Aclion's logic to the seemingly endless sexual degeneracy of gender conforming heterosexuals. Soooooo many fucked up forms of heterosexual entertainment that flirt with pedophilia.

Because as we all know hetersexuals don't call out the sexualization of children, and instead defend it and attack out the homosexuals who try to call it out.

Yes. Lots of you heteros did it for Roy Moore. In fact, lots of heteros voted for him.

And let's not get into what heteros did and continue to do with "lolis" and child actresses. Oof.

[Galloism]

Desmond's bar performance was, apparently, a Gwen Stefani impersonation.

Toned down from the original if we're being honest.

If Gwen Stefani did that in a seedy bar with a strip club logo surrounded by drinking patrons who were handing her dollar bills I'd consider that overtly sexual too.

I just wouldn't have a problem with it because she's an adult.

[Aclion]

Because as we all know hetersexuals don't call out the sexualization of children, and instead defend it and attack out the homosexuals who try to call it out.

Yes. Lots of you heteros did it for Roy Moore. In fact, lots of heteros voted for him.

And let's not get into what heteros did and continue to do with "lolis" and child actresses. Oof.

Put that goalpost back. The standard set up for LGBT was not, "nobody agrees with it" It was "not all of us agree with it, and the that fact that our media platforms are universally celebrating it doesn't reflect on the movement as a whole" hence OUT celebrating him as the future of LGBT doesn't reflect on the LGBT movement.