Desmond Napoles or how gender 'liberation' can lead to abuse

[Torrocca]

Nah. Saying a thing people can agree with, such as, "sexploiting kids is bad," doesn't make him good.

Weren't you the one saying you can't blame the gay "community"

LGBTQ+ community, hun.

for the explotation of this child even though many support it because "we don't all support it".

Yes.

Now you're trying to employ a guilt by association on them because we all agree sexually exploiting children is wrong?

Nope. I never said the other people in this thread weren't decent for being critical of this controversy. I said Beggnig's generalization that everyone who criticized it is a decent person is a wrong generalization. Case in point.

The cognitive dissonance of the regressives never fails.

lel

[Thermodolia]

In Afghanistan man love Thursday’s are also a thing

You must have loved it there....

I definitely walked into that one

[Galloism]

Broadly.

Difference is, I also think an 11 year old girl lewdly dancing in a lesbian bar or an 11 year old boy lewdly dancing for a bunch of straight women in a bar is just as skeevy.

It would be a boy dancing for a bunch of gay men.

I think you lost the thread.

Society on 11 year olds titillating adults:

Boy lewdly dancing for gay men = skeevy
Boy lewdly dancing for straight women = probably ok
Girl lewdly dancing for straight men = skeevy
Girl lewdly dancing for lesbian women = ?

Difference is I think all four are pretty skeevy.

[Torrocca]

You... you do realize that the Nazism is also a part of their beliefs, right? Right?

Yes. But that isn't related to the subject at hand is it?

All I did was critique Beggnig's suggestion that everyone criticizing this controversy is decent. That's it.

Glad to see you're defending a Nazi's honor. I'm sure you'll give us a half-decent spiel about why you thought that was necessary, or that you'll just pretend it was ironic.

People with opinions that by and large are terrible does not preclude them from periodically having good opinions, such as "child sexual abuse is bad".

Which, funnily enough, doesn't change the fact that you're currently defending a Nazi's honor practically unprovoked.

Cuz he's the good guy in this situation lol, it's not more complicated than that.

yeah but me defending a stopped clock makes me literally hitler

Weird, I could've mistaken this website for a farm with all this straw you've brought in.

[Arayas]

Glad to see you're defending a Nazi's honor. I'm sure you'll give us a half-decent spiel about why you thought that was necessary, or that you'll just pretend it was ironic.

People with opinions that by and large are terrible does not preclude them from periodically having good opinions, such as "child sexual abuse is bad".

Cuz he's the good guy in this situation lol, it's not more complicated than that.

yeah but me defending a stopped clock makes me literally hitler

Selective guilt by association is a popular political tactic of regressives https://me.me/i/slate-slate-o-slate-slate-slate-slate-its-wrong-to-8c0445fa925545c48c26ba6dd935633d

[Thermodolia]

Dude this shit is over a year old. It was already done to death we don’t need to rehash anything and we can stop beating the dead horse

"The sexual explotation of a child happened like a year ago man chill no one cares anymore"

I see you share the same school of thought as the Rotherham city council.

No I’m just saying that this has been done to death and nobody is going to change their minds. The people who think it’s fine are going to still think it’s fine while those who think it’s not are going to still think it’s not fine.

And for the record I don’t agree with children in adult areas. I like to have my adult fun child free

[Beggnig]

On this issue, at least, they're decent.

Glad to see you're defending a Nazi's honor. I'm sure you'll give us a half-decent spiel about why you thought that was necessary, or that you'll just pretend it was ironic.

"Hey I guess this guy who is otherwise reprehensible is right on this issue... hm...."
"ARE YOU DEFENDING HIM?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

Lord have mercy.

[Arayas]

"The sexual explotation of a child happened like a year ago man chill no one cares anymore"

I see you share the same school of thought as the Rotherham city council.

No I’m just saying that this has been done to death and nobody is going to change their minds. The people who think it’s fine are going to still think it’s fine while those who think it’s not are going to still think it’s not fine.

And for the record I don’t agree with children in adult areas. I like to have ammunition adult fun child free

Well I didn't start the thread.

[Thermodolia]

No I’m just saying that this has been done to death and nobody is going to change their minds. The people who think it’s fine are going to still think it’s fine while those who think it’s not are going to still think it’s not fine.

And for the record I don’t agree with children in adult areas. I like to have ammunition adult fun child free

Well I didn't start the thread.

I didn’t say that you did. We literally had the same thread about a year ago. Honestly I did a double take to make sure someone didn’t gravedig a year old thread

[Proctopeo]

People with opinions that by and large are terrible does not preclude them from periodically having good opinions, such as "child sexual abuse is bad".

Which, funnily enough, doesn't change the fact that you're currently defending a Nazi's honor practically unprovoked.

Your attempt to shame me into becoming pro-CSA has been noted.

Cuz he's the good guy in this situation lol, it's not more complicated than that.

yeah but me defending a stopped clock makes me literally hitler

Weird, I could've mistaken this website for a farm with all this straw you've brought in.[/quote]
Your utter lack of self-awareness has also been noted.

Stop appealing to things irrelevant to the topic at hand.

[Washington Resistance Army]

Which, funnily enough, doesn't change the fact that you're currently defending a Nazi's honor practically unprovoked.

Your attempt to shame me into becoming pro-CSA has been noted.

C'mon Proct, we can oppose pedos and take our stand to live and die in Dixie.

[Proctopeo]

Your attempt to shame me into becoming pro-CSA has been noted.

C'mon Proct, we can oppose pedos and take our stand to live and die in Dixie.

I knew it was an ambiguous acronym so I was expecting this
Personally I'm firmly a Union man.

[Fartsniffage]

Your attempt to shame me into becoming pro-CSA has been noted.

C'mon Proct, we can oppose pedos and take our stand to live and die in Dixie.

I like that you accept that "the south" and Nazis are the same.

[Proctopeo]

C'mon Proct, we can oppose pedos and take our stand to live and die in Dixie.

I like that you accept that "the south" and Nazis are the same.

I see you missed that "CSA" is an acronym for both "child sexual abuse" and "Confederate States of America" and thus the joke went well over your head...

[Torrocca]

Which, funnily enough, doesn't change the fact that you're currently defending a Nazi's honor practically unprovoked.

Your attempt to shame me into becoming pro-CSA has been noted.

Oh, I see it's "the leftist thinks all bad things are Nazi" hour on the farm. I wonder why you decided to bring up the CSA unprovoked? Harboring hidden love for the Lost Cause, are you?

Weird, I could've mistaken this website for a farm with all this straw you've brought in.

Your utter lack of self-awareness has also been noted.

Weird, I don't recall ever defending a Nazi's honor without a hint of irony, but you do you with your notes, I guess.

Stop appealing to things irrelevant to the topic at hand.

Mmhmm. Back to this dredge of a topic, I suppose.

[Proctopeo]

Your attempt to shame me into becoming pro-CSA has been noted.

Oh, I see it's "the leftist thinks all bad things are Nazi" hour on the farm. I wonder why you decided to bring up the CSA unprovoked? Harboring hidden love for the Lost Cause, are you?

I can't believe two people missed the shared acronym within ten minutes. With Fartsniffage I can let it pass, given he's British. You have no excuse, however.

Weird, I don't recall ever defending a Nazi's honor without a hint of irony, but you do you with your notes, I guess.

No situational awareness either.

Stop appealing to things irrelevant to the topic at hand.

Mmhmm. Back to this dredge of a topic, I suppose.

What makes it a "dredge", by chance?

[Torrocca]

Oh, I see it's "the leftist thinks all bad things are Nazi" hour on the farm. I wonder why you decided to bring up the CSA unprovoked? Harboring hidden love for the Lost Cause, are you?

I can't believe two people missed the shared acronym within ten minutes. With Fartsniffage I can let it pass, given he's British. You have no excuse, however.

... Because CSA is usually inferred to be in reference to the Confederate States of America, and isn't usually used as shorthand for child sex abuse?

I stand by my Dixie roots in keeping CSA associated with that thing.

Weird, I don't recall ever defending a Nazi's honor without a hint of irony, but you do you with your notes, I guess.

No situational awareness either.

Whatever you say, chiefalief.

Mmhmm. Back to this dredge of a topic, I suppose.

What makes it a "dredge", by chance?

... Considering the last thread from a year ago on this shit ended in a literal dumpster fire that included several stellar accusations of pedophilia?

Lots of things.

[Washington Resistance Army]

I can't believe two people missed the shared acronym within ten minutes. With Fartsniffage I can let it pass, given he's British. You have no excuse, however.

... Because CSA is usually inferred to be in reference to the Confederate States of America, and isn't usually used as shorthand for child sex abuse?

I stand by my Dixie roots in keeping CSA associated with that thing.

Na it's a super common abbreviation of child sex abuse, especially amongst survivors and people who are passionate about ending it.

[Proctopeo]

I can't believe two people missed the shared acronym within ten minutes. With Fartsniffage I can let it pass, given he's British. You have no excuse, however.

... Because CSA is usually inferred to be in reference to the Confederate States of America, and isn't usually used as shorthand for child sex abuse?

I stand by my Dixie roots in keeping CSA associated with that thing.

In context it referring to child sexual abuse should've been obvious.

What makes it a "dredge", by chance?

... Considering the last thread from a year ago on this shit ended in a literal dumpster fire that included several stellar accusations of pedophilia?

Lots of things.

I won't otherwise comment on those accusations, but people really should be more careful when it comes to this shit... like, for example, not defending it outright.
People have sorta learned their lesson from the first time around, so at least as a community we've seen measurable progress.

[Torrocca]

... Because CSA is usually inferred to be in reference to the Confederate States of America, and isn't usually used as shorthand for child sex abuse?

I stand by my Dixie roots in keeping CSA associated with that thing.

Na it's a super common abbreviation of child sex abuse, especially amongst survivors and people who are passionate about ending it.

Huh, I must've never seen it abbreviated in reference to that before, then. The more you know.

[Scomagia]

This sounds a lot like pedophile apologism. A child should not be dancing lewdly for adults, period, regardless of the type of adult. What the fuck, dude?

No, it's letting children express themselves and have fun apologia. If Desmond genuinely likes doing drag and dancing, without anyone's pressure, manipulation or coercion, I support him. I do not, however, support anyone exploiting him, sexually or otherwise, through his hobbies. If an adult acts inappropriately towards him, that adult won't get any excuses from me.

The lewd dancing is lewd and, yeah, ideally, a child wouldn't do it, but I'd argue that the problem would ultimately lie in whether we see that dancing, however "lewd" it might seem within our worldviews, as an invitation for inappropriate expressions or behavior from adults.

Wow, I never thought I'd see someone use social constructionist horseshit to defend child erotica. This is really no different than you defending a photographer taking pictures of a little girl in her underwear with her legs splayed. Get fucking real.

[Fartsniffage]

No, it's letting children express themselves and have fun apologia. If Desmond genuinely likes doing drag and dancing, without anyone's pressure, manipulation or coercion, I support him. I do not, however, support anyone exploiting him, sexually or otherwise, through his hobbies. If an adult acts inappropriately towards him, that adult won't get any excuses from me.

The lewd dancing is lewd and, yeah, ideally, a child wouldn't do it, but I'd argue that the problem would ultimately lie in whether we see that dancing, however "lewd" it might seem within our worldviews, as an invitation for inappropriate expressions or behavior from adults.

Wow, I never thought I'd see someone use social constructionist horseshit to defend child erotica. This is really no different than you defending a photographer taking pictures of a little girl in her underwear with her legs splayed. Get fucking real.

The interesting thing here is that you see a boy dancing as erotic. Don't you get that you look pretty bad about this?

[Washington Resistance Army]

Wow, I never thought I'd see someone use social constructionist horseshit to defend child erotica. This is really no different than you defending a photographer taking pictures of a little girl in her underwear with her legs splayed. Get fucking real.

The interesting thing here is that you see a boy dancing as erotic. Don't you get that you look pretty bad about this?

A lot of people have looked bad in this thread. Sco isn't one of them.

[Jack Thomas Lang]

The interesting thing here is that you see a boy dancing as erotic. Don't you get that you look pretty bad about this?

No. I'm certain that if you took this topic to most people on the street, those who oppose it will look more sympathetic, not vice versa.

[USS Monitor]

It would be a boy dancing for a bunch of gay men.

I think you lost the thread.

Society on 11 year olds titillating adults:

Boy lewdly dancing for gay men = skeevy
Boy lewdly dancing for straight women = probably ok
Girl lewdly dancing for straight men = skeevy
Girl lewdly dancing for lesbian women = ?

Difference is I think all four are pretty skeevy.

They are all skeevy because the problem is children being paraded around as a commodity before they are old enough to understand and control what is going on.