Desmond Napoles or how gender 'liberation' can lead to abuse

[Kowani]

Well, for one thing, race is a social construct based on clumsy grouping of ethnic groups, and one is cultural with no actual basis in biology.

Clumsy grouping of ethnic groups based on physical traits. And the other is cultural and based on physical traits too.
Doesn't seem that much different to me.

How do you differentiate that?

Race is very loose, but mostly correlated to place of origin and ethnicity combined with skin pigmentation.

Such you cannot change.

Gender is a perception of yourself. Which is subject to change.

I’m just going to reiterate this, because it’s more eloquent than what I would have said.

[Leonixion]

Well, we can start off with the fact that the average person's idea of race doesn't actually exist.

How so? The average person's idea of gender doesn't actually exist too.

[Uiiop]

If the kid chose to do drag and dance lewdly of his own volition, without being groomed or coerced, then the only issue I see is that those responsible for his safety and public life have done a terrible job of curating the kind of adults he interacts with.

This sounds a lot like pedophile apologism. A child should not be dancing lewdly for adults, period, regardless of the type of adult. What the fuck, dude?

I thought the context was pretty clear he didn't mean like was that.
The video talked about Desmond talking with a murderer(sentence served but with some caveats if it matters) and showed that the association with bad people could be distinct enough from the other things.

[Kannap]

Good thing race and gender aren’t equivalent.

How do you differentiate that?

Well, typically one is by the color of one's skin and the other isn't. Admittedly, if you're blind, it would be a bit difficult.

[Leonixion]

Race is very loose, but mostly correlated to place of origin and ethnicity combined with skin pigmentation.

Such you cannot change.

Skin bleaching/tanning exists and changing your nationality too.

Gender is a perception of yourself. Which is subject to change.

No, again self-identification is bullshit.

[Leonixion]

Well, typically one is by the color of one's skin and the other isn't. Admittedly, if you're blind, it would be a bit difficult.

So albinos people are caucasian, right.

[The South Falls]

Well, we can start off with the fact that the average person's idea of race doesn't actually exist.

How so? The average person's idea of gender doesn't actually exist too.

How can an idea determined to be average not exist?

[Vassenor]

No, again self-identification is bullshit.

And you base this claim on what?

[Neutraligon]

ENOUGH!!! If you wish to discuss trans issues, then do so in the Trans discussion page, this thread is about Desmond Napoles and abuse.

[Nova Cyberia]

Novel? No. But sufficient to deal with your weak ass snark?

Absolutely.

You're "I'm not saying it's aliens, but it's aliens"-esque needle thread is not the 'have your cake and eat it too' qualification you think it is.

You're doing the same old dance and thinking 'jazz hands' makes it different. It isn't. It's hack bullshit and doesn't require anyone's "a game".

Responding to your shit doesn't really require anyone's "a game".

It's low effort.

[Leonixion]

How so? The average person's idea of gender doesn't actually exist too.

How can an idea determined to be average not exist?

Ask New haven america, they were the first to use this phrase.

[Kowani]

Race is very loose, but mostly correlated to place of origin and ethnicity combined with skin pigmentation.

Such you cannot change.

Skin bleaching/tanning exists and changing your nationality too.

Can’t really change your ancestry, and one’s nationality isn’t a “race.”

Gender is a perception of yourself. Which is subject to change.

No, again self-identification is bullshit.

Based on…?

[Leonixion]

ENOUGH!!! If you wish to discuss trans issues, then do so in the Trans discussion page, this thread is about Desmond Napoles and abuse.

What is that discussion page (link)?

[New haven america]

Well, we can start off with the fact that the average person's idea of race doesn't actually exist.

1. How so? 2. The average person's idea of gender doesn't actually exist too.

1. Race from a biological perspective is just another word for subspecies/offshoot. Humans don't have races because we killed off the last of our sibling species 40,000+ years ago. What we consider to be race nowadays was actually invented only ~500 years or so ago (And what we consider race to be is actually called a "Morph", which is a different coloration or slight physical change within the same species, think of Leopards and Panthers, which are the same species that happen to have wildly different color variations).

2. Because people don't understand the difference between gender and sex.

[Leonixion]

Based on…?

On what do you base that gender is self identification?

[Kowani]

ENOUGH!!! If you wish to discuss trans issues, then do so in the Trans discussion page, this thread is about Desmond Napoles and abuse.

What is that discussion page (link)?

viewtopic.php?f=20&t=463149

[Neutraligon]

Based on…?

On what do you base that gender is self identification?

viewtopic.php?f=20&t=463149&view=unread#unread Be aware that mods do watch that page for trolling and flaming pretty closely.

[Leonixion]

1. Race from a biological perspective is just another word for subspecies/offshoot. Human's don't have races because we killed off the last of our sibling species 40,000+ years ago. What we consider to be race nowadays was actually invented only ~500 years or so ago (What we consider race is actually called a "Morph", which is a different coloration or slight physical change within the same species, think of Leopards and Panthers, which are the same species that happen to have wildly different color variations).

2. Because people don't understand the difference between gender and sex.

1. I know. Doesn't change the fact that you can't change race even if it's shitty science.

2. Because there aren't really. Just that we call female human beings women, and male human beings men. You can be a very feminine man but you are still a man. Don't act like it's not linked.

[Leonixion]

viewtopic.php?f=20&t=463149&view=unread#unread Be aware that mods do watch that page for trolling and flaming pretty closely.

You mean disagreeing with transgenderism gets you banned? I should start another page.

[The South Falls]

Race is very loose, but mostly correlated to place of origin and ethnicity combined with skin pigmentation.

Such you cannot change.

Skin bleaching/tanning exists and changing your nationality too.

Gender is a perception of yourself. Which is subject to change.

No, again self-identification is bullshit.

You cannot change your point of origin.

Ethnicity, not nationality.

[Vassenor]

viewtopic.php?f=20&t=463149&view=unread#unread Be aware that mods do watch that page for trolling and flaming pretty closely.

You mean disagreeing with transgenderism gets you banned? I should start another page.

Believe it or not, it is possible to disagree without resorting to trolling and flaming.

[New haven america]

You mean disagreeing with transgenderism gets you banned? I should start another page.

Believe it or not, it is possible to disagree without resorting to trolling and flaming.

How does one learn this power?

[The South Falls]

viewtopic.php?f=20&t=463149&view=unread#unread Be aware that mods do watch that page for trolling and flaming pretty closely.

You mean disagreeing with transgenderism gets you banned? I should start another page.

More like, "transgender people aren't human, etc"

[Neutraligon]

viewtopic.php?f=20&t=463149&view=unread#unread Be aware that mods do watch that page for trolling and flaming pretty closely.

You mean disagreeing with transgenderism gets you banned? I should start another page.

no I mean that the page is watched carefully for trolling and flaming. You starting another thread will just get it locked as a repeat thread.

[Leonixion]

More like, "transgender people aren't human, etc"

Never said that though.