Desmond Napoles or how gender 'liberation' can lead to abuse

[New haven america]

Ah, and here we have the stray who comes in late to the thread, doesn't bother reading past a few pages, and then posts.

Aw, it's adorable that you think you've said something novel.

There are people who're actually reading this thread...?

[Vassenor]

The studies that prove your points about the immutability of gender and its determinance.

Show me first studies about race being able to change.

Why should I have to prove your non sequiturs? Stop deflecting.

[Nova Cyberia]

Ah, and here we have the stray who comes in late to the thread, doesn't bother reading past a few pages, and then posts.

Aw, it's adorable that you think you've said something novel.

Novel? No. But sufficient to deal with your weak ass snark?

Absolutely.

[New haven america]

And yet you're here repeating redirect that has been proven to be a slander campaign against LGBT people and the movement.

Yeah, sure, ok.

Ah, yes, once again everything that you don't like is slander.

NO U

[Nova Cyberia]

Ah, yes, once again everything that you don't like is slander.

NO U

Anything else? I'm having a good laugh so feel free to keep it coming.

[Kannap]

Aw, it's adorable that you think you've said something novel.

There are people who're actually reading this thread...?

It's a rough job, but somebody's gotta do it.

[Cannot think of a name]

Aw, it's adorable that you think you've said something novel.

Novel? No. But sufficient to deal with your weak ass snark?

Absolutely.

You're "I'm not saying it's aliens, but it's aliens"-esque needle thread is not the 'have your cake and eat it too' qualification you think it is.

You're doing the same old dance and thinking 'jazz hands' makes it different. It isn't. It's hack bullshit and doesn't require anyone's "a game".

[Neutraligon]

The studies that prove your points about the immutability of gender and its determinance.

Show me first studies about race being able to change.

I believe that this belongs in a separate thread.

[Uiiop]

I said they've been trying to weasel into the movement. I did not say they were successful.

For the 79th time, I'm not blaming the entire LGBT movement.

And yet you're here repeating redirect that has been proven to be a slander campaign against LGBT people and the movement.

Yeah, sure, ok.

It was an exaggeration based on failed attempts. That's all they're saying.
Their assertions that this shit actually impacted anything are still unfounded of course. If Kevin Spacey's stupidity didn't amount to anything i'm not sure something this unclear will.
Actual damage to reputation can be polled and measured. And yet only assertions and anecdotal are brought up.

[Kowani]

The studies that prove your points about the immutability of gender and its determinance.

Show me first studies about race being able to change.

Good thing race and gender aren’t equivalent.

[Scomagia]

If the kid chose to do drag and dance lewdly of his own volition, without being groomed or coerced, then the only issue I see is that those responsible for his safety and public life have done a terrible job of curating the kind of adults he interacts with.

This sounds a lot like pedophile apologism. A child should not be dancing lewdly for adults, period, regardless of the type of adult. What the fuck, dude?

[The South Falls]

Because pedophiles have been trying to weasel their way into the LGBT movement for quite some time. Now people read news article about a kid shaking his ass on stage and it seems to primarily be LGBT people and leftists who defend him.

That's why.

No, people have been trying to equate pedophiles with LGBT for quite some time now to the point that people buy into that association without thinking about it.

There's even a movie in the 60s talking about avoiding homosexual pedophiles.

[Leonixion]

Why should I have to prove your non sequiturs? Stop deflecting.

Do I really have to prove that people with functional penises and testis are not men?

[Leonixion]

Good thing race and gender aren’t equivalent.

How do you differentiate that?

[New haven america]

Why should I have to prove your non sequiturs? Stop deflecting.

Do I really have to prove that people with functional penises and testis are not men?

Yes, considering intersex people exist.

[Vassenor]

Why should I have to prove your non sequiturs? Stop deflecting.

Do I really have to prove that people with functional penises and testis are not men?

So you have no evidence in support of your claims. Got it.

[The South Falls]

Why should I have to prove your non sequiturs? Stop deflecting.

Do I really have to prove that people with functional penises and testis are not men?

Are we going to start the debate over Vass' genital functionality?

[Kowani]

Good thing race and gender aren’t equivalent.

How do you differentiate that?

Well, for one thing, race is a social construct based on clumsy grouping of ethnic groups, and one is cultural with no actual basis in biology.

[Fartsniffage]

If the kid chose to do drag and dance lewdly of his own volition, without being groomed or coerced, then the only issue I see is that those responsible for his safety and public life have done a terrible job of curating the kind of adults he interacts with.

This sounds a lot like pedophile apologism. A child should not be dancing lewdly for adults, period, regardless of the type of adult. What the fuck, dude?

That's probably quite a hard line to define though. I assume you'd be with me on banning child beauty pageants, but what about ballet recitals? All that bending and doing the splits in revealing clothing, an argument for it being lewd could easily be made.

[Leonixion]

So you have no evidence in support of your claims. Got it.

What is your evidence for you being an actual woman? Long hair? Fake breasts? Make up? Dresses?

[New haven america]

Good thing race and gender aren’t equivalent.

How do you differentiate that?

Well, we can start off with the fact that the average person's idea of race doesn't actually exist.

[Neutraligon]

This sounds a lot like pedophile apologism. A child should not be dancing lewdly for adults, period, regardless of the type of adult. What the fuck, dude?

That's probably quite a hard line to define though. I assume you'd be with me on banning child beauty pageants, but what about ballet recitals? All that bending and doing the splits in revealing clothing, an argument for it being lewd could easily be made.

What about gymnastics, which people tend to start young, or swimming? Both of which tend to have revealing clothing.

[Neutraligon]

So you have no evidence in support of your claims. Got it.

What is your evidence for you being an actual woman? Long hair? Fake breasts? Make up? Dresses?

This belongs in the trans thread, not here.

[Leonixion]

Well, for one thing, race is a social construct based on clumsy grouping of ethnic groups, and one is cultural with no actual basis in biology.

Clumsy grouping of ethnic groups based on physical traits. And the other is cultural and based on physical traits too.
Doesn't seem that much different to me.

[The South Falls]

Good thing race and gender aren’t equivalent.

How do you differentiate that?

Race is very loose, but mostly correlated to place of origin and ethnicity combined with skin pigmentation.

Such you cannot change.

Gender is a perception of yourself. Which is subject to change.