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Postby Nova Cyberia » Tue May 28, 2019 11:48 am

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Scomagia wrote:Sorry sugar, that's inaccurate. He and most else in this thread with enough sense to be disturbed by this exploitation has said it would be wrong in any bar, gay or straight. See, some of us have a problem with kids doing adult things in adult places surrounded by adults. Try as you might, no one is falling for your "covert homophobia!" bullshit as a defense for what is being done to this boy.

It's a fucking No Doubt song. Those pearls don't turn to diamonds if you clutch them hard enough.

Do you... have an actual argument?

Nope. Pedo apologists rarely do. They just tap dance around the stage pretending they're totally not doing what they're obviously doing.
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Postby Fartsniffage » Tue May 28, 2019 11:49 am

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Fartsniffage wrote:Given some of the attitudes in this thread this video is going to blow your minds...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-u5WLJ9Yk4

https://youtu.be/ir8BO4-7DkM

Not taken down either.


I heard quite a lot of "woooo-ing" from that audience, must all be pedos.

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Postby Caracasus » Tue May 28, 2019 11:50 am

Wasn't there already a trainwreck of a thread on this? Have there actually been any developments in this deeply thrilling saga or is everyone just banging on the same point they did last time?
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Postby Radfems Inc » Tue May 28, 2019 11:50 am

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Fartsniffage wrote:Given some of the attitudes in this thread this video is going to blow your minds...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-u5WLJ9Yk4

https://youtu.be/ir8BO4-7DkM

Not taken down either.

That's shocking. Misogyny like this should be considered a hate crime.
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Tue May 28, 2019 11:51 am

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Cannot think of a name wrote:Ah yes, I remember the mass accusations of pedophilia when Tiffany began performing...

So, your argument against posters in this thread is that they didn't express outrage in a thread that didn't exist?

It was an 'if/then' statement. The if happened, the then didn't. The 'if' happens a lot, the 'then' not as often.
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Postby Scomagia » Tue May 28, 2019 11:51 am

Cannot think of a name wrote:
Scomagia wrote:Sorry sugar, that's inaccurate. He and most else in this thread with enough sense to be disturbed by this exploitation has said it would be wrong in any bar, gay or straight. See, some of us have a problem with kids doing adult things in adult places surrounded by adults. Try as you might, no one is falling for your "covert homophobia!" bullshit as a defense for what is being done to this boy.

It's a fucking No Doubt song. Those pearls don't turn to diamonds if you clutch them hard enough.

And this doesn't become innocent just because you want it to be. Children should not be dancing in bars. That this has to be explained to you is very concerning.
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Postby Nova Cyberia » Tue May 28, 2019 11:51 am

Radfems Inc wrote:
Gormwood wrote:https://youtu.be/ir8BO4-7DkM

Not taken down either.

That's shocking. Misogyny like this should be considered a hate crime.

Man, this is fun. I really do hope they make this the next TET.
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Postby Gormwood » Tue May 28, 2019 11:51 am

Caracasus wrote:Wasn't there already a trainwreck of a thread on this? Have there actually been any developments in this deeply thrilling saga or is everyone just banging on the same point they did last time?

This reboot was from a DEATed troll.
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Tue May 28, 2019 11:51 am

Caracasus wrote:Wasn't there already a trainwreck of a thread on this? Have there actually been any developments in this deeply thrilling saga or is everyone just banging on the same point they did last time?

The latter.
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Postby Nova Cyberia » Tue May 28, 2019 11:52 am

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Cannot think of a name wrote:It's a fucking No Doubt song. Those pearls don't turn to diamonds if you clutch them hard enough.

And this doesn't become innocent just because you want it to be. Children should not be dancing in bars. That this has to be explained to you is very concerning.

It has to be explained to a lot of people in this thread.

The fact that NSG attracts this crowd is rather interesting.
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Postby USS Monitor » Tue May 28, 2019 11:52 am

It's drag, not stripping. It's a bit exploitative and skeevy to have a child dancing in bars professionally, but let's not exaggerate.
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Postby Blueflarst » Tue May 28, 2019 11:53 am

Neutraligon wrote:
Leonixion wrote:On what do you base that gender is self identification?

viewtopic.php?f=20&t=463149&view=unread#unread Be aware that mods do watch that page for trolling and flaming pretty closely.

I revised the thread and i discovered he was just banned one day after the last post with nothing worth of ban. Better you have an explanation to the players to explain this abuse or i will do a formal protest to the administration
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Postby Caracasus » Tue May 28, 2019 11:53 am

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Caracasus wrote:Wasn't there already a trainwreck of a thread on this? Have there actually been any developments in this deeply thrilling saga or is everyone just banging on the same point they did last time?

The latter.


Fucks sake, so if its frkm a Deat troll and everyone's going over the same bollocks, why isn't it locked?
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Postby Scomagia » Tue May 28, 2019 11:53 am

USS Monitor wrote:It's drag, not stripping. It's a bit exploitative and skeevy to have a child dancing in bars professionally, but let's not exaggerate.

Yeah, just a "bit". :roll:
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Postby Aclion » Tue May 28, 2019 11:53 am

Gormwood wrote:snip

Not taken down either.

Was wondering how long it would be before someone posted CP in this thread.

USS Monitor wrote:It's drag, not stripping. It's a bit exploitative and skeevy to have a child dancing in bars professionally, but let's not exaggerate.

Literally stripping off clothes on stage.
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Tue May 28, 2019 11:54 am

Nova Cyberia wrote:
Cannot think of a name wrote:It's a fucking No Doubt song. Those pearls don't turn to diamonds if you clutch them hard enough.

Do you... have an actual argument?

Nope. Pedo apologists rarely do. They just tap dance around the stage pretending they're totally not doing what they're obviously doing.

Trying to shame isn't an argument, dude. Trying to slander me isn't one either.
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Postby Kowani » Tue May 28, 2019 11:55 am

Caracasus wrote:
Cannot think of a name wrote:The latter.


Fucks sake, so if its frkm a Deat troll and everyone's going over the same bollocks, why isn't it locked?

Because fuck NSG, that’s why.
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Postby Nova Cyberia » Tue May 28, 2019 11:55 am

Cannot think of a name wrote:
Nova Cyberia wrote:Do you... have an actual argument?

Nope. Pedo apologists rarely do. They just tap dance around the stage pretending they're totally not doing what they're obviously doing.

Trying to shame isn't an argument, dude. Trying to slander me isn't one either.

Pointing out that you have no problem with a kid shaking his ass for men in a bar isn't really slander.
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Postby Neutraligon » Tue May 28, 2019 11:55 am

Blueflarst wrote:
Neutraligon wrote:viewtopic.php?f=20&t=463149&view=unread#unread Be aware that mods do watch that page for trolling and flaming pretty closely.

I revised the thread and i discovered he was just banned one day after the last post with nothing worth of ban. Better you have an explanation to the players to explain this abuse

First this is stuff that would normally get dealt with in moderation, not in general. Second we do not take third party appeals.


You know what, I am locking this thread so people can cool down and not flame/bait other posters, because that is where we are heading.
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Tue May 28, 2019 11:55 am

Caracasus wrote:
Cannot think of a name wrote:The latter.


Fucks sake, so if its frkm a Deat troll and everyone's going over the same bollocks, why isn't it locked?

They haven't reached the stage where they actively try to slander posters in their sigs yet. We're getting there.
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Postby Nova Cyberia » Tue May 28, 2019 11:55 am

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USS Monitor wrote:It's drag, not stripping. It's a bit exploitative and skeevy to have a child dancing in bars professionally, but let's not exaggerate.

Yeah, just a "bit". :roll:

Just a wee bit.
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Postby Gormwood » Tue May 28, 2019 11:56 am

Blueflarst wrote:
Neutraligon wrote:viewtopic.php?f=20&t=463149&view=unread#unread Be aware that mods do watch that page for trolling and flaming pretty closely.

I revised the thread and i discovered he was just banned one day after the last post with nothing worth of ban. Better you have an explanation to the players to explain this abuse

He was banned for deliberately trolling in the Brazil LGBT thread first, only to pop back on continuing to troll LGBTs including this dumpster fire.

viewtopic.php?f=20&t=465200&p=35743624#p35743624
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Postby USS Monitor » Tue May 28, 2019 12:04 pm

Nova Cyberia wrote:The fact that NSG attracts this crowd is rather interesting.


You should have been here in 2010. We used to allow debates on stuff like "Should the age of consent be abolished?" but people were making too many, and eventually the mods of the day shut them down. (This was before my time as a mod.)
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Postby Blueflarst » Tue May 28, 2019 12:07 pm

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Nova Cyberia wrote:The fact that NSG attracts this crowd is rather interesting.


You should have been here in 2010. We used to allow debates on stuff like "Should the age of consent be abolished?" but people were making too many, and eventually the mods of the day shut them down. (This was before my time as a mod.)

I am glad you unlocked this thread it was not my intention to ruin it. I only wanted to comment about the second case i see abuse for franhamia as moderator in this case he banned someone for saying an opinion
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Postby Nova Cyberia » Tue May 28, 2019 12:07 pm

Gormwood wrote:
Blueflarst wrote:I revised the thread and i discovered he was just banned one day after the last post with nothing worth of ban. Better you have an explanation to the players to explain this abuse

He was banned for deliberately trolling in the Brazil LGBT thread first, only to pop back on continuing to troll LGBTs including this dumpster fire.

viewtopic.php?f=20&t=465200&p=35743624#p35743624

And your first instinct is to defend this kid and his parents like the troll wants.

Good job.
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