Desmond Napoles or how gender 'liberation' can lead to abuse

[Torrocca]

ITT: People surprised that decent people won't just sit around and let kids be sexualised and accept it as 'normal'.

>Decent people
>Among those lambasting this being a literal Fascist with the Nazi political slogan "blood and honor" for their avatar
>"Decent"

[X] to doubt.

[Fartsniffage]

I'm not.

Kids do what kids do, often without understanding what they're doing. Kids go to the beach wearing speedos or bikinis and frolic in front of adults but we don't get upset about that.

If the kid enjoys what he does then I'm kinda okay with it. Just as long as he's been taught that shaking his ass on the stage is his performance but anyone asking him to do the same off the stage or touching him off the stage is a bad touch and he needs to find an adult he trusts.

To do otherwise is to shut down so many kids activities it's untrue. Afterall, this kid hasn't been sexually assaulted as far as we know. US gymnastics on the other hand....

I mean, I don't see what law is being broken, but I am distinctly uncomfortable with it just as I would be a little girl dancing lewdly in front of a bunch of lesbians.

There's something different between frolicking on the beach which some people may find titillating and lewdly shaking your ass on stage with the purpose of titillation. Even if the child doesn't understand, his parents do.

You've clearly never been to a modern dance recital. 2 of my cousins are dancers, I saw them shaking their money makers on stage while they were both very young. The audience were adults, including myself. It's a thing. And no one complains about it.

The only difference here is that this kid was dressed in drag and people are uncomfortable that the audience are gay men. And that is fucked up.

[Torrocca]

This shit's so fucking rotten that it clawed its way out of a grave and began moaning for brains.

Quit burying it then.

How many times do LGBTQ+ people have to say it's bad before it meets your arbitrary quota for it to be buried?

I'll assume you haven't come up with an arbitrary limit, because the only "good" reason this controversy's kept alive is so that homophobes and the like can get a rise out of undeservedly shitting on us dastardly gays for this single incident.

[Thermodolia]

Don't forget the lewd dancing part.

In Afghanistan they call it Bacha bazi.

In Afghanistan man love Thursday’s are also a thing

[Beggnig]

ITT: People surprised that decent people won't just sit around and let kids be sexualised and accept it as 'normal'.

>Decent people
>Among those lambasting this being a literal Fascist with the Nazi political slogan "blood and honor" for their avatar
>"Decent"

[X] to doubt.

Even Evil Has Standards!

[Fartsniffage]

In Afghanistan they call it Bacha bazi.

In Afghanistan man love Thursday’s are also a thing

You must have loved it there....

[Washington Resistance Army]

ITT: People surprised that decent people won't just sit around and let kids be sexualised and accept it as 'normal'.

>Decent people
>Among those lambasting this being a literal Fascist with the Nazi political slogan "blood and honor" for their avatar
>"Decent"

[X] to doubt.

We really are on some clown world shit when the unironic Nazi is the good guy

[Torrocca]

>Decent people
>Among those lambasting this being a literal Fascist with the Nazi political slogan "blood and honor" for their avatar
>"Decent"

[X] to doubt.

We really are on some clown world shit when the unironic Nazi is the good guy

Nah, it just happens that Beggnig's sweeping generalization - that everyone who criticizes this controversy is a decent person - is wrong. Waaay wrong.

[Loben The 2nd]

Don't forget the lewd dancing part.

In Afghanistan they call it Bacha bazi.

Ah yes, Afghanistan, truly a progressive paradise.

[Galloism]

I mean, I don't see what law is being broken, but I am distinctly uncomfortable with it just as I would be a little girl dancing lewdly in front of a bunch of lesbians.

There's something different between frolicking on the beach which some people may find titillating and lewdly shaking your ass on stage with the purpose of titillation. Even if the child doesn't understand, his parents do.

You've clearly never been to a modern dance recital. 2 of my cousins are dancers, I saw them shaking their money makers on stage while they were both very young. The audience were adults, including myself. It's a thing. And no one complains about it.

The only difference here is that this kid was dressed in drag and people are uncomfortable that the audience are gay men. And that is fucked up.

I'm sure an 11 year old girl dancing in a bar with straight men would receive a similar result.

To your point about a lesbian bar, that is less likely to draw such a result for the same reason a young boy dancing lewdly in a bar surrounded by straight women would. Namely, we, as a society, broadly view women as above such things (they're not).

It's basically why we (broadly) refer to female teachers "having sex" with children, while male teachers rape them. A few exceptions exist either way, but it's a trend.

The difference in treatment is about the gender of the audience more than the boy.

[Proctopeo]

ITT: People surprised that decent people won't just sit around and let kids be sexualised and accept it as 'normal'.

>Decent people
>Among those lambasting this being a literal Fascist with the Nazi political slogan "blood and honor" for their avatar
>"Decent"

[X] to doubt.

On this issue, at least, they're decent.

[Arayas]

Quit burying it then.

Dude this shit is over a year old. It was already done to death we don’t need to rehash anything and we can stop beating the dead horse

"The sexual explotation of a child happened like a year ago man chill no one cares anymore"

I see you share the same school of thought as the Rotherham city council.

[Torrocca]

>Decent people
>Among those lambasting this being a literal Fascist with the Nazi political slogan "blood and honor" for their avatar
>"Decent"

[X] to doubt.

On this issue, at least, they're decent.

Glad to see you're defending a Nazi's honor. I'm sure you'll give us a half-decent spiel about why you thought that was necessary, or that you'll just pretend it was ironic.

[Loben The 2nd]

On this issue, at least, they're decent.

Glad to see you're defending a Nazi's honor. I'm sure you'll give us a half-decent spiel about why you thought that was necessary, or that you'll just pretend it was ironic.

Maybe in this instant the nazi has an agreeable and not horrible opinion?

[Washington Resistance Army]

On this issue, at least, they're decent.

Glad to see you're defending a Nazi's honor. I'm sure you'll give us a half-decent spiel about why you thought that was necessary, or that you'll just pretend it was ironic.

Cuz he's the good guy in this situation lol, it's not more complicated than that.

[Fartsniffage]

You've clearly never been to a modern dance recital. 2 of my cousins are dancers, I saw them shaking their money makers on stage while they were both very young. The audience were adults, including myself. It's a thing. And no one complains about it.

The only difference here is that this kid was dressed in drag and people are uncomfortable that the audience are gay men. And that is fucked up.

I'm sure an 11 year old girl dancing in a bar with straight men would receive a similar result.

To your point about a lesbian bar, that is less likely to draw such a result for the same reason a young boy dancing lewdly in a bar surrounded by straight women would. Namely, we, as a society, broadly view women as above such things (they're not).

It's basically why we (broadly) refer to female teachers "having sex" with children, while male teachers rape them. A few exceptions exist either way, but it's a trend.

The difference in treatment is about the gender of the audience more than the boy.

So you agree with me. That's nice.

[Torrocca]

Glad to see you're defending a Nazi's honor. I'm sure you'll give us a half-decent spiel about why you thought that was necessary, or that you'll just pretend it was ironic.

Cuz he's the good guy in this situation lol, it's not more complicated than that.

Nah. Saying a thing people can agree with, such as, "sexploiting kids is bad," doesn't make him good.

[Telconi]

Cuz he's the good guy in this situation lol, it's not more complicated than that.

Nah. Saying a thing people can agree with, such as, "sexploiting kids is bad," doesn't make him good.

So what makes a person good if not their beliefs?

[Fartsniffage]

Nah. Saying a thing people can agree with, such as, "sexploiting kids is bad," doesn't make him good.

So what makes a person good if not their beliefs?

Their actions. Duh.

[Galloism]

I'm sure an 11 year old girl dancing in a bar with straight men would receive a similar result.

To your point about a lesbian bar, that is less likely to draw such a result for the same reason a young boy dancing lewdly in a bar surrounded by straight women would. Namely, we, as a society, broadly view women as above such things (they're not).

It's basically why we (broadly) refer to female teachers "having sex" with children, while male teachers rape them. A few exceptions exist either way, but it's a trend.

The difference in treatment is about the gender of the audience more than the boy.

So you agree with me. That's nice.

Broadly.

Difference is, I also think an 11 year old girl lewdly dancing in a lesbian bar or an 11 year old boy lewdly dancing for a bunch of straight women in a bar is just as skeevy.

[Torrocca]

Nah. Saying a thing people can agree with, such as, "sexploiting kids is bad," doesn't make him good.

So what makes a person good if not their beliefs?

You... you do realize that the Nazism is also a part of their beliefs, right? Right?

[Arayas]

Cuz he's the good guy in this situation lol, it's not more complicated than that.

Nah. Saying a thing people can agree with, such as, "sexploiting kids is bad," doesn't make him good.

Weren't you the one saying you can't blame the gay "community" for the explotation of this child even though many support it because "we don't all support it".

Now you're trying to employ a guilt by association on them because we all agree sexually exploiting children is wrong?

The cognitive dissonance of the regressives never fails.

[Telconi]

So what makes a person good if not their beliefs?

You... you do realize that the Nazism is also a part of their beliefs, right? Right?

Yes. But that isn't related to the subject at hand is it?

[Proctopeo]

On this issue, at least, they're decent.

Glad to see you're defending a Nazi's honor. I'm sure you'll give us a half-decent spiel about why you thought that was necessary, or that you'll just pretend it was ironic.

People with opinions that by and large are terrible does not preclude them from periodically having good opinions, such as "child sexual abuse is bad".

Glad to see you're defending a Nazi's honor. I'm sure you'll give us a half-decent spiel about why you thought that was necessary, or that you'll just pretend it was ironic.

Cuz he's the good guy in this situation lol, it's not more complicated than that.

yeah but me defending a stopped clock makes me literally hitler

[Fartsniffage]

So you agree with me. That's nice.

Broadly.

Difference is, I also think an 11 year old girl lewdly dancing in a lesbian bar or an 11 year old boy lewdly dancing for a bunch of straight women in a bar is just as skeevy.

It would be a boy dancing for a bunch of gay men.