Desmond Napoles or how gender 'liberation' can lead to abuse

[Leonixion]

Since the last topic about the LGBTQRS+ ruling in Brazil derailed, I thought it could be interesting to talk about it here. If you don't know Desmond Napoles, he represents the future of drag.

More precisely, he's a 11 yo boy acclaimed for being a drag queen (princess?). His life is mostly made of shows in bars, being sexualized, meeting and doing vlogs with convicted abusers and learning a lot about drugs. All of that thanks to his wonderful mom who has been fascinated with drag culture since her youth. Some said it's abuse, that we shouldn't let a child in such environments but it doesn't really matter because celebrities rush to embrace this new progressive icon and was even anointed by the Mother herself, Rupaul.
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/08/09/rupaul- ... erica.html

On a more serious note, it's all but surprising that another new societal movement (gender liberation) is being used by abusers and is protected by PC culture.

More info here: https://youtu.be/X7J-hW_GO6o

[Communist Zombie Horde]

Since the last topic about the LGBTQRS+ ruling in Brazil derailed, I thought it could be interesting to talk about it here. If you don't know Desmond Napoles, he represents the future of drag.

More precisely, he's a 11 yo boy acclaimed for being a drag queen (princess?). His life is mostly made of shows in bars, being sexualized, meeting and doing vlogs with convicted abusers and learning a lot about drugs. All of that thanks to his wonderful mom who has been fascinated with drag culture since her youth. Some said it was abused, that we shouldn't let a child in such environments but it doesn't really matter because all celebrities rush to embrace this new progressive icon and was even anointed by the Mother herself, Rupaul. https://www.cnbc.com/2018/08/09/rupaul- ... erica.html

More info here: https://youtu.be/X7J-hW_GO6o

THIS is why I don't support the lgbtq+ or whatever agenda. Thank you for sharing this.

[Kowani]

We already had this thread.

[Arcturus Novus]

The LGBT community doesn't unilaterally support or condemn anything, we aren't a monolith. That said, just because a number of prominent people are okay with a kid dressing provocatively and dancing in bars, doesn't mean that everyone is. The kid's mom shouldn't be exploiting him like this.

[Vassenor]

The LGBT community doesn't unilaterally support or condemn anything, we aren't a monolith. That said, just because a number of prominent people are okay with a kid dressing provocatively and dancing in bars, doesn't mean that everyone is. The kid's mom shouldn't be exploiting him like this.

But it's good for the narrative to pretend otherwise.

[Leonixion]

But it's good for the narrative to pretend otherwise.

And it's good to act like things like that would never happen for your narrative.

[Arcturus Novus]

But it's good for the narrative to pretend otherwise.

And it's good to act like things like that would never happen for your narrative.

No one is pretending like this isn't happening, though. A lot of us also acknowledge that it's pretty fucked. I don't see what your point is.

[Leonixion]

No one is pretending like this isn't happening, though. A lot of us also acknowledge that it's pretty fucked. I don't see what your point is.

That not all social justice wars are worth fighting in.

[Loben The 2nd]

And it's good to act like things like that would never happen for your narrative.

No one is pretending like this isn't happening, though. A lot of us also acknowledge that it's pretty fucked. I don't see what your point is.

Seems like that this should be a topic for greater discussion buttttt

[Grenartia]

Didn't we already have a shitshow of a thread on this?

[Leonixion]

Didn't we already have a shitshow of a thread on this?

Don't know. But it's worth noting that "gender liberation" only achieved that and transgenderism.

[Arcturus Novus]

No one is pretending like this isn't happening, though. A lot of us also acknowledge that it's pretty fucked. I don't see what your point is.

Seems like that this should be a topic for greater discussion buttttt

What more would you like me to say on this? A lot of people, LGBT or otherwise, think the Desmond Napoles situation is not good and we disagree with what his mom is doing. Would you like me to write a thesis on this?

[Proctopeo]

Didn't we already have a shitshow of a thread on this?

Yes, we did. The common consensus was that it's fucked, though some differed, for reasons still unknown.

Anyway, this is fucked through and through and definitely counts as abuse.

[Grenartia]

Didn't we already have a shitshow of a thread on this?

Don't know. But it's worth noting that "gender liberation" only achieved that and transgenderism.

lolwut

[Leonixion]

lolwut

Name another thing the "men should be able to be women and women, men" logic achieved.

[Liriena]

If the kid chose to do drag and dance lewdly of his own volition, without being groomed or coerced, then the only issue I see is that those responsible for his safety and public life have done a terrible job of curating the kind of adults he interacts with.

[Vassenor]

lolwut

Name another thing the "men should be able to be women and women, men" logic achieved.

You're really greasing up that slope, aren't you?

[Arcturus Novus]

Didn't we already have a shitshow of a thread on this?

Don't know. But it's worth noting that "gender liberation" only achieved that and transgenderism.

Being trans isn't a bad thing but okay.

[Liriena]

lolwut

Name another thing the "men should be able to be women and women, men" logic achieved.

...what do you thing it's supposed to achieve? Cure cancer?

[Leonixion]

If the kid chose to do drag and dance lewdly of his own volition, without being groomed or coerced, then the only issue I see is that those responsible for his safety and public life have done a terrible job of curating the kind of adults he interacts with.

No child dances in a bar or do drag in public without being coerced. Watch the video linked at the bottom of the OP if you want more information on this f*ckery.

[Bienenhalde]

Didn't we already have a shitshow of a thread on this?

Don't know. But it's worth noting that "gender liberation" only achieved that and transgenderism.

Most transgender people disapprove of pedophilia, or more precisely the exploitation of children to satisfy pedophilic desires.

[Telconi]

If the kid chose to do drag and dance lewdly of his own volition, without being groomed or coerced, then the only issue I see is that those responsible for his safety and public life have done a terrible job of curating the kind of adults he interacts with.

The entire foundational logic behind children's inability to consent is based upon this being functionally impossible.

[Uiiop]

The LGBT community doesn't unilaterally support or condemn anything, we aren't a monolith. That said, just because a number of prominent people are okay with a kid dressing provocatively and dancing in bars, doesn't mean that everyone is. The kid's mom shouldn't be exploiting him like this.

I'm not so sure the activities in themselves are quite exploitative per se. At least in intention. This can just be pinned on weird and stupid druggie parents raising a weird kid rather than them forcing him to be that way.

This isn't to say that something can't be a foot but it could also just be a weird kid from a weird fam who wants to look like gwen stefani.


Or there is a problem but "only" because the family are all drug abusers. Which is pretty bad(Hence the marks) but is a distinct can of worms than OP and the video's speculation.

[Vassenor]

Don't know. But it's worth noting that "gender liberation" only achieved that and transgenderism.

Most transgender people disapprove of pedophilia, or more precisely the exploitation of children to satisfy pedophilic desires.

But that's inconvenient for the narrative.

[Leonixion]

Being trans isn't a bad thing but okay.

Yes, it is. Claiming and validating this kind of thing is probably the stupidest thing we did as a society these last 5-10 years.