A Jail Time Scenario

[Upper Secundus]

If we are following the code of established cinematic law, then wouldn't it stand to reason that some crazed disciple would break me out of the glass box?

[Bloodshade]

Ahem

But yeah, if I suddenly became a mass murder, I wouldn't be the same person that I currently am right now.

Anyways, I'd probably be fine in prison and even if I'm not, why should I be surprised? Don't do the crime if you can't do the time. I'm sure 'mass-murderer' me would also agree with that statement.

[Diopolis]

General population, and establish a reputation as a Crazy Violent Guy- the other prisoners won't mess with you anymore after that.
Y'know, bite people at random. Refuse to wear clothes. Speak only Korean for a week. Masturbate in public. Talk to the bars on my cell. If you're too unpredictable to mess with, no one will mess with you. Or I could be sent to psychiatric, but IM said we'd never get out, and I assume that includes medical?

[Sougra]

Option 1. Being in a glass box for the rest of my life would be torture, so while I may die in the first scenario, I would rather that. That, and if this is me independent of the situation, I could repent either way, but this is the only option in which I can help people.

[DeltaSource]

I would be fine in the glass box, I wouldn't mind isolation, i do that on a daily basis

[Erythrean Thebes]

Life's not like that. You don't get to make those choices, they're set in stone by life's destiny. The would-be magical freedom fighter has to face oppression and hardship (Option 1) after their time of resistance. That's their destiny. Their journey of life is not done, and the story is not complete

[Infected Mushroom]

Is this a metaphor for something and, if so, what for?

In any case, there's a lot of information missing in the second hypothetical example. Like, how large is the glass box? What's the state of modern technology? Can I get a phone? Will I be able to have some entertainment? Can I request for some books and stuff? No visitors are allowed, sure, but that doesn't bar all communications, does it?

The Glass Box is a large transparent self contained facility roughly the size of a 1 person small hotel room

There is a bed, a desk, a chair, a television screen (only the staff can turn it on from the outside and it only plays boring propaganda to try to get you to repent)

There is a private toilet facility inside (not no bathtub or hot water)

Special privileges like the occasional “book” might be earned

Once you are inside, you are never leaving (the staff may beat you if you make an attempt to escape)

...

There is literally no connection with the outside world. No phone calls ever and no visitors ever.

The exception is prison approved visits of an impersonal nature like a psychiatrist or a journalist trying to get inside your head for pro-government purposes

The food is delivered into the room and is of the same terrible quality as what you have outside

...

Does this clarification help????

[Infected Mushroom]

Normally, yes. But since this is a universe that conforms to cinematic laws, you know that all of the magic users are going to be released, and their powers restored, sometime in the third act.

But if were following cinematic laws then you and the other magic users will rampage and defeat everything in your way somehow and then when it looks like the magic users are about to win and take over the word the hero's will pull something out of their arse and save the day and place you back in prison and putting you back at square one.

You’re more of a filler villain before a greater story arc

Your role in this hypothetical universe is much less then central

[Infected Mushroom]

Ahem

But yeah, if I suddenly became a mass murder, I wouldn't be the same person that I currently am right now.

Anyways, I'd probably be fine in prison and even if I'm not, why should I be surprised? Don't do the crime if you can't do the time. I'm sure 'mass-murderer' me would also agree with that statement.

But why would they agree with the statement?

Wouldn’t they want to get out?

[Kuominwave]

Option 2 because introvert.

[Infected Mushroom]

Ignoring the fact this is totally out-of-character for me...

I was under the general impression that mass-murderers are exactly the kind of people you'd want to avoid in prison. Like, they're on the "Oh him? Yeah don't fuck with him, man. Shit ain't worth it. Dude's a real psycho." list.

Yes but magical mass murderers are another story

You can be recognized physically (because all those with magical blood have pale features, large bright eyes, and a distinctively elvish/pixie-ish look, just like the Witch Queen depiction from the previous thread) so you are a visible minority.

Many of them, especially since they are non magic criminals, are raised and participated in a culture of violence where its okay/encouraged to pick on magic users. Remember, in this timeline Holstadt lost the war (what followed was a global consolidation of the old order and the Church, and subsequently increased worldwide oppression against magic users)

The majority of magic users have poor/little control over their magic and/or have very very little magic to begin with. Hence these criminals are used to the idea of participating in pogroms against unfortunate magic users.

You were gifted, but being stripped of magic, they will now assume that your an easy target unable to defend yourself.

If you go with Option 1, you better be really good at making friends. Or your longevity may be in question.

[Linderman]

Pretty close poll

For me it’s option 2

Don’t want to get abused by other prisoners

[Great Algerstonia]

General population it is! I could make friends with the inmates, and start unrest in the prison, and eventually a riot and helping everyone break out of prison.

[Infected Mushroom]

General population it is! I could make friends with the inmates, and start unrest in the prison, and eventually a riot and helping everyone break out of prison.

I see

Are you a very social person irl?

You’re not worried about the scary prisoners/inmates and the discrimination?

[Infected Mushroom]

General population, and establish a reputation as a Crazy Violent Guy- the other prisoners won't mess with you anymore after that.
Y'know, bite people at random. Refuse to wear clothes. Speak only Korean for a week. Masturbate in public. Talk to the bars on my cell. If you're too unpredictable to mess with, no one will mess with you. Or I could be sent to psychiatric, but IM said we'd never get out, and I assume that includes medical?

sometimes this can backfire

for instance, what if the prison gangs notice you because of your "toughness" and then basically try to force you to join them (which then gets you involved in pointless stabbings missions back and forth)?

[Heloin]

General population, and establish a reputation as a Crazy Violent Guy- the other prisoners won't mess with you anymore after that.
Y'know, bite people at random. Refuse to wear clothes. Speak only Korean for a week. Masturbate in public. Talk to the bars on my cell. If you're too unpredictable to mess with, no one will mess with you. Or I could be sent to psychiatric, but IM said we'd never get out, and I assume that includes medical?

sometimes this can backfire

for instance, what if the prison gangs notice you because of your "toughness" and then basically try to force you to join them (which then gets you involved in pointless stabbings missions back and forth)?

Sounds less like real prison more like the GTA missions.

[Ifreann]

sometimes this can backfire

for instance, what if the prison gangs notice you because of your "toughness" and then basically try to force you to join them (which then gets you involved in pointless stabbings missions back and forth)?

Sounds less like real prison more like the GTA missions.

No part of this is like a real prison.

[Heloin]

Sounds less like real prison more like the GTA missions.

No part of this is like a real prison.

Touché.

[Infected Mushroom]

Sounds less like real prison more like the GTA missions.

No part of this is like a real prison.

Option 1 would be under conditions more like a real prison (except with substantially higher security)

AKA you have the cell time, the out of cell group exercise/shower routines, meals in the cafeterias etc...

the catch/twist to it is that you're obviously incarcerated with very dangerous people and they have a prejudice against you because of your status as a magic user (and because of the nature of your war crimes)

[Infected Mushroom]

No part of this is like a real prison.

Touché.

what would you say is the biggest difference(s)?

[Infected Mushroom]

Like they'd take me alive...

I dunno. Probably option 1. After all, the war has sapped the world government of its strength and considering how badly a very small percentage of the popukation managed to fuck over the government, they're looking weaker than ever before.

When the revolution proper begins, I want a fighting chance of making it out. In some fancy floating glass bollox they'd probably install some killswitch that floods it with poison gas if the revolutionaries breech the perimiter.

there is no kill switch

the idea is to keep you alive for as long as possible (though with an anticipated reduction in lifespan due to the psychological harm, not so great food, and anti-magic tendencies of the facility)

in fact, they have a statutory duty to treat you if any medical problems arise

the objective is to keep you alive, a kill switch is not necessary

[The Chuck]

Option one. Time to Andy Dufresne this and “Get busy living or get busy dying.”

Hopefully become friends with fellow inmates, take a couple beatings (or a couple dozen) and slowly become acclimated to being around other criminals before eventually establishing myself as just another person stuck in the rock. If I die early, I die early. If I survive, well it wouldn't be so bad...

[Ifreann]

Touché.

what would you say is the biggest difference(s)?

The bit with the dystopian government and the guards who will let you get killed because you're a war criminal.

[The Free Joy State]

what would you say is the biggest difference(s)?

The bit with the dystopian government and the guards who will let you get killed because you're a war criminal.

That, and war criminals actually being in general population.

[Volnaya Territoriya]

Option 2. I already live in a glass box (metaphorically speaking). Loneliness is routine, so rather keep it than enter a place where I will be abused 24/7.