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Postby Kowani » Sun May 26, 2019 4:09 pm

Purpelia wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Why would unemployment cause unrest if we have robots providing for the material needs of the unemployed?

Mostly because the people who have invested billions into developing those robots, building them and buying them have zero interest in handing out the products of their labor for free. It's the same reason why capitalists won't pay us workers more a tiny fraction of the money we actually produce working for them.

It’s almost like the existence of the robots radically changes things and one has to move beyond capitalism!
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Postby Krasny-Volny » Sun May 26, 2019 4:12 pm

Ifreann wrote:Why would unemployment cause unrest if we have robots providing for the material needs of the unemployed?


What about if I like my job? Being able to cover my material needs is nice, but not why I'm in this line of work and certainly not why I invested so much time and money over the years developing my skills.

I'd be pretty pissed off if all that personal investment into a prospective career went down the drain because of automation.
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Postby Ravennog » Sun May 26, 2019 4:18 pm

Hmmmm
Make it into more money
By this I mean I can buy stuff that I can easily profit off of
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Sun May 26, 2019 4:25 pm

I wouldn't have to live hand to mouth, so I could put some money aside for when something catches fire. Also not fall behind on bills and the like anymore. Basically it would vastly improve my quality of life and allow me the freedom to better my position.
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Postby Ifreann » Sun May 26, 2019 4:29 pm

Krasny-Volny wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Why would unemployment cause unrest if we have robots providing for the material needs of the unemployed?


What about if I like my job? Being able to cover my material needs is nice, but not why I'm in this line of work and certainly not why I invested so much time and money over the years developing my skills.

I'd be pretty pissed off if all that personal investment into a prospective career went down the drain because of automation.

If you enjoy the work you do then carry on doing it, by all means. Of course, you wouldn't be able to profit from it in the same way you can now, but it wouldn't be necessary to profit from it. You could do it, whatever it is, just for the enjoyment of doing it.
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Postby Senkaku » Sun May 26, 2019 8:12 pm

I'd like to think I'd save it... but realistically it would probably all get spent on various creature comforts. :p
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Postby Drexel Burnham Lambert » Sun May 26, 2019 8:19 pm

Put it into an index fund every month.

$12k/yr tax free? Holy toledo.
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Postby Slongs » Mon May 27, 2019 12:42 am

I would probably just be saving up some more money :^)
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Postby Petrolheadia » Mon May 27, 2019 6:40 am

Ifreann wrote:
Krasny-Volny wrote:
What about if I like my job? Being able to cover my material needs is nice, but not why I'm in this line of work and certainly not why I invested so much time and money over the years developing my skills.

I'd be pretty pissed off if all that personal investment into a prospective career went down the drain because of automation.

If you enjoy the work you do then carry on doing it, by all means. Of course, you wouldn't be able to profit from it in the same way you can now, but it wouldn't be necessary to profit from it. You could do it, whatever it is, just for the enjoyment of doing it.

What if you wouldn't enjoy your job, but consider your skills wasted and it would be a well-paying one?
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Postby Ifreann » Mon May 27, 2019 6:52 am

Petrolheadia wrote:
Ifreann wrote:If you enjoy the work you do then carry on doing it, by all means. Of course, you wouldn't be able to profit from it in the same way you can now, but it wouldn't be necessary to profit from it. You could do it, whatever it is, just for the enjoyment of doing it.

What if you wouldn't enjoy your job, but consider your skills wasted and it would be a well-paying one?

I imagine you'd get over it eventually. Or maybe you'd live a long and otherwise happy and comfortable life, always slightly miffed that you worked so hard to get ahead in capitalism only for capitalism to be abolished.
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Postby Petrolheadia » Mon May 27, 2019 7:09 am

Ifreann wrote:
Petrolheadia wrote:What if you wouldn't enjoy your job, but consider your skills wasted and it would be a well-paying one?

I imagine you'd get over it eventually. Or maybe you'd live a long and otherwise happy and comfortabkle life, always slightly miffed that you worked so hard to get ahead in capitalism only for capitalism to be abolished.

I wouldn't. I would be unhappy about not having the chance to go investing to reap my rewards, but keep having a mediocre life off the government's teat, with only cars, classic rock and probably some drugs keeping me running, because some losers wanted the money of people like me.
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Postby Ifreann » Mon May 27, 2019 7:13 am

Petrolheadia wrote:
Ifreann wrote:I imagine you'd get over it eventually. Or maybe you'd live a long and otherwise happy and comfortabkle life, always slightly miffed that you worked so hard to get ahead in capitalism only for capitalism to be abolished.

I wouldn't. I would be unhappy about not having the chance to go investing to reap my rewards, but keep having a mediocre life off the government's teat, with only cars, classic rock and probably some drugs keeping me running, because some losers wanted the money of people like me.

Don't worry about it, the therapists will be free too.
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Postby Definitely Not Trumptonium » Mon May 27, 2019 7:13 am

indebt myself with house deposits and rent them out then pay it down for 15 years then retire at 35.

more realistically, a few holidays.

more realistically than that, i would just save it and invest it.

more realistically than that even, i would forget to invest it because i cba to analyse where to put my money so it would just afk in bank until i find a use for it x years in the future.
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Postby Petrolheadia » Mon May 27, 2019 7:16 am

Ifreann wrote:
Petrolheadia wrote:I wouldn't. I would be unhappy about not having the chance to go investing to reap my rewards, but keep having a mediocre life off the government's teat, with only cars, classic rock and probably some drugs keeping me running, because some losers wanted the money of people like me.

Don't worry about it, the therapists will be free too.

Yeah, and they would reinburse me the lost money?
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Postby Ifreann » Mon May 27, 2019 7:18 am

Petrolheadia wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Don't worry about it, the therapists will be free too.

Yeah, and they would reinburse me the lost money?

No.
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Postby Petrolheadia » Mon May 27, 2019 7:27 am

Ifreann wrote:
Petrolheadia wrote:Yeah, and they would reinburse me the lost money?

No.

Exactly.
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Postby Ifreann » Mon May 27, 2019 7:30 am

Petrolheadia wrote:
Ifreann wrote:No.

Exactly.

Because we'll have abolished money. :)
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Mon May 27, 2019 7:30 am

Ifreann wrote:
Petrolheadia wrote:Exactly.

Because we'll have abolished money. :)


How, pray tell, are you going to do that?
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Postby Ifreann » Mon May 27, 2019 7:32 am

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Because we'll have abolished money. :)


How, pray tell, are you going to do that?

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Postby Petrolheadia » Mon May 27, 2019 7:33 am

Ifreann wrote:
Petrolheadia wrote:Exactly.

Because we'll have abolished money. :)

And here goes my only motivation to do anything productive.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Mon May 27, 2019 7:33 am

Ifreann wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
How, pray tell, are you going to do that?

Memes. Memes about communism.


So you're not actually going to abolish money is what you're saying.
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Postby Heloin » Mon May 27, 2019 7:34 am

Move back to Southern Africa.

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Ifreann wrote:Because we'll have abolished money. :)


How, pray tell, are you going to do that?

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Postby Petrolheadia » Mon May 27, 2019 7:37 am

Ifreann wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
How, pray tell, are you going to do that?

Memes. Memes about communism.

I ain't planning to be a manure handler.
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Postby Ifreann » Mon May 27, 2019 7:43 am

Petrolheadia wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Because we'll have abolished money. :)

And here goes my only motivation to do anything productive.

That's fine. The whole idea is that we have ever more advanced automation until we just don't need people to do any labour any more.


Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Memes. Memes about communism.


So you're not actually going to abolish money is what you're saying.

Well I probably won't.
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Postby Petrolheadia » Mon May 27, 2019 7:47 am

Ifreann wrote:
Petrolheadia wrote:And here goes my only motivation to do anything productive.

That's fine. The whole idea is that we have ever more advanced automation until we just don't need people to do any labour any more.

Which makes my life pretty much an useless waste.
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