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Postby Neanderthaland » Mon Jun 10, 2019 11:47 pm

Korhal IVV wrote:
Lady Scylla wrote:Kill himself.

And cause the entire universe to collapse on itself? Nah. Not a good idea.

Umm... the universe isn't Barad-dûr.
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Postby Neutraligon » Tue Jun 11, 2019 12:07 am

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If he can kill himself, is he really God? If he can't, then is he really God?

Christianity proves that not only can God kill himself, but that afterwords he'll never shut up about it.

I mean, sun gods are, as far as I know, dying and rising gods. Considering they manage to do that daily I am rather impressed.
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Postby Hanafuridake » Tue Jun 11, 2019 1:45 am

Korhal IVV wrote:
Lady Scylla wrote:Kill himself.

And cause the entire universe to collapse on itself? Nah. Not a good idea.


If you have evidence that God is what holds the universe together, now would be a good time to share.
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Postby The New California Republic » Tue Jun 11, 2019 4:34 am

Korhal IVV wrote:
Lady Scylla wrote:Kill himself.

And cause the entire universe to collapse on itself? Nah. Not a good idea.

Any evidence that is the case? That the universe can't function just fine in its own without a god? I'll give you some evidence to the contrary: the combined sum total evidence thus far given by the sciences, in all its various branches, has shown that day-to-day functioning of the known universe doesn't need a god holding all the pieces together in order to keep everything ticking over.
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Postby Ifreann » Tue Jun 11, 2019 6:14 am

The Union of the West wrote:"Blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed."

If you need proof, you're missing the point...

I'm not interested in being a good Christian or in receiving blessings, so this admonition that I should just believe without evidence doesn't really stop me from wanting evidence.
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Postby Bombadil » Tue Jun 11, 2019 6:20 am

Ifreann wrote:
The Union of the West wrote:"Blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed."

If you need proof, you're missing the point...

I'm not interested in being a good Christian or in receiving blessings, so this admonition that I should just believe without evidence doesn't really stop me from wanting evidence.


Is this why you don't believe my friend, the Nigerian prince, has left $32M for you?

If you need proof, you're missing the point...
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Postby New Legland » Tue Jun 11, 2019 7:06 am

The Union of the West wrote:"Blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed."

If you need proof, you're missing the point...

Sounds like God doesn't like critical thinking.

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Postby Wunderstrafanstalt » Thu Jun 13, 2019 7:42 pm

The Union of the West wrote:"Blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed."

If you need proof, you're missing the point...

That's correct, but then why haven't I see you in the local mosque?

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Postby Hatterleigh » Fri Jun 14, 2019 4:33 pm

Nothing. I already believe in him.
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Postby Kernen » Fri Jun 14, 2019 7:48 pm

The Union of the West wrote:"Blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed."

If you need proof, you're missing the point...


Faith without evidence is imprudent.
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Postby Free Arabian Nation » Fri Jun 14, 2019 7:58 pm

Judging by this thread, he's doing a pretty bad job at proving himself to others. lol
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Postby Kernen » Fri Jun 14, 2019 8:09 pm

Free Arabian Nation wrote:Judging by this thread, he's doing a pretty bad job at proving himself to others. lol


Wouldn't matter. Plenty of us, even when faced with incontrovertible proof, would still refuse to worship or follow. Worship is demeaning.
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Postby Free Arabian Nation » Fri Jun 14, 2019 8:12 pm

Kernen wrote:
Free Arabian Nation wrote:Judging by this thread, he's doing a pretty bad job at proving himself to others. lol


Wouldn't matter. Plenty of us, even when faced with incontrovertible proof, would still refuse to worship or follow. Worship is demeaning.

True, but this thread is about existence not worship.
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Postby Kernen » Fri Jun 14, 2019 8:16 pm

Free Arabian Nation wrote:
Kernen wrote:
Wouldn't matter. Plenty of us, even when faced with incontrovertible proof, would still refuse to worship or follow. Worship is demeaning.

True, but this thread is about existence not worship.

You're right, but its a pertinent distinction that comes with the territory.
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Postby Korhal IVV » Fri Jun 14, 2019 8:20 pm

Free Arabian Nation wrote:Judging by this thread, he's doing a pretty bad job at proving himself to others. lol

He doesn’t have to.
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Postby Free Arabian Nation » Fri Jun 14, 2019 8:29 pm

Korhal IVV wrote:
Free Arabian Nation wrote:Judging by this thread, he's doing a pretty bad job at proving himself to others. lol

He doesn’t have to.

That's kind of a dick move of him tbh.

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Postby Kernen » Fri Jun 14, 2019 8:30 pm

Korhal IVV wrote:
Free Arabian Nation wrote:Judging by this thread, he's doing a pretty bad job at proving himself to others. lol

He doesn’t have to.


If your god won't prove his existence, we can hardly be faulted for not believing, what with that whole free will thing.

Obeying is another matter entirely.
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Postby The Alma Mater » Fri Jun 14, 2019 9:45 pm

Korhal IVV wrote:
Free Arabian Nation wrote:Judging by this thread, he's doing a pretty bad job at proving himself to others. lol

He doesn’t have to.


So He isn't jealous ?
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Postby Kowani » Sat Jun 15, 2019 11:28 pm

Korhal IVV wrote:
Free Arabian Nation wrote:Judging by this thread, he's doing a pretty bad job at proving himself to others. lol

He doesn’t have to.

By the numbers of souls saved, God’s an absolute failure.
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Postby Neanderthaland » Sat Jun 15, 2019 11:46 pm

Kowani wrote:
Korhal IVV wrote:He doesn’t have to.

By the numbers of souls saved, God’s an absolute failure.

No. You see the whole Christian mythos is just a misunderstanding.

God saves at Baptism and Confirmation, and autosaves at every Mass. If you haven't been to Church for a while, you might lose your progress. But your soul is still saved, just at an earlier checkpoint.
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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Sat Jun 15, 2019 11:56 pm

Idk... this Godperson could start with a divine injunction absolutely and unmistakably against all the bullshit in Leviticus for one...
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Postby Korhal IVV » Sun Jun 16, 2019 12:12 am

Neanderthaland wrote:
Kowani wrote:By the numbers of souls saved, God’s an absolute failure.

No. You see the whole Christian mythos is just a misunderstanding.

God saves at Baptism and Confirmation, and autosaves at every Mass. If you haven't been to Church for a while, you might lose your progress. But your soul is still saved, just at an earlier checkpoint.

You theology is so bad that calling it bad is an insult.
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Postby Neanderthaland » Sun Jun 16, 2019 1:03 am

Korhal IVV wrote:
Neanderthaland wrote:No. You see the whole Christian mythos is just a misunderstanding.

God saves at Baptism and Confirmation, and autosaves at every Mass. If you haven't been to Church for a while, you might lose your progress. But your soul is still saved, just at an earlier checkpoint.

You theology is so bad that calling it bad is an insult.

This from the Calvinist.
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Postby Korhal IVV » Sun Jun 16, 2019 2:03 am

Neanderthaland wrote:
Korhal IVV wrote:You theology is so bad that calling it bad is an insult.

This from the Calvinist.

Says the one with zero theological knowledge
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