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Postby Australian rePublic » Sat May 25, 2019 5:34 am

Vallermoore wrote:To show Himself (or Herself) in the sky to everyone at once at the same time.

And what prevent you from blamming that on aleins... or a hoax?
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Some kind of legit miracle that can’t be explained rationally
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Postby Australian rePublic » Sat May 25, 2019 5:39 am

New Totzka wrote:IMO it would be nearly impossible for a god to prove it's existence. Even if a being could perform miracles that could defy scientific explanation, it wouldn't prove it was a god that we should worship.

So, then, by your own admission, atheism is idiocy, considering that, by your own admission, you would reject all evidence that God gave you for His existence? So then the best you (if you wish to cling onto your atheism) is agnosticism.
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Postby Australian rePublic » Sat May 25, 2019 5:40 am

Dogmeat wrote:God knows.

Cop out
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Postby Duhon » Sat May 25, 2019 5:42 am

Turn us into Tang. Yes, that Tang.

By turning into Tang we forfeit all of the things that make life worth living, but also rid ourselves of the things that make life hell, for others as well as for others.

When one surveys the world it allegedly made, one sees inhumanity welling up from within, one sees inhumanity being perpetrated on those who don't deserve it, one sees inhumanity meted out on those whose worsted visage make empathy impossible. One sees abbreviated joys all too often punctuated by suffering, by death, by needless cruelty, needless, needless suffering.

At least by this final inhumanity we shall be saved.

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Postby Middle Age Zealand » Sat May 25, 2019 5:44 am

complete 3 wishes in a row :clap:

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Postby Hyperion Remnant Fleet » Sat May 25, 2019 5:48 am

Start a YouTube channel on both pottery and doing the Sims gameplay. Intro would be shitty dub-step church organ fusion and it starts with "Wassup Blessed Gang, Yahweh here".
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Postby Australian rePublic » Sat May 25, 2019 5:48 am

Greater vakolicci haven wrote:Give me my sight back.

Wait, that's it? Modern medicine will do that in a few decades. Heck, modern medicine has already done that for a handful of people?
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Postby Australian rePublic » Sat May 25, 2019 5:59 am

Ard al Islam wrote:And to all of you, I wonder why you immediately assumed that I was talking about Muhammad. I was, but he was not the only Messenger. There were others:

Noah
Eber
Salah
Abraham
Lot
Ishmael
Joseph
Jethro
Moses
Elijah
Jonah
Jesus

Unlike Muslims, Judao-Christians don't believe that God wrote the Bible. We believe that the entire thing except the Torah/Pentatuch was written by human. That narrows us down to Moses and Mohammed. And, after that, there are disputes amongst Judao-Christians about whether or not God wrote the Bible Himself. Further, if I'm not mistaking, and I could be, there are some Judao-Christians who doubt the existence of Moses. So that narrows us down to Mohammed
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Postby Australian rePublic » Sat May 25, 2019 6:07 am

Hammer Britannia wrote:
UIJ wrote:OP asked a question, I answered it. What is there to debate?

On whether or not "Reason X" is a good reason to believe in Yahweh

Personally, I think all of the reasons here besides "taking it on faith" is utter bullshit (and even then, I believe that argument is a bit iffy). After all, all evidence for a higher creator does not point to any particular god being right.

Every message needs a message maker, sure let's say that's correct. How does that prove the god of the Jews/Christians? It doesn't, someone could make an equally valid argument for my Gods, Hinduism, Buddhism, Heathenism, Animism, etc.

Any God who actively relieved itself through some kind of show or something would probably leave its signiture on said show. What was your method of proof again?
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Postby Estanglia » Sat May 25, 2019 6:08 am

Australian rePublic wrote:
Dogmeat wrote:God knows.

Cop out


If God is all-knowing, then surely he would know exactly what would be needed to convince us.
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Postby Australian rePublic » Sat May 25, 2019 6:08 am

UIJ wrote:
Hammer Britannia wrote:On whether or not "Reason X" is a good reason to believe in Yahweh

Personally, I think all of the reasons here besides "taking it on faith" is utter bullshit (and even then, I believe that argument is a bit iffy). After all, all evidence for a higher creator does not point to any particular god being right.

Every message needs a message maker, sure let's say that's correct. How does that prove the god of the Jews/Christians? It doesn't, someone could make an equally valid argument for my Gods, Hinduism, Buddhism, Heathenism, Animism, etc.

Again, OP asked a question, I answered it. No one is entitled to a serious debate (let alone a debate in general), as such I have no reason to waste time butting heads with people who are already firm in their beliefs. What is he going to do, cite the bible and faith, while i spew out countless stupid articles? What a waste of time.

Actually, using the Bible in and of itself is an utterly stupid thing to do. Thanks for assuming how I'm going to debate
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Postby Australian rePublic » Sat May 25, 2019 6:09 am

Hammer Britannia wrote:
UIJ wrote:Again, OP asked a question, I answered it. No one is entitled to a serious debate (let alone a debate in general), as such I have no reason to waste time butting heads with people who are already firm in their beliefs. What is he going to do, cite the bible and faith, while i spew out countless stupid articles? What a waste of time.

This is fair enough. Most Christians/Jews/Muslims point to their holy book as evidence for their Gods and you can't really argue against someone who's using a "Totally True" book. *Shrug*

Which once again is stupid, and assuming that I would do so is a false assumption
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Postby Australian rePublic » Sat May 25, 2019 6:10 am

Inkopolitia wrote:I'd have him in front of me in a room full of witnesses. Then, to prove his existence, i'd ask him to make Nintendo release Splatoon 3 (It isn't an actual game yet) using whatever time traveling magic he has

So you'll only believe in God if He creates you freebies?
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Postby The New California Republic » Sat May 25, 2019 6:13 am

Ifreann wrote:I could be convinced that an entity possessed "supernatural" powers by seeing it do verifiably impossible things. I don't think that anything could convince me that that entity is the specific supreme deity of some religion, nor that it created the universe, because I can't think of any evidence that could possibly support such a claim.

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Postby Australian rePublic » Sat May 25, 2019 6:14 am

Inkopolitia wrote:
LiberNovusAmericae wrote:It is a shame that statement still means something to some. Do not ignore your critical thinking skills just because a book tells you to do so.

I mean, if God gave me a copy of Splatoon 3, i'd become a devout christian, no questions asked.

So you fail to believe in God simply because He doesn't give you freebies?
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Postby Australian rePublic » Sat May 25, 2019 6:16 am

Neanderthaland wrote:Presumably an omnipotent God would know exactly what it would have to do to prove itself indisputably to absolutely everyone.

Well considering that everyone has a different answer, there is no one size fits all solution
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Postby Ifreann » Sat May 25, 2019 6:19 am

Neanderthaland wrote:
Galloism wrote:How about if he is able and willing, but there’s a higher priority?

That's usually what I tell ladies when I'm not able or willing.

Not tonight, honey, I need to work on my theodicy or people won't believe that I'm god.


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Australian rePublic wrote:
Inkopolitia wrote:I'd have him in front of me in a room full of witnesses. Then, to prove his existence, i'd ask him to make Nintendo release Splatoon 3 (It isn't an actual game yet) using whatever time traveling magic he has

So you'll only believe in God if He creates you freebies?

Well if I told you that I'm a vampire, wouldn't you insist on seeing me show off my vampire powers before believing me?
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Ifreann wrote:
Australian rePublic wrote:So you'll only believe in God if He creates you freebies?

Well if I told you that I'm a vampire, wouldn't you insist on seeing me show off my vampire powers before believing me?

Yes. Everyone needs to see you suck before they believe you.

;)
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Australian rePublic wrote:
Inkopolitia wrote:I mean, if God gave me a copy of Splatoon 3, i'd become a devout christian, no questions asked.

So you fail to believe in God simply because He doesn't give you freebies?

The question wasn't 'why do you fail to believe in God?", it was "hypothetically, what would a god have to convince you of his existence?". Respect the game.

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The New California Republic wrote:
Ifreann wrote:
Well if I told you that I'm a vampire, wouldn't you insist on seeing me show off my vampire powers before believing me?

Yes. Everyone needs to see you suck before they believe you.

;)

Exactly. No one believe that I suck if they didn't see it for themselves :P
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Postby Brightlake » Sat May 25, 2019 6:31 am

Personally the god or gods are a border of understanding of people in the specific time and condition. I didn't need to be convinced because there are nothing to be convinced. May be in the next 50, 100, 200, or so years the definition of god itself already change according how deep the understanding of the people on the given time.

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Postby Kernen » Sat May 25, 2019 7:02 am

Commit suicide?

Whether god exists or not is ultimately irrelevant to me. I wouldn't worship if he was proved as real any more than the current state of affairs.
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Australian rePublic wrote:
UIJ wrote:Again, OP asked a question, I answered it. No one is entitled to a serious debate (let alone a debate in general), as such I have no reason to waste time butting heads with people who are already firm in their beliefs. What is he going to do, cite the bible and faith, while i spew out countless stupid articles? What a waste of time.

Actually, using the Bible in and of itself is an utterly stupid thing to do. Thanks for assuming how I'm going to debate

Australian rePublic wrote:
Hammer Britannia wrote:This is fair enough. Most Christians/Jews/Muslims point to their holy book as evidence for their Gods and you can't really argue against someone who's using a "Totally True" book. *Shrug*

Which once again is stupid, and assuming that I would do so is a false assumption



I wasn't talking about you Sir, I realize you are a much better debater than that. Sorry for the confusion
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