What would God have to do to convince YOU of His existence?

[Twilight Imperium]

Alternately, I'm willing to be bribed via big tiddy goth gf. Txt me God!

[The Rich Port]

Alternately, I'm willing to be bribed via big tiddy goth gf. Txt me God!

Pretty sure he's keeping them all to himself, or else we would have been blessed with them already.

Only his chosen children, I guess.

[USS Monitor]

"He can reveal it in some way to me" well if that is enough to convince, then you can't dismiss anyone else's experiences of God as false

Let me stop you right there.

Revealing himself to someone else is not the same as revealing himself to me. People can say things that aren't true for a variety of reasons, whether because they are purposely lying or just because they are confused.

If you asked me 2 years ago if a yeti was a real animal, I probably would have said yes without any sense of irony. I don't buy into pseudo-scientific nonsense about cryptids. I don't believe in Nessie pictures and bigfoot sightings. But I somehow completely missed the part where yetis were a mythological creature and not a commonly known species like snow leopards or yaks or whatever. I don't live in the Himalayas, and it just doesn't come up that often. When I did finally realize they were mythical, I was sort of amused and embarrassed that it took so long.

It's worth noting that whoever invented yetis probably thought they were describing a real creature, and of course there are people that totally believe in Nessie or bigfoot.

"People half way round the world would know the world would encounter an experience of someone called 'Yeshua', someone that they've never heard of". There would be very few literate people in the world today who haven't heard of Jesus, and of those few, there would be even fewer whose records would be known to the public (for example, you would have no method of reading my journals). And this is all just assuming that someone would write down these experiences in the first place. Considering in my other thread you dismissed the Muslim guy who had a dream about Jesus telling him that Christianity is the correct faith, and you dismissed it based on the assertion that Muslims have heard of Jesus, then this would eliminate every person literate or illeterate, who has heard of Jesus. And this is before we even consider people who are too afraid to reveal their experiences, because of persecution. "'Yoshua' could have appeared to an ancient person from a litterate society who had never heard of Him"- most ancient people were illerate, despite living in literate societies, and even then, many, many ancient records have been lost, once again, assuming that it was written down in the first place

So why didn't Christian missionaries ever arrive somewhere only to find that the indigenous people were already Christian because they'd discovered Jesus independently? Wouldn't necessarily happen everywhere they went, but you would think it'd happen some places if the word was being spread by divine revelation and not just human teaching.

"He could place 'x' amount of money in my bank account" yes, yes, very funny

Cough it up, big guy.

"'X' culture would believe in a story similar to that of Jesus". Well we already have over 600 flood stories, and they're all dismissed as coincidences, so considering that, why would a, say, South American story of a reserected man born to a virgin not be considered a considence?

Flood myths are NOT dismissed as a coincidence. The most well-known ones originate in the Middle East and they refer to a real event for which there is archaeological evidence. There is no evidence of the Flood affecting other parts of the world, and the stories do not exist or do not follow the same pattern in cultures that have no ties to the Middle East. There are stories about other floods that happened in other parts of the world, but the timing and descriptions do not match the Middle Eastern ones because they are not talking about the same event. For example, China has stories about the Yellow River flooding because the Yellow River floods sometimes, but there's nothing about the timing of the floods of the Yellow River that would link them to Middle Eastern flood myths.

So, given all that, assuming that He exists, what would God have to do to convince you that He exists. What specific action/which specific words would have to take/say in order to convince you, (insert your name here), that He exists?

Just start intervening regularly enough that it can't be dismissed as coincidence. It's not a question of needing to do one specific thing. It's that there needs to be a pattern of events, consistent over a long period. As they used to say in the Great War: once is happenstance, twice is coincidence, three times is enemy action.

[Twilight Imperium]

Alternately, I'm willing to be bribed via big tiddy goth gf. Txt me God!

Pretty sure he's keeping them all to himself, or else we would have been blessed with them already.

Only his chosen children, I guess.

He's God, he can spare one to get a devout follower. Jeez.

[New Totzka]

IMO it would be nearly impossible for a god to prove it's existence. Even if a being could perform miracles that could defy scientific explanation, it wouldn't prove it was a god that we should worship.

[USS Monitor]

IMO it would be nearly impossible for a god to prove it's existence. Even if a being could perform miracles that could defy scientific explanation that wouldn't prove it was a god that we should worship.

It would prove that he existed, even if it didn't prove we should worship him.

[The Rich Port]

Pretty sure he's keeping them all to himself, or else we would have been blessed with them already.

Only his chosen children, I guess.

He's God, he can spare one to get a devout follower. Jeez.

HOW DARE YOU QUESTION YOUR LORD AND SAVIOR, DA TRASHMIN.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6DJswI9pcjE

[LiberNovusAmericae]

IMO it would be nearly impossible for a god to prove it's existence. Even if a being could perform miracles that could defy scientific explanation that wouldn't prove it was a god that we should worship.

It would prove that he existed, even if it didn't prove we should worship him.

Assuming that the being in question matches the descriptions in the bible or the descriptions provided by other religions.

[Twilight Imperium]

It would prove that he existed, even if it didn't prove we should worship him.

Assuming that the being in question matches the descriptions in the bible or the descriptions provided by other religions.

That would be pretty easy to do if you're a giant sky-appearing entity. Also, is the Abrahamic god ever described in the Bible?

[The Rich Port]

It would prove that he existed, even if it didn't prove we should worship him.

Assuming that the being in question matches the descriptions in the bible or the descriptions provided by other religions.

A burning bush

Oh my God. Why is that so funny to me.

Like, holding up a microphone to any burning bush and being like, "Are you God".

[Thermodolia]

Assuming that the being in question matches the descriptions in the bible or the descriptions provided by other religions.

A burning bush

Oh my God. Why is that so funny to me.

Like, holding up a microphone to any burning bush and being like, "Are you God".

Does this mean that forest fires are god?

[LiberNovusAmericae]

Assuming that the being in question matches the descriptions in the bible or the descriptions provided by other religions.

A burning bush

Oh my God. Why is that so funny to me.

Like, holding up a microphone to any burning bush and being like, "Are you God".

I don't believe in god or any deity, so if you want to horse around with a burning bush, I doubt it would be a worthwhile investment of time.

[The Brytish Isles]

A burning bush

Oh my God. Why is that so funny to me.

Like, holding up a microphone to any burning bush and being like, "Are you God".

Does this mean that forest fires are god?

Clearly the Lord of Light is the one, true god.

[Dogmeat]

God knows.

[Happsborough]

How can he convince me of something I already believe in/know?

[Twilight Imperium]

How can he convince me of something I already believe in/know?

You tell us It's the thread topic, after all. Maybe since you're already convinced, you could think about what it would take to get un convinced?

[Scomagia]

A burning bush

Oh my God. Why is that so funny to me.

Like, holding up a microphone to any burning bush and being like, "Are you God".

I don't believe in god or any deity, so if you want to horse around with a burning bush, I doubt it would be a worthwhile investment of time.

Depends on the bush. Acacia might be worthwhile.

[Autonomous Cleaner Bot Cleaners]

See? Dude insists He isn't falsifiable. Ergo, agnosticism is the correct Biblical position.

To be absolutely fair, that quote doesn't say the Christian god's existence isn't falsifiable, just that you shouldn't try to do it. 'Shall not' versus 'cannot' and all that. He could still be falsifiable, except you might then be smited into next week. (iirc, though, people did test him a few times, and they weren't all immediately killed, so maybe it's one of those 'you can't do this but the penalty is a slap on the wrist' things...)

Well, right. If the Bible represents the will/word of God, then God would appear to want to be non-falsifiable. Ergo, just to make God happy (cause it's nice and/or to remain unsmitten) I should adopt agnosticism.

Of course, I suspect that God's apparent desire to be non-falsifiable has to do with God not really being a God, and not wanting the flock to find out, so, in fact, hard atheism is the more correct choice. But if He's willing to meet me at an agnostic middle ground, then hey, **shrug**

[Tabor-Zion]

Show up and announce his supposed existence? It’s really that simple.
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He did that 2000 years ago

[A m e n r i a]

He could though. He just did so to me last week. Given the unpredictability of the circumstances though, you'd have to ask often enough to experience it yourself. Either that or you have to be so holy you get good stuff without even asking (good stuff as in good for you, not necessarily something you like, so asking for booze is out of the question).

... Which. Again. Proofs. Not Validity.

Do you have PROOF that he did it for you, and that it was indeed an act of God?

I asked for it after reciting several verses of the Quran, and Hadits Shahih kitab Iman 1/37-38.

Show up and announce his supposed existence? It’s really that simple.
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He did that 2000 years ago

Even before and after that. Multiple times.

[Minachia]

Nothing.

[Conserative Morality]

Take me on a grand tour through time and space.

[The Rich Port]

... Which. Again. Proofs. Not Validity.

Do you have PROOF that he did it for you, and that it was indeed an act of God?

I asked for it after reciting several verses of the Quran, and Hadits Shahih kitab Iman 1/37-38.

He did that 2000 years ago

Even before and after that. Multiple times.

And... What did he do, exactly?

And how would whatever happened be proven to be otherwise than a coincidence?

[Hammer Britannia]

I'm already religious, but for me to be convinced of his existence I would probably have to go through a long journey of faith similar to the one I went through.

But my problem with God isn't his existence/lack thereof, it's his hypocrisy. My gods are not moral, hell, they're pretty fucking amoral. But this "Yahweh" guy acts a lot like some of the worse of my gods. He doesn't rape anybody, granted, but he still has sanctioned it. Everything else is also checked off.

Self-Servent and Jealous, Check
Murders, Check
Causes unborn babies to die, Check
Sends people he doesn't like to be burned in an eternal lake of fire, Check
Sanctions Rape, Check
Caused mass genocide, Check
And those are the ones I can think off the top of my head.

Yet he calls himself Omnibenevolent, in the sense that he is more moral than man. If anything, he's just as bad as Satan (who is also a douche, for the record).

Now, of course, if the bible isn't meant to be taken literally this changes everything. You go from an angry and vindictive god to a truly loving one, but if you don't take the bible seriously your religion becomes little more than a bunch of incohesive men and women who loosely believe in the same god, meaning that power structures wouldn't exist. And given the power of the Church, we can't have that now, can we?

[Kuominwave]

As far as I know, truth doesn't need worshippers, punishments/rewards, etc. All it needs is evidence, which in my opinion is something all religions lack.