Homeless shelters in US may soon be able to deny transgender

[Gagium]

1. No, letting same sex homeless shelters discriminate against those who claim to be of a different sex than they were at birth doesn't kill people
2. ...Did you know that homeless shelters that...aren't same-sex ones exist?

Alrighty then though.

Tell that first one to Jennifer Gale, a trans woman who was found DEAD in freezing temperatures on the sidewalk next to a homeless shelter that wouldn't take her in because she was trans.

..And historically, segregation was rampant in the south. This is 2019 though, correct?

I'd like to see a source from the past decade that shows that these groups did so until Obama's policy was enacted, or would do so upon its rollback.

jennifer gale died in 2008

Just saw this...2008 was more than a decade ago though. The Salvation Army apparently would've allowed her into the shelter if she would be grouped with men, which when faced with death certainly seems like an option...right?

The Salvation Army apparently had a policy of non-discrimination at the time, and the group apparently did 'what they can to accommodate all homeless people, regardless of gender status although they do have to adjust accommodations to particular circumstances':

https://www.austinchronicle.com/daily/n ... 19/718507/

I wouldn't attribute her death to the fault of any homeless shelter nor discrimination. And despite this being before Obama's policy that Trump wants to roll back, it turns out that people aren't complete monsters who want to kill homeless trans people. Odd, isn't it?

[Kowani]

Same-sex means same-sex. They should have though about that before transitioning.

Yes, that’s reasonable. “How will this affect me if I become homeless!”
Bullshit.

[Risastorstein]

Yes, that’s reasonable. “How will this affect me if I become homeless!”
Bullshit.

Yes transitioning means being discriminated in many cases (bathrooms, competitions, homeless shelters). They had the choice to transition or not.

[Mettaton-EX]

The Salvation Army apparently had a policy of non-discrimination at the time, and the group apparently did 'what they can to accommodate all homeless people, regardless of gender status although they do have to adjust accommodations to particular circumstances':

https://www.austinchronicle.com/daily/n ... 19/718507/

I wouldn't attribute her death to the fault of any homeless shelter nor discrimination. And despite this being before Obama's policy that Trump wants to roll back, it turns out that people aren't complete monsters who want to kill homeless trans people. Odd, isn't it?

ah, the old "well, the murderer says he didn't do it, i guess i have no choice but to believe him" argument

[Kowani]

Yes, that’s reasonable. “How will this affect me if I become homeless!”
Bullshit.

Yes transitioning means being discriminated in many cases (bathrooms, competitions, homeless shelters). They had the choice to transition or not.

You are aware of how gender dysphoria works, no?

[Risastorstein]

You are aware of how gender dysphoria works, no?

Doesn't change the sex though. It's same-sex shelters, isn't it?

[Mettaton-EX]

You are aware of how gender dysphoria works, no?

Doesn't change the sex though. It's same-sex shelters, isn't it?

define sex

[Necroghastia]

You are aware of how gender dysphoria works, no?

Doesn't change the sex though. It's same-sex shelters, isn't it?

(Image)

An old image, obviously, but unfortunately still relevant.

[Nakena]

You are aware of how gender dysphoria works, no?

Doesn't change the sex though. It's same-sex shelters, isn't it?

Then it would depends on the genitals.

In question of doubt they have to do the grabbing.

I feel generally though this is more of a schoolyard topic, weren't it be so damn serious for those affected.

[Gagium]

The Salvation Army apparently had a policy of non-discrimination at the time, and the group apparently did 'what they can to accommodate all homeless people, regardless of gender status although they do have to adjust accommodations to particular circumstances':

https://www.austinchronicle.com/daily/n ... 19/718507/

I wouldn't attribute her death to the fault of any homeless shelter nor discrimination. And despite this being before Obama's policy that Trump wants to roll back, it turns out that people aren't complete monsters who want to kill homeless trans people. Odd, isn't it?

ah, the old "well, the murderer says he didn't do it, i guess i have no choice but to believe him" argument

...Except that they aren't murderers.

[Risastorstein]

define sex

Oh please, not another "biological sex doesn't exist" debate.

According to the Wiktionary: "A category into which sexually-reproducing organisms are divided on the basis of their reproductive roles in their species."

[Risastorstein]

(Image)

An old image, obviously, but unfortunately still relevant.

Again, they should have thought about it before transitioning.

[Vassenor]

define sex

Oh please, not another "biological sex doesn't exist" debate.

According to the Wiktionary: "A category into which sexually-reproducing organisms are divided on the basis of their reproductive roles in their species."

Sorry was there a point you were trying to make here?

[Mettaton-EX]

define sex

Oh please, not another "biological sex doesn't exist" debate.

According to the Wiktionary: "A category into which sexually-reproducing organisms are divided on the basis of their reproductive roles in their species."

you see, actual biologists define sex by a fairly wide variety of characteristics, most of which are medically trivial to change

[Mettaton-EX]

ah, the old "well, the murderer says he didn't do it, i guess i have no choice but to believe him" argument

...Except that they aren't murderers.

i don't think jennifer gale would agree

[Risastorstein]

you see, actual biologists define sex by a fairly wide variety of characteristics, most of which are medically trivial to change

Hmmm, no? If you produce big gametes, you're female. If you produce small gametes, you're male.

[Necroghastia]

(Image)

An old image, obviously, but unfortunately still relevant.

Again, they should have thought about it before transitioning.

Do try to actually address the argument rather than stuffing your fingers in your ears and repeating the same thing ad nauseum. Do you honestly believe putting the man on the bottom into a women-only shelter would cause less disruption and confusion? Same for the woman on top, in a men-only shelter?

[Vassenor]

(Image)

An old image, obviously, but unfortunately still relevant.

Again, they should have thought about it before transitioning.

Thought about what?

[Risastorstein]

Sorry was there a point you were trying to make here?

It's same-sex, not same-gender. And honestly, if I was a homeless woman (a category which is very vulnerable to sexual assault) I would not want to live with strangers with penises.

[Mettaton-EX]

you see, actual biologists define sex by a fairly wide variety of characteristics, most of which are medically trivial to change

Hmmm, no? If you produce big gametes, you're female. If you produce small gametes, you're male.

yes, that's the middle school definition. not the one used by actual biologists.

[Risastorstein]

Thought about what?

That transitioning will put them in incongruous situations.

[Necroghastia]

Sorry was there a point you were trying to make here?

It's same-sex, not same-gender. And honestly, if I was a homeless woman (a category which is very vulnerable to sexual assault) I would not want to live with strangers with penises.

Hm? I thought we were talking about homeless shelters, not nudist resorts.

[Risastorstein]

yes, that's the middle school definition. not the one used by actual biologists.

No, actual biologists use this definition too. I don't know where you read it wasn't the case, but I'm pretty sure it was not in an actual scientific document.

[Necroghastia]

you see, actual biologists define sex by a fairly wide variety of characteristics, most of which are medically trivial to change

Hmmm, no? If you produce big gametes, you're female. If you produce small gametes, you're male.

Ah, so infertile people don't exist.

[Wallenburg]

1. No, letting same sex homeless shelters discriminate against those who claim to be of a different sex than they were at birth doesn't kill people
2. ...Did you know that homeless shelters that...aren't same-sex ones exist?

Alrighty then though.

Tell that first one to Jennifer Gale, a trans woman who was found DEAD in freezing temperatures on the sidewalk next to a homeless shelter that wouldn't take her in because she was trans.

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