Homeless shelters in US may soon be able to deny transgender

[Beggnig]

I'm certain that you can find some studies challenging the article instead of throwing around genetic fallacies.

Beacuse of there vast financhal ties to the right and there own idological bias there is no way that there research was not allready made invald by there confermation biais.

Sticking your fingers in your ears is quite hilarious.
It's an argument made from a series of sources that are not from the Foundation itself such as Obama administration memos.

[Sebenica]

This is a stupid move to be honest. Homeless shelters are meant to be there for all the homeless.

But I'm just waiting for that one person to defend this by whipping out the "but men would identify as a woman to get into women's shelters so they can abuse them" comment.

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

Beacuse of there vast financhal ties to the right and there own idological bias there is no way that there research was not allready made invald by there confermation biais.

Sticking your fingers in your ears is quite hilarious.
It's an argument made from a series of sources that are not from the Foundation itself such as Obama administration memos.

There interpretation of zed sources may be based on faulty logic motevated by saying things that keep there right wing donors happy.


Also here is that counter study.

[New Excalibus]

2016: "We're going to build a wall, and make the Mexicans pay for it."

2019: "screw trans people, amirite?"

[Jack Thomas Lang]

Beacuse of there vast financhal ties to the right and there own idological bias there is no way that there research was not allready made invald by there confermation biais.

Good Lord, this is a classic genetic fallacy. I don't throw out the studies of progressive and green institutions and professors willy-nilly just because I disagree with their politics.

[Gagium]

Homeless shelters are meant to be there for all the homeless.

....You realize that this would only allow same-sex homeless shelters to discriminate against trans, and even then it's not as if most homeless shelters even will end up discriminating, right? "Homeless shelters are meant to be there for all the homeless"

[-Astoria]

Oof, that's quite a blow.

[Auze]

Sorry, fake tits and some makeup dont make you a woman! Nor does pumping your body full of unnatural levels of hormones! Better luck next time

If they want to live there life as a woman, then they can.

Not the governments place to juge. If the government has no place in the bedroom it has no place in the bathroom.

The average public restroom is a lot more public than the average bedroom...
Also, Stock images with an under written claim that they are trans doesn't prove anything. This debate is pretty much irrelevant to me, homeless shelter rule is still stupid, and sex segregation in them even more so.

Edit: to clarify, I am against this bill and didn't and don't care about anything on the bathroom one.

[Vassenor]

They should have mental health evaluations, get treatment and then get acceptance. Ez

Why would only transgender people need these? Why not everyone?

Where did anyone say that?

[Wallenburg]

Homeless shelters are meant to be there for all the homeless.

....You realize that this would only allow same-sex homeless shelters to discriminate against trans, and even then it's not as if most homeless shelters even will end up discriminating, right? "Homeless shelters are meant to be there for all the homeless"

"Slightly fewer trans people will die than you initially thought! Doesn't that mean this is actually a good thing?"

[Grenartia]

>heritage fondation

Right wing think tank sause. Not a good pasta.

It's got a green check mark.

That's just your internet brower's anti-virus addon telling you it's safe for your computer. It doesn't say anything about the validity of the content and whether or not its safe for your brain.

[Grenartia]

Beacuse of there vast financhal ties to the right and there own idological bias there is no way that there research was not allready made invald by there confermation biais.

Sticking your fingers in your ears is quite hilarious.
It's an argument made from a series of sources that are not from the Foundation itself such as Obama administration memos.

Except no. Because the only "studies" that said transition is ineffective are the ones that were funded by the same types of people behind the Heritage Foundation. Basically like how the only studies that don't say cigarettes are harmful (or are *less* harmful than thought) are ones funded by Big Tobacco.

[Mettaton-EX]

>heritage fondation

Right wing think tank sause. Not a good pasta.

I'm certain that you can find some studies challenging the article instead of throwing around genetic fallacies.

The Heritage Foundation...don't make me laugh.

the actual research, of course, tells rather a different story

[Cappuccina]

In the end this shouldn't even be a debate about the "arguments" against transexuality, but the fact that the government is abandoning people, kicking people who are already down and with nowhere to fucking go, little or nothing to eat, and perhaps unemployed as well. Where's that fucking "MAGA" shit now? How is America reclaiming her glory by neglecting her own?

This isn't nationalism, this is pretty pandering. Where are those Christian mores the Republicans talk up?

[Wallenburg]

In the end this shouldn't even be a debate about the "arguments" against transexuality, but the fact that the government is abandoning people, kicking people who are already down and with nowhere to fucking go, little or nothing to eat, and perhaps unemployed as well. Where's that fucking "MAGA" shit now? How is America reclaiming her glory by neglecting her own?

This isn't nationalism, this is pretty pandering. Where are those Christian mores the Republicans talk up?

MAGA only applies to non-Hispanic white cishet conservative Christians. The rest aren't real Americans, as far as Trump's administration is concerned.

[Aclion]

It's got a green check mark.

That's just your internet brower's anti-virus addon telling you it's safe for your computer. It doesn't say anything about the validity of the content and whether or not its safe for your brain.

Nope.

[Grenartia]

Homeless shelters are meant to be there for all the homeless.

....You realize that this would only allow same-sex homeless shelters to discriminate against trans, and even then it's not as if most homeless shelters even will end up discriminating, right? "Homeless shelters are meant to be there for all the homeless"

Actually, most homeless shelters are run by groups (such as the Salvation Army, despite their recent PR improvement attempts) that have historically thrown trans women out on the street (even in freezing temps), or forced them into accommodations with men, etc.

[Mettaton-EX]

That's just your internet brower's anti-virus addon telling you it's safe for your computer. It doesn't say anything about the validity of the content and whether or not its safe for your brain.

Nope.

literally the first google result for "newsguard reliability" is about them marking the daily mail as reliable

[Grenartia]

That's just your internet brower's anti-virus addon telling you it's safe for your computer. It doesn't say anything about the validity of the content and whether or not its safe for your brain.

Nope.

None of that appears on my browser. And I'm not sure that information is very accurate.

[Kowani]

....You realize that this would only allow same-sex homeless shelters to discriminate against trans, and even then it's not as if most homeless shelters even will end up discriminating, right? "Homeless shelters are meant to be there for all the homeless"

Actually, most homeless shelters are run by groups (such as the Salvation Army, despite their recent PR improvement attempts) that have historically thrown trans women out on the street (even in freezing temps), or forced them into accommodations with men, etc.

Surprise, surprise, the SA sucks.

[Gagium]

....You realize that this would only allow same-sex homeless shelters to discriminate against trans, and even then it's not as if most homeless shelters even will end up discriminating, right? "Homeless shelters are meant to be there for all the homeless"

"Slightly fewer trans people will die than you initially thought! Doesn't that mean this is actually a good thing?"

1. No, letting same sex homeless shelters discriminate against those who claim to be of a different sex than they were at birth doesn't kill people
2. ...Did you know that homeless shelters that...aren't same-sex ones exist?

Alrighty then though.

[Grenartia]

"Slightly fewer trans people will die than you initially thought! Doesn't that mean this is actually a good thing?"

1. No, letting same sex homeless shelters discriminate against those who claim to be of a different sex than they were at birth doesn't kill people
2. ...Did you know that homeless shelters that...aren't same-sex ones exist?

Alrighty then though.

Tell that first one to Jennifer Gale, a trans woman who was found DEAD in freezing temperatures on the sidewalk next to a homeless shelter that wouldn't take her in because she was trans.

[Gagium]

....You realize that this would only allow same-sex homeless shelters to discriminate against trans, and even then it's not as if most homeless shelters even will end up discriminating, right? "Homeless shelters are meant to be there for all the homeless"

Actually, most homeless shelters are run by groups (such as the Salvation Army, despite their recent PR improvement attempts) that have historically thrown trans women out on the street (even in freezing temps), or forced them into accommodations with men, etc.

..And historically, segregation was rampant in the south. This is 2019 though, correct?

I'd like to see a source from the past decade that shows that these groups did so until Obama's policy was enacted, or would do so upon its rollback.

[Mettaton-EX]

Actually, most homeless shelters are run by groups (such as the Salvation Army, despite their recent PR improvement attempts) that have historically thrown trans women out on the street (even in freezing temps), or forced them into accommodations with men, etc.

..And historically, segregation was rampant in the south. This is 2019 though, correct?

I'd like to see a source from the past decade that shows that these groups did so until Obama's policy was enacted, or would do so upon its rollback.

jennifer gale died in 2008

[Risastorstein]

Same-sex means same-sex. They should have thought about that before transitioning.