Dutch Minister resigns over misleading refugee crime stats

[HC Eredivisie]

Well you shouldnt do that.

Also covering up such a small number from a population group is just... stupid imo

Why is it stupid? If you make a top 10 such a small number will not appear, which is what was warned for. It was still listed in the full report I guess. I feel listing them separately would also be unfair.

[The Blaatschapen]

The Dutch don't build Reichs anyway.

The Dutch are all about building Dykes instead.

The Dutch don't build Reichs anyway.

You build rijks.

The rijk behind the dijk
(pronounced ryke and dyke)

[The Huskar Social Union]

The Dutch are all about building Dykes instead.

You build rijks.

The rijk behind the dijk
(pronounced ryke and dyke)

Damn the Lesbians are really stepping up their game.

Well you shouldnt do that.

Also covering up such a small number from a population group is just... stupid imo

Why is it stupid? If you make a top 10 such a small number will not appear, which is what was warned for. It was still listed in the full report I guess. I feel listing them separately would also be unfair.

I meant in the sense that of all the numbers to cover up, you cover up such a small amount. Didnt really seem worth it like

[The Blaatschapen]

The rijk behind the dijk
(pronounced ryke and dyke)

Damn the Lesbians are really stepping up their game.

We should conquer Mytilene to get the Rijk going

[Danubia-Slavia]

Damn the Lesbians are really stepping up their game.

We should conquer Mytilene to get the Rijk going

Why stop there? WE GOTTA AIM HIGHER

[HC Eredivisie]

Why is it stupid? If you make a top 10 such a small number will not appear, which is what was warned for. It was still listed in the full report I guess. I feel listing them separately would also be unfair.

I meant in the sense that of all the numbers to cover up, you cover up such a small amount. Didnt really seem worth it like

Ah yes. I don't think it's a cover up, it's just something that happens when you make a list like that. Probably just a numbers guy who didn't think it through when he got the task ('Hey, sort this in a top 10 and send it to me'').

[Saiwania]

Immigration is a good thing as long as you literally don't let waves of people overpopulate your country and allow terrorists to throw bombs into your streets.

That is precisely the problem with today's immigration in my view. Most of the developed nations are letting people in which are from countries which are too poor or are no good in my mind. The immigration that happens now isn't at all how 19th century immigration to the US was. At least then Europeans were being let into a country that already had a European majority.

[The Huskar Social Union]

I meant in the sense that of all the numbers to cover up, you cover up such a small amount. Didnt really seem worth it like

Ah yes. I don't think it's a cover up, it's just something that happens when you make a list like that. Probably just a numbers guy who didn't think it through when he got the task ('Hey, sort this in a top 10 and send it to me'').

Hmm probably.

[Danubia-Slavia]

Immigration is a good thing as long as you literally don't let waves of people overpopulate your country and allow terrorists to throw bombs into your streets.

That is precisely the problem with today's immigration in my view. Most of the developed nations are letting people in which are from countries which are too poor or are no good in my mind. The immigration that happens now isn't at all how 19th century immigration to the US was. At least then Europeans were being let into a country that already had a European majority.

Yes, I completely agree with you there. Today's immigration isn't even immigration anymore, it's just opening your borders to literally everyone. And whenever someone doesn't like open borders everyone is like: "OMG tHiS bIgOt HaTeS bRoWn PeOpLe!!! Why? BECAUSE HE DOESN'T LIKE OPEN BORDERRRRRRS!"

Everyone just needs to calm down, take a chill pill, and debate things like actual adults. People are just too extreme with policies nowadays, and it's not only about immigration.

[Aclion]

It won't bring about the return of a Reich that I want, but it is in the right direction if people wake up to the fact that multiculturalist immigration is no good for them or their country. It is something to be reversed or undone in due time.

The Dutch don't build Reichs anyway.

*laughs in congo*

It won't bring about the return of a Reich that I want, but it is in the right direction if people wake up to the fact that multiculturalist immigration is no good for them or their country. It is something to be reversed or undone in due time.

I would be fine if the people enacting the policies gave a shit about how it affected the people already living there but they don't. They just want easy votes and cheap labor.

[The Blaatschapen]

The Dutch don't build Reichs anyway.

*laughs in congo*

It won't bring about the return of a Reich that I want, but it is in the right direction if people wake up to the fact that multiculturalist immigration is no good for them or their country. It is something to be reversed or undone in due time.

I would be fine if the people enacting the policies gave a shit about how it affected the people already living there but they don't. They just want easy votes and cheap labor.

You missed the joke.

Also, congo is more famous for the Belgians...

[Petrolheadia]

>> when you feel the need to cover up 76 sex crimes from 103,000 people

Jesus, how pathetic can you get?

It's not a small number. It's over 12 times the global homicide rate.

At one crime per person, 76/103000 is about one criminal in a town of 1350 people.

[Danubia-Slavia]

The Dutch don't build Reichs anyway.

*laughs in congo*

It won't bring about the return of a Reich that I want, but it is in the right direction if people wake up to the fact that multiculturalist immigration is no good for them or their country. It is something to be reversed or undone in due time.

I would be fine if the people enacting the policies gave a shit about how it affected the people already living there but they don't. They just want easy votes and cheap labor.

Totally agree, I like helping others around the world as much as the next guy, but your fellow countrymen come first. Especially if you hold a leadership position in said country.

Also, pretty sure it was Belgium who colonized the Congo

[Aclion]

Immigration is a good thing as long as you literally don't let waves of people overpopulate your country and allow terrorists to throw bombs into your streets.

That is precisely the problem with today's immigration in my view. Most of the developed nations are letting people in which are from countries which are too poor or are no good in my mind. The immigration that happens now isn't at all how 19th century immigration to the US was. At least then Europeans were being let into a country that already had a European majority.

The difference wasn't that they were European but that the structure of american society fundamentally changed the early 20th century.

*laughs in congo*

You missed the joke.

Also, congo is more famous for the Belgians...

Fuck you're right. I got my "nice countries with seriously dark history" mixed up.

*laughs in Lenape*

[Conserative Morality]

It's not a small number. It's over 12 times the global homicide rate.

At one crime per person, 76/103000 is about one criminal in a town of 1350 people.

Global homicide rate is 7.6 homicides per 100,000 people. There were 31 *accusations* of murder. Not convictions, accusations. Assuming every accusation is true, it's 5 times, not 12. I can't find statistics on their sexual assault rate, but the accused rape rate for the refugees (4) is lowered than the actual rape rate (7.1) of the Netherlands at large.

[Petrolheadia]

It's not a small number. It's over 12 times the global homicide rate.

At one crime per person, 76/103000 is about one criminal in a town of 1350 people.

Global homicide rate is 7.6 homicides per 100,000 people. There were 31 *accusations* of murder. Not convictions, accusations. Assuming every accusation is true, it's 5 times, not 12. I can't find statistics on their sexual assault rate, but the accused rape rate for the refugees (4) is lowered than the actual rape rate (7.1) of the Netherlands at large.

I found the rate at 6.2, and meant the fraction as a whole, not the homicide fraction.

[Herrebrugh]

Well you shouldnt do that.

Also covering up such a small number from a population group is just... stupid imo

Why is it stupid? If you make a top 10 such a small number will not appear, which is what was warned for. It was still listed in the full report I guess. I feel listing them separately would also be unfair.

Agreed. Can't believe someone'd actually quit over this, makes me think Harbers must've hated his job.

With how rapidly Safety and Justice is burning through leadership positions, I guess we'll all get our turn eventually

[The Blaatschapen]

Why is it stupid? If you make a top 10 such a small number will not appear, which is what was warned for. It was still listed in the full report I guess. I feel listing them separately would also be unfair.

Agreed. Can't believe someone'd actually quit over this, makes me think Harbers must've hated his job.

With how rapidly Safety and Justice is burning through leadership positions, I guess we'll all get our turn eventually

The secretary is a VVDer, and the minister is a CDAer.

No way I am going to do that

[Herrebrugh]

Agreed. Can't believe someone'd actually quit over this, makes me think Harbers must've hated his job.

With how rapidly Safety and Justice is burning through leadership positions, I guess we'll all get our turn eventually

The secretary is a VVDer, and the minister is a CDAer.

No way I am going to do that

I'm aware the guy is a VVDer (though I wouldn't have pegged Grapperhaus as not a VVDer; I've not really been keeping up with politics, anyway). Are you saying he quit because he's in the VVD? (because that does seem to be the trend )

[Pope Joan]

The truth shall make you free.

Even if you do not like hearing it

[The Blaatschapen]

The secretary is a VVDer, and the minister is a CDAer.

No way I am going to do that

I'm aware the guy is a VVDer (though I wouldn't have pegged Grapperhaus as not a VVDer; I've not really been keeping up with politics, anyway). Are you saying he quit because he's in the VVD? (because that does seem to be the trend )

No, I am implying that I wouldn't get a turn because I'm not going to be a member of one of those parties.

[Herrebrugh]

I'm aware the guy is a VVDer (though I wouldn't have pegged Grapperhaus as not a VVDer; I've not really been keeping up with politics, anyway). Are you saying he quit because he's in the VVD? (because that does seem to be the trend )

No, I am implying that I wouldn't get a turn because I'm not going to be a member of one of those parties.

There's no infinite supply of VVDers, though

[Novus America]

Can you imagine living in a country where a prominent politician resigns over misleading people?

Must be nice.

Fair point.
If this was common practice why do we have any politicians at all?

[Novus America]

It won't bring about the return of a Reich that I want, but it is in the right direction if people wake up to the fact that multiculturalist immigration is no good for them or their country. It is something to be reversed or undone in due time.

I mean, I do think forced multiculturalism is bad, but a bit of multiculturalism isn't that bad when done fine. I just think the far-left isn't doing a very good job at it. Multiculturalism takes time and patience, and doesn't work everywhere. We just have to find the right balance of accepting others and preserving our own ways of life.

Oh! And actually regulating our borders and background checking people would also be a totally common sense thing to do. Immigration is a good thing as long as you literally don't let waves of people overpopulate your country and allow terrorists to throw bombs into your streets.

Such a moderate sensible approach is pure heresy in modern western politics. You will get pilloried by both sides.

[The Blaatschapen]

No, I am implying that I wouldn't get a turn because I'm not going to be a member of one of those parties.

There's no infinite supply of VVDers, though

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