NASA

[Risottia]

Canada and Greenland are much more likely to work with ESA.

The CSA's closest working relationship is with NASA.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_ ... ber_states
Canada

Since 1 January 1979, Canada has had the special status of a Cooperating State within ESA. By virtue of this accord, the Canadian Space Agency takes part in ESA's deliberative bodies and decision-making and also in ESA's programmes and activities. Canadian firms can bid for and receive contracts to work on programmes. The accord has a provision ensuring a fair industrial return to Canada.[37] The most recent Cooperation Agreement was signed on 2010-12-15 with a term extending to 2020.[38][39] For 2014, Canada's annual assessed contribution to the ESA general budget was €6,059,449 (CAD$8,559,050).[40] For 2017, Canada has increased its annual contribution to €21,600,000 (CAD$30,000,000).[41]

Remind me: how much did Canada pay to NASA in 2017? How many votes does CSA get at the NASA board?

[Saiwania]

This is just an endless money pit that NASA wants to justify a budget increase. There's nothing to be had on the moon. The actual result of a colonization effort? A repeat of Franklin's lost expedition, the loss of the HMS Terror and Erebus. Only worse because the people going into space won't have any means of getting back to Earth if they don't have the means to make a return trip for whatever reason. They'll want to get home in less than a week if not a month.

[Washington Resistance Army]

There's nothing to be had on the moon.

Would it kill you to ever try and read into a topic before posting about it?

[-Ocelot-]

This is just an endless money pit that NASA wants to justify a budget increase. There's nothing to be had on the moon. The actual result of a colonization effort? A repeat of Franklin's lost expedition, the loss of the HMS Terror and Erebus. Only worse because the people going into space won't have any means of getting back to Earth if they don't have the means to make a return trip for whatever reason. They'll want to get home in less than a week if not a month.

I'm European but I hope they get a good budget increase. Their budget has actually shrank if you adjust for inflation. NASA has offered us so many things indirectly it's amazing. And the moon project is going to help us get to mars. Minerals found in asteroids alone are worth trillions, based on current prices.

Very sad to see someone expressing such a defeatist and regressive attitude.

[Sapientia Et Bellum]

I dont think food and recources would be an issue if we keep developing reusable rocket technology... Its only about a three day trip to get to the moon so we could ver easily just transport food in the initial stages of the program which will be much less costpy with the use of reusable rockets... Hell, NASA could contract agencies like SpaceX to do supply missions to the settlements

[Sapientia Et Bellum]

This is just an endless money pit that NASA wants to justify a budget increase. There's nothing to be had on the moon.

The point is to learn how to survive in conditions beyond earth so that we will be more prepared for trips to Mars and beyond... The moon is like the training wheels to the eventual colonization of the solar system and galaxy by the human race

Also, it would be extremely easy to get people from the settlment on the moon back to earth... We have literally already done it... We have put 12 men on the moon and all of them have returned back to earth without major issues.... I wouldnt be suprised if the settlment has a rotating set of astronauts such as the ISS

[Napkizemlja]

The CSA's closest working relationship is with NASA.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_ ... ber_states
Canada

Since 1 January 1979, Canada has had the special status of a Cooperating State within ESA. By virtue of this accord, the Canadian Space Agency takes part in ESA's deliberative bodies and decision-making and also in ESA's programmes and activities. Canadian firms can bid for and receive contracts to work on programmes. The accord has a provision ensuring a fair industrial return to Canada.[37] The most recent Cooperation Agreement was signed on 2010-12-15 with a term extending to 2020.[38][39] For 2014, Canada's annual assessed contribution to the ESA general budget was €6,059,449 (CAD$8,559,050).[40] For 2017, Canada has increased its annual contribution to €21,600,000 (CAD$30,000,000).[41]

Remind me: how much did Canada pay to NASA in 2017? How many votes does CSA get at the NASA board?

I am aware of Canada's privileged position regarding the ESA, but that doesn't really change the fact that our closest working relationship is still with NASA, given that most of the CSA's foreign facilities are in the US to work alongside NASA and that most of the CSA's international collaborative projects have been with NASA. The next three international projects, iirc, are all with NASA. We have been collaborating with the Americans in regards to space activities since the 1950's. Which is unsurprising given that they are our closest partner in almost all other areas.

[Napkizemlja]

Oh and I forgot of course that the Americans invited Canada to partake in this very Lunar mission that the OP is about. Specifically in regards to developing robotics systems for NASA.

[Ifreann]

This is just an endless money pit that NASA wants to justify a budget increase. There's nothing to be had on the moon.

The Moon is rich in Helium-3, more so than Earth, which has potential as a fuel source.

The actual result of a colonization effort? A repeat of Franklin's lost expedition, the loss of the HMS Terror and Erebus. Only worse because the people going into space won't have any means of getting back to Earth if they don't have the means to make a return trip for whatever reason. They'll want to get home in less than a week if not a month.

Getting back to Earth from the Moon is easier than getting to the Moon.

[Zrhajan]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vl6jn-DdafM
So uh NASA put out this recently and honestly this is probably the biggest thing to happen with space since the Apollo missions. I myself am probably more excited for this than like anything else ever. What do you guys think? Do you think that this type of space exploration is worth the massive risks?

I think you should say what you’re talking about instead of posting a YT link and expecting people to watch it.

I also think NASA should change it’s acronym to North American Space Agency, but oh well.

They definitely shouldn't change their name to that, if only for the simple reason that NASA doesn't just limit itself to spacecraft development, but also work on experiments in aeronautics, including development of electric aircraft.

[Shanhwa]

If we're going with tragic place names from HBO shows, why not just call it Chernobyl.

..because the space ship is the fiery dragon landing to help its masters set up a Space Empire that will last 300 years of constant inbreeding.

So it is foretold.

the Habsburg line has been resurrected

[West Leas Oros 2]

*colonization in progress*

[Nakena]

They should bring back the worm logo. It was lit af.

[Pax Nerdvana]

Sweet! The more space stuff, the better!

[Tetradimensional Overworld]

2020s? That's great, although extraction of lunar resources would only begin in the 2040s...

[Nakena]

2020s? That's great, although extraction of lunar resources would only begin in the 2040s...

It could begin by 2021 if they only wanted.

[Tetradimensional Overworld]

2020s? That's great, although extraction of lunar resources would only begin in the 2040s...

It could begin by 2021 if they only wanted.

Yeah, they could. Extraction of lunar forces could bring fuel to a future fusion reactor.

[Aclion]

*John Madden intensifies*

It's great seeing America doing these things again. It's a shame our space program has been held back for so long.

This is just an endless money pit that NASA wants to justify a budget increase. There's nothing to be had on the moon. The actual result of a colonization effort? A repeat of Franklin's lost expedition, the loss of the HMS Terror and Erebus. Only worse because the people going into space won't have any means of getting back to Earth if they don't have the means to make a return trip for whatever reason. They'll want to get home in less than a week if not a month.

The moon has helium-3, rare earth metals and precious metals

[Pax Nerdvana]

I'm actually excited. Also, this calls for a song: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hJ4vNol9tTE.

[Luziyca]

It's more likely that Elon Musk will set up a moon base, or that Mars One will actually land on Mars with humans living there than NASA landing on the moon again in five years.

[Donutlia]

Absolutely baloney you cannot colonize moon without oxygen and food

And more importantly, how good of an internet connection can be expected? I want live streams.

[Ifreann]

It's more likely that Elon Musk will set up a moon base, or that Mars One will actually land on Mars with humans living there than NASA landing on the moon again in five years.

Elon will probably get distracted by reinventing something we already ave but with the word "hyper" in there somewhere. Hypertoilets?

[Heloin]

It's more likely that Elon Musk will set up a moon base, or that Mars One will actually land on Mars with humans living there than NASA landing on the moon again in five years.

Elon will probably get distracted by reinventing something we already ave but with the word "hyper" in there somewhere. Hypertoilets?

Or he'll go on twitter and start yelling at people.

[Ifreann]

Elon will probably get distracted by reinventing something we already ave but with the word "hyper" in there somewhere. Hypertoilets?

Or he'll go on twitter and start yelling at people.

I heard he's getting sued for calling that rescue diver a paedo.

[Endem]

Yay! We're going to the moon, I hope it works out for NASA
( about the question from the OP about food )
I guess there will be hydroponics or something, but I'm not a scientist

This is just an endless money pit that NASA wants to justify a budget increase. There's nothing to be had on the moon. The actual result of a colonization effort? A repeat of Franklin's lost expedition, the loss of the HMS Terror and Erebus. Only worse because the people going into space won't have any means of getting back to Earth if they don't have the means to make a return trip for whatever reason. They'll want to get home in less than a week if not a month.

Well, theoretically, there are a lot of valuable materials on the moon like a lot, besides it also benefits space exploration as a whole if we make a permanent moon base, weaker than Earth gravitation + no atmosphere makes it a perfect place for launching ships as of now, we are wasting a lot of fuel and energy on escaping the gravitational prison that is Earth.