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Postby Cekoviu » Tue May 28, 2019 8:57 am

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Cekoviu wrote:My god, now you're sneakily accusing Gauth of being a voyeur? I'd like to think you've hit rock bottom, but there's always more.

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I vaguely remember watching a Backyardigans episode about that back when I was a wee lass. It's very odd that I remember that.
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Postby Gormwood » Tue May 28, 2019 9:00 am

United Muscovite Nations wrote:
Cekoviu wrote:My god, now you're sneakily accusing Gauth of being a voyeur? I'd like to think you've hit rock bottom, but there's always more.

I'm sure you missed Gauth accusing me of the same.

Gormwood wrote:So you'll mandate constant surveillance to make sure married couples are getting it on? How voyeuristic.

You're the one who declared marriages where couples don't fuck should be invalidated. I merely pointed out the only possible way to enforce that without resorting to an Amish honors system. ;)

United Muscovite Nations wrote:They shouldn't, as I said, the marital act should be reserved for marriage, but either way, if you're not having sex, you're not consummating your marriage, and therefore the marriage is invalid.
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Postby Cekoviu » Tue May 28, 2019 9:01 am

United Muscovite Nations wrote:
Cekoviu wrote:My god, now you're sneakily accusing Gauth of being a voyeur? I'd like to think you've hit rock bottom, but there's always more.

I'm sure you missed Gauth accusing me of the same.

Gormwood wrote:So you'll mandate constant surveillance to make sure married couples are getting it on? How voyeuristic.

I didn't actually notice that, but that's not exactly surprising.
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Postby United Muscovite Nations » Tue May 28, 2019 9:03 am

Gormwood wrote:
United Muscovite Nations wrote:I'm sure you missed Gauth accusing me of the same.


You're the one who declared marriages where couples don't fuck should be invalidated. I merely pointed out the only possible way to enforce that without resorting to an Amish honors system. ;)

United Muscovite Nations wrote:They shouldn't, as I said, the marital act should be reserved for marriage, but either way, if you're not having sex, you're not consummating your marriage, and therefore the marriage is invalid.

What's wrong with an honor system?
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Postby Cekoviu » Tue May 28, 2019 9:05 am

United Muscovite Nations wrote:
Gormwood wrote:You're the one who declared marriages where couples don't fuck should be invalidated. I merely pointed out the only possible way to enforce that without resorting to an Amish honors system. ;)


What's wrong with an honor system?

They never work. I'd definitely not be the kind of person to have a sexless marriage, but if I did have one, I wouldn't go and report it to the Sexiness Enforcement BrigadeTM (as wonderful as that sounds).
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Postby Gormwood » Tue May 28, 2019 9:06 am

United Muscovite Nations wrote:
Gormwood wrote:You're the one who declared marriages where couples don't fuck should be invalidated. I merely pointed out the only possible way to enforce that without resorting to an Amish honors system. ;)


What's wrong with an honor system?

You want a law invalidating marriages where couples don't fuck, but want to rely on an honors system to enforce it. Prohibition would have been a lot smoother with you in charge.
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Postby United Muscovite Nations » Tue May 28, 2019 9:07 am

Cekoviu wrote:
United Muscovite Nations wrote:What's wrong with an honor system?

They never work. I'd definitely not be the kind of person to have a sexless marriage, but if I did have one, I wouldn't go and report it to the Sexiness Enforcement BrigadeTM (as wonderful as that sounds).

Which isn't really a problem in this situation because enforcement isn't a huge boon.
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Postby United Muscovite Nations » Tue May 28, 2019 9:07 am

Gormwood wrote:
United Muscovite Nations wrote:What's wrong with an honor system?

You want a law invalidating marriages where couples don't fuck, but want to rely on an honors system to enforce it. Prohibition would have been a lot smoother with you in charge.

Technically I don't want any law.
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Postby Gormwood » Tue May 28, 2019 9:09 am

United Muscovite Nations wrote:
Gormwood wrote:You want a law invalidating marriages where couples don't fuck, but want to rely on an honors system to enforce it. Prohibition would have been a lot smoother with you in charge.

Technically I don't want any law.

So how do you invalidate marriages without a law, going to ask the couple to annull it politely?

:rofl:
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Postby Cekoviu » Tue May 28, 2019 9:11 am

United Muscovite Nations wrote:
Gormwood wrote:You want a law invalidating marriages where couples don't fuck, but want to rely on an honors system to enforce it. Prohibition would have been a lot smoother with you in charge.

Technically I don't want any law.

I mean, yeah? Doesn't really change the point.
United Muscovite Nations wrote:
Cekoviu wrote:They never work. I'd definitely not be the kind of person to have a sexless marriage, but if I did have one, I wouldn't go and report it to the Sexiness Enforcement BrigadeTM (as wonderful as that sounds).

Which isn't really a problem in this situation because enforcement isn't a huge boon.

If sexless marriages are not that big of an issue religiously, you don't want government to exist to enforce sexinessTM, and it doesn't harm anyone, I don't see the point to any sort of rule requiring sex.
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Postby Cekoviu » Tue May 28, 2019 9:11 am

Gormwood wrote:
United Muscovite Nations wrote:Technically I don't want any law.

So how do you invalidate marriages without a law, going to ask the couple to annull it politely?

:rofl:

He's been pretty clear that his beliefs surrounding this subject are religious.
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Postby United Muscovite Nations » Tue May 28, 2019 9:12 am

Gormwood wrote:
United Muscovite Nations wrote:Technically I don't want any law.

So how do you invalidate marriages without a law, going to ask the couple to annull it politely?

:rofl:

Marriage is a purely social contract, you don't need law to enforce rules regulating it, you just need the community to not consider them spouses.
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Postby United Muscovite Nations » Tue May 28, 2019 9:13 am

Cekoviu wrote:
United Muscovite Nations wrote:Technically I don't want any law.

I mean, yeah? Doesn't really change the point.
United Muscovite Nations wrote:Which isn't really a problem in this situation because enforcement isn't a huge boon.

If sexless marriages are not that big of an issue religiously, you don't want government to exist to enforce sexinessTM, and it doesn't harm anyone, I don't see the point to any sort of rule requiring sex.

The principle of the matter.
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Postby Gormwood » Tue May 28, 2019 9:14 am

United Muscovite Nations wrote:
Gormwood wrote:So how do you invalidate marriages without a law, going to ask the couple to annull it politely?

:rofl:

Marriage is a purely social contract, you don't need law to enforce rules regulating it, you just need the community to not consider them spouses.

A social contract with legal and financial advantages codified by law in this country.
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Postby Cekoviu » Tue May 28, 2019 9:14 am

United Muscovite Nations wrote:
Gormwood wrote:So how do you invalidate marriages without a law, going to ask the couple to annull it politely?

:rofl:

Marriage is a purely social contract, you don't need law to enforce rules regulating it, you just need the community to not consider them spouses.

Yeah, and then we get back to the thing where the community is either full of voyeurs or the couple defies all probability and actually reveals that they're sexless to everyone.
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Postby Cekoviu » Tue May 28, 2019 9:16 am

United Muscovite Nations wrote:
Cekoviu wrote:I mean, yeah? Doesn't really change the point.

If sexless marriages are not that big of an issue religiously, you don't want government to exist to enforce sexinessTM, and it doesn't harm anyone, I don't see the point to any sort of rule requiring sex.

The principle of the matter.

If your principles focus on minor issues like asexual people being married, you need to reevaluate your principles.
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Postby United Muscovite Nations » Tue May 28, 2019 9:17 am

Gormwood wrote:
United Muscovite Nations wrote:Marriage is a purely social contract, you don't need law to enforce rules regulating it, you just need the community to not consider them spouses.

A social contract with legal and financial advantages codified by law in this country.

I'm not necessarily talking about in this country or any kind of legal or financial advantages. I'm an agrarian anarchist.
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