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Diopolis wrote:

Kowani wrote:The best way to cure cultural homophobia is through children.

Yes, and it's totally a good idea to spend government money on indoctrinating children in political viewpoints.

Kowani wrote:

Diopolis wrote:Yes, and it's totally a good idea to spend government money on indoctrinating children in political viewpoints.

Imagine thinking we didn’t do that already.

Diopolis wrote:

Kowani wrote:Imagine thinking we didn’t do that already.

That post wasn't sarcasm. I disagree about what viewpoints children should be indoctrinated into, of course.

The Lone Alliance wrote:

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:What? Yes they do indeed create echo chambers but not from reporting facts. By reporting facts they are creating an educated populace who knows how to treat society's ills.

Except they don't always report the facts, some facts mysteriously disappear or aren't reported on, why? Because some facts, if allowed to be promoted would actively increase society's ills.

It's a constant give and take between the media protecting some facts from the public eye, supposedly in the interest of protecting social cohesion, but also because such facts would hurt the ideologies the media sides with. For years the media covered up police violence or at least downgraded it.

For years all these little facts would slip through the cracks and no one would ever report on it, but now with alternative media those pesky facts find an audience, usually a tainted audience that only deliver the facts that support their ideology.

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:Alternative media just says things to give there audience confirmation bias and push there ideology slowly more and more extreme.

The regular media does that too, in fact all media does that, we're still dealing with Confirmation bias related fallout from the Mueller report not giving the media what their audience wanted.

Napkizemlja wrote:To balance it out Arthur should have an episode that is anti-SSM. I'm sure if NY or Cali refused to air that episode, OP would likewise be against it.

Diopolis wrote:

Kowani wrote:The best way to cure cultural homophobia is through children.

Yes, and it's totally a good idea to spend government money on indoctrinating children in political viewpoints.

Khataiy wrote:I support the Government of Alabama, its a kids show.

Necroghastia wrote:

Khataiy wrote:I support the Government of Alabama, its a kids show.

There's no content in the episode that is remotely inappropriate for children, though.

Khataiy wrote:

Necroghastia wrote:
There's no content in the episode that is remotely inappropriate for children, though.

I wouldn't want my children watching it

Khataiy wrote:

Necroghastia wrote:
There's no content in the episode that is remotely inappropriate for children, though.

I wouldn't want my children watching it

Khataiy wrote:I support the Government of Alabama, its a kids show.

Conserative Morality wrote:

Khataiy wrote:I wouldn't want my children watching it

Lots of people used to not want their kids seeing interracial relationships on TV either. Times change.

Khataiy wrote:

Conserative Morality wrote:Lots of people used to not want their kids seeing interracial relationships on TV either. Times change.

The difference is one directly contradicts my religion from which I base my moral values I want my children to likewise have, homosexuality is a sin and directly condemned by God, not only in Islam but in a lot of religions as well. Interracial relationships are not condemned in Islam or most religions either so this is nowhere near an equal comparison.

Khataiy wrote:The difference is one directly contradicts my religion from which I base my moral values I want my children to likewise have, homosexuality is a sin and directly condemned by God, not only in Islam but in a lot of religions as well. Interracial relationships are not condemned in Islam or most religions either so this is nowhere near an equal comparison.

Conserative Morality wrote:

Khataiy wrote:The difference is one directly contradicts my religion from which I base my moral values I want my children to likewise have, homosexuality is a sin and directly condemned by God, not only in Islam but in a lot of religions as well. Interracial relationships are not condemned in Islam or most religions either so this is nowhere near an equal comparison.

It absolutely is. Many, arguably the vast majority of, US Christians used to regard interracial relationships as banned by their religion. Mormons can't drink caffeine; should pop and hot cocoa be banned from kids shows? Should bacon be banned from kids shows to satisfy the religious sensibilities of Jews and Muslims? It's all nonsense. Do you think that kids are going to be blind to homosexuality when you pass a gay couple downtown? When a prominent actress marries her girlfriend? When the VP in a decade is happily married to his husband? Or are you going to argue that those things should be banned from where the kids can see them too?

Dogmeat wrote:

Khataiy wrote:The difference is one directly contradicts my religion from which I base my moral values I want my children to likewise have, homosexuality is a sin and directly condemned by God, not only in Islam but in a lot of religions as well. Interracial relationships are not condemned in Islam or most religions either so this is nowhere near an equal comparison.

Are there religions that condemn interracial marriage? Yes.
Is that a good reason when they do? No.

Your point is moot.

Conserative Morality wrote:

Khataiy wrote:The difference is one directly contradicts my religion from which I base my moral values I want my children to likewise have, homosexuality is a sin and directly condemned by God, not only in Islam but in a lot of religions as well. Interracial relationships are not condemned in Islam or most religions either so this is nowhere near an equal comparison.

It absolutely is. Many, arguably the vast majority of, US Christians used to regard interracial relationships as banned by their religion. Mormons can't drink caffeine; should pop and hot cocoa be banned from kids shows? Should bacon be banned from kids shows to satisfy the religious sensibilities of Jews and Muslims? It's all nonsense. Do you think that kids are going to be blind to homosexuality when you pass a gay couple downtown? When a prominent actress marries her girlfriend? When the VP in a decade is happily married to his husband? Or are you going to argue that those things should be banned from where the kids can see them too?

Khataiy wrote:I know my children would be exposed to homosexuality in the public, I do not want it endorsed, supported or sugarcoated. I want it to be known it is a sin and wrong and that God has condemned it.

Conserative Morality wrote:

Khataiy wrote:I know my children would be exposed to homosexuality in the public, I do not want it endorsed, supported or sugarcoated. I want it to be known it is a sin and wrong and that God has condemned it.

You're out of luck; the US is a secular nation.

Khataiy wrote:

Conserative Morality wrote:Lots of people used to not want their kids seeing interracial relationships on TV either. Times change.

The difference is one directly contradicts my religion from which I base my moral values I want my children to likewise have, homosexuality is a sin and directly condemned by God, not only in Islam but in a lot of religions as well. Interracial relationships are not condemned in Islam or most religions either so this is nowhere near an equal comparison.

Andsed wrote:

Khataiy wrote:The difference is one directly contradicts my religion from which I base my moral values I want my children to likewise have, homosexuality is a sin and directly condemned by God, not only in Islam but in a lot of religions as well. Interracial relationships are not condemned in Islam or most religions either so this is nowhere near an equal comparison.

So this is just basically clinging on to old outdated borderline idiotic beliefs that homosexuality is wrong? Got it.

Andsed wrote:

Khataiy wrote:The difference is one directly contradicts my religion from which I base my moral values I want my children to likewise have, homosexuality is a sin and directly condemned by God, not only in Islam but in a lot of religions as well. Interracial relationships are not condemned in Islam or most religions either so this is nowhere near an equal comparison.

So this is just basically clinging on to old outdated borderline idiotic beliefs that homosexuality is wrong? Got it.

Khataiy wrote:

Andsed wrote:So this is just basically clinging on to old outdated borderline idiotic beliefs that homosexuality is wrong? Got it.

Its not idiotic nor outdated what was wrong yesterday is wrong today, with your logic in 100 years from now is it okay to justify murder, rape or anything else? I mean look at AIDS and other STDs and how they affect homosexuals and drug addicts its clear God is punishing these acts.

Andsed wrote:

Khataiy wrote:Its not idiotic nor outdated what was wrong yesterday is wrong today, with your logic in 100 years from now is it okay to justify murder, rape or anything else? I mean look at AIDS and other STDs and how they affect homosexuals and drug addicts its clear God is punishing these acts.

1. Okay let me rephrase this. There is no logical basis for homosexuality being wrong. The idea of that is just some old relic people have sadly not given up.

2. And no AIDS and STDs do not prove jack shit about the morality of homosexuality. They affect homosexuals because of biology not god punishing them. Beside if your god does punish homosexuality he is an asshole.